#1348966 - 05/18/09 10:55 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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"Professor"
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
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Just wait until they have eaten all of the rodents, birds,and smaller reptiles. When they get hungry they will leave.
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#1349098 - 05/19/09 12:56 AM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: warrior]
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trapper
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Georgia
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Leave them alone! They are of more benefit to you where they are!!! Adios, 45/70, RKBA!
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#1349156 - 05/19/09 05:28 AM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: 45/70]
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trapper
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Western Michigan
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Find out where they are entering and put a one way door there.
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#1349782 - 05/19/09 06:16 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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trapper
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Georgia
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If you are "dead" set on killing them (glue boards), why not simply catch them, and release them out in the woods or a good friend's barn.
Once more, let me see if I understand you: you know they are benificial, but you are going to kill them any way. What kind of conservationist and trapper are you?
A couple of small children? So what? How small? My children and grandchildren were handling snakes at 2 years old (or younger). They quickly learned to identify what they could and could not pick up.
Friends? If they are really friends, they will understand that the Kings are killing rodents in and around your home on a regular basis the year 'round, and they MIGHT see a couple of Kings that, if you have done your job, they know are harmless, but they won't see any rats or mice running around your pantry, or rodent droppings all over your kitchen counter.
As for the snakes being drawn to the cricket sounds, snakes can't hear. As the younguns say, "Duh!".
Anything you do but kill them is way better than killing them, and is testimonial to your practices as a conservationist. Man, trapping is, among other things, the conservative harvest of wildlife, and the protection of other wildlife. Conservation of wildlife is one of the great, primary arguments that supports our actiivity.
I don't give a tinker's dam what you call yourself, but you are not a trapper if you destroy these Kings. Don't represent yourself as one!
WAUGH! 45/70, RKBA!
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#1349789 - 05/19/09 06:18 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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"Professor"
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
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Arkansasbowhunte- I doubt that they are King snakes (Genus Lampropeltis). I suspect that they are Rat Snakes (Genus Elaphe). I further doubt that crickets will be a very effective bait. Snakes don't hear sounds transmitted through the air. A caged mouse, mouse bedding, a recently used English sparrow nest, freshly laid eggs(un-washed), etc., I believe, would be a more effective bait. A funnel type minnow trap works well ; if the snake isn't too large. http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1245210/Re_First_snake_call.html#Post1245210 Please keep us posted on the outcome.
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#1349791 - 05/19/09 06:19 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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trapper
Registered: 03/24/08
Loc: Eastern, NC, USA
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Snakes are primarily deaf, they can feel vibrations but can't really hear all that well. Now put a mouse in the center of a couple glue boards and you should have two captured snakes next time you take a look. Also find out where they are getting and out at and put up a one way device to keep them out as was mentioned earlier. Then seal all openings the snakes were using to gain access to your attic.
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#1349812 - 05/19/09 06:42 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: 45/70]
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"Professor"
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
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45/70- I am sure that you know that snakes are easily released from glue traps using vegetable oil. In fact, I just "released" my dog from a glue trap with a little bit of PAM (olive oil) this morning. I have captured many snakes and lizards with glue traps. All were released, unharmed, using PAM. I usually keep a spray can in the truck.
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#1349828 - 05/19/09 06:52 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: LAtrapper]
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trapper
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Georgia
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If LaTrapper's and jhennys suspicions are correct, it doesen't change the facts. Crickets are not going to produce vibes the snakes will pick up on.
If they are Corn Snakes (red rat snakes), pert nigh the same difference as far as their presence being constructive in you house. You still ain't going to see rat droppings in your food storage and prep areas.
Later, 45/70, RKBA!
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#1350274 - 05/19/09 10:55 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Georgia
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#1352217 - 05/21/09 01:41 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: 45/70]
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trapper
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: MN
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Iwould just leave them bee also.
Few things tick me off as much as rodent damage to my stuff or finding mouse turds on the counter where I prepare my food.
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#1352573 - 05/21/09 06:20 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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trapper
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Syracuse,Utica-Rome,Madison,On...
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Arkansasbowhunte,Are you referring to the DR.T Snake a way? That's naphtha flakes and a organic I think? bob evans
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#1353641 - 05/22/09 08:25 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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Registered: 03/28/07
Loc: Gainesville, Alachua, Florida,...
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Arkansasbowhunter- Very little success is often gained by any use of deterrents. Moth balls are more of an urban legend then the answer. As a professional, many of us either require a specific license to use a chemical and or have to follow the labeling on a product anyway. Mothballs are not labeled for snakes, birds,bats or most anything anyway. They are labeled for Moths they seem to be more of a deterrent to me then any other critter. If you don't want to have snakes try working on modifying the habitat. 1. Remove all the places that they can hide from their own predators. 2. Keep grass short. Maybe re-evaluate your landscaping. 3. Erect fence barriers including below the surface 8-12 inches. 4. Eliminate the food source and they will leave. They probably are present because of a local food supply rodents, fish, birds nest etc. Snakes are in your attic for a reason! For more info, see my notes at http://snakeremovals.com/
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#1353672 - 05/22/09 08:59 PM
Re: King Snake Help
[Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
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"Professor"
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
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Arkansasbowhunte- One of the most common ingredients of moth balls is Naphthalene. Mothball are not labeled for use on anything except moths. Naphthalene is flammable and strong concentrations are hazardous to health. Naphthalene is one of the active ingredients of Snake-A Way. The Snake-A Way label can be found here- http://www.allpest.com/labels/snakeawaylabel.pdf Snake-A-Way MSDS can be found here- http://www.allpest.com/labels/snakeawaymsds.pdf .I have not found Snake-A Way to be very effective.
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