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#1348912 - 05/18/09 10:19 PM Snake- King Snake Help
Arkansasbowhunte Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 438
Loc: Arkansas
Hey guys I have a King Snake in my attic. Well actually I have 2 of them. Any suggestions on how to get them dudes out of there.

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#1348966 - 05/18/09 10:55 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
LAtrapper Offline

"Professor"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2300
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
Just wait until they have eaten all of the rodents, birds,and smaller reptiles. When they get hungry they will leave.
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#1348978 - 05/18/09 11:01 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: LAtrapper]
warrior Offline
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Registered: 01/28/07
Posts: 2774
Loc: Georgia
Ron, in that case only one will leave. wink
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#1349098 - 05/19/09 12:56 AM Re: King Snake Help [Re: warrior]
45/70 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3847
Loc: Georgia
Leave them alone! They are of more benefit to you where they are!!!
Adios,
45/70,
RKBA!

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#1349156 - 05/19/09 05:28 AM Re: King Snake Help [Re: 45/70]
Animals Only Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1716
Loc: Western Michigan
Find out where they are entering and put a one way door there.
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#1349700 - 05/19/09 05:22 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Animals Only]
Arkansasbowhunte Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 438
Loc: Arkansas
I know they are beneficial but I have 2 small children and friends to deal with. I have not seen them only been told about them. Others have seen them with tails hanging out of the rafters and seen 2 snakes together. Neighbor guys says he thought they were mating the other day when he seen em. I think I am gonna try about a dozen of them glue traps. I have thought long and hard. I will get a cricket cage fill it up with a bunch of crickets and place traps around it. Surely the chirping of the crickets will draw the unwanted house guest in for a closer look.

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#1349782 - 05/19/09 06:16 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
45/70 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3847
Loc: Georgia
If you are "dead" set on killing them (glue boards), why not simply catch them, and release them out in the woods or a good friend's barn.

Once more, let me see if I understand you: you know they are benificial, but you are going to kill them any way. What kind of conservationist and trapper are you?

A couple of small children? So what? How small? My children and grandchildren were handling snakes at 2 years old (or younger). They quickly learned to identify what they could and could not pick up.

Friends? If they are really friends, they will understand that the Kings are killing rodents in and around your home on a regular basis the year 'round, and they MIGHT see a couple of Kings that, if you have done your job, they know are harmless, but they won't see any rats or mice running around your pantry, or rodent droppings all over your kitchen counter.

As for the snakes being drawn to the cricket sounds, snakes can't hear. As the younguns say, "Duh!".

Anything you do but kill them is way better than killing them, and is testimonial to your practices as a conservationist.
Man, trapping is, among other things, the conservative harvest
of wildlife, and the protection of other wildlife. Conservation of wildlife is one of the great, primary arguments that supports
our actiivity.

I don't give a tinker's dam what you call yourself, but you are not a trapper if you destroy these Kings. Don't represent yourself as one!

WAUGH!
45/70,
RKBA!

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#1349789 - 05/19/09 06:18 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
LAtrapper Offline

"Professor"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2300
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
Arkansasbowhunte-
I doubt that they are King snakes (Genus Lampropeltis). I suspect that they are Rat Snakes (Genus Elaphe). I further doubt that crickets will be a very effective bait. Snakes don't hear sounds transmitted through the air. A caged mouse, mouse bedding, a recently used English sparrow nest, freshly laid eggs(un-washed), etc., I believe, would be a more effective bait. A funnel type minnow trap works well ; if the snake isn't too large. http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1245210/Re_First_snake_call.html#Post1245210

Please keep us posted on the outcome.
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#1349791 - 05/19/09 06:19 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
jhenney Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 56
Loc: Eastern, NC, USA
Snakes are primarily deaf, they can feel vibrations but can't really hear all that well. Now put a mouse in the center of a couple glue boards and you should have two captured snakes next time you take a look. Also find out where they are getting and out at and put up a one way device to keep them out as was mentioned earlier. Then seal all openings the snakes were using to gain access to your attic.
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#1349812 - 05/19/09 06:42 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: 45/70]
LAtrapper Offline

"Professor"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2300
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
45/70-
I am sure that you know that snakes are easily released from glue traps using vegetable oil. In fact, I just "released" my dog from a glue trap with a little bit of PAM (olive oil) this morning. I have captured many snakes and lizards with glue traps. All were released, unharmed, using PAM. I usually keep a spray can in the truck.
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#1349828 - 05/19/09 06:52 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: LAtrapper]
45/70 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3847
Loc: Georgia
If LaTrapper's and jhennys suspicions are correct, it doesen't change the facts. Crickets are not going to produce vibes the snakes will pick up on.

If they are Corn Snakes (red rat snakes), pert nigh the same difference as far as their presence being constructive in you house. You still ain't going to see rat droppings in your food storage and prep areas.

Later,
45/70,
RKBA!

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#1350168 - 05/19/09 10:01 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: 45/70]
Arkansasbowhunte Offline
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Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 438
Loc: Arkansas
45/70 DO YOU ALWAYS ATTACK SOMEONE VERBALLY ON THESE BOARDS. I guess I misundestood the purpose of this board which was to help others out.

I NEVER once posted that I was going to DISPATCH the snakes. I am very aware they are beneficial and planned to release them some distance from the house. What I asked for was help "getting them dudes out". I am also very aware animals can be RELEASED using vegetable oil on the glue boards which evidently you weren't. Secondly I live in a populated area and not in the country so, any snake should be in my young girls minds dangerous. I don't condone any youngster getting close enough to a snake for fear that they could misjudge it and the snake be one of the venemous copperheads, timber rattle snakes, or cottomouths that dwell our area.

SO NEXT TIME YOU TRY AND BELITTLE SOMEONE ON HERE READ THE POST!!!

ENOUGH SAID!!

After closer inspection of the premises today I found about a 5 foot shed snake skin brown in color. It appears to be a rat snake as LATrapper stated. I have had some small field mice working my bird seed in my shed and attic and I suspect this is what they have been after. I sealed the seed up in a 5 gallon bucket and put out some rodent control out in the attic and along the edge of my shed. I couldn't find any particular place where they were coming and going to put the glue boards. Time will tell if this helps discourage their appearance.

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#1350263 - 05/19/09 10:48 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
Paul Dobbins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 7537
Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
Dang 45/70, who peed in your cheerios? You don't need to be so cranky.
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#1350274 - 05/19/09 10:55 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Paul Dobbins]
45/70 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3847
Loc: Georgia
OK, Paul,
45/70,

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#1352217 - 05/21/09 01:41 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: 45/70]
foxtail Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3771
Loc: MN
Iwould just leave them bee also.

Few things tick me off as much as rodent damage to my stuff or finding mouse turds on the counter where I prepare my food.
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#1352399 - 05/21/09 03:56 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: foxtail]
Arkansasbowhunte Offline
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Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 438
Loc: Arkansas
Anyone heard or used moth balls as snake detourants?

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#1352573 - 05/21/09 06:20 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
Bob Evans,-CWCP Offline
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Arkansasbowhunte,Are you referring to the DR.T Snake a way?
That's naphtha flakes and a organic I think?
bob evans
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#1353593 - 05/22/09 07:08 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Bob Evans,-CWCP]
Arkansasbowhunte Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 438
Loc: Arkansas
Bob,

I don't know bob, I was hoping someone here knew. I heard once that moth balls would work as detourants.

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#1353641 - 05/22/09 08:25 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
Robb Russell Offline


Registered: 03/28/07
Posts: 1875
Loc: Gainesville, Alachua, Florida,...
Arkansasbowhunter-

Very little success is often gained by any use of deterrents. Moth balls are more of an urban legend then the answer.

As a professional, many of us either require a specific license to use a chemical and or have to follow the labeling on a product anyway. Mothballs are not labeled for snakes, birds,bats or most anything anyway. They are labeled for Moths they seem to be more of a deterrent to me then any other critter.

If you don't want to have snakes try working on modifying the habitat.

1. Remove all the places that they can hide from their own predators.

2. Keep grass short. Maybe re-evaluate your landscaping.

3. Erect fence barriers including below the surface 8-12 inches.

4. Eliminate the food source and they will leave. They probably are present because of a local food supply rodents, fish, birds nest etc. Snakes are in your attic for a reason!

For more info, see my notes at http://snakeremovals.com/

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#1353672 - 05/22/09 08:59 PM Re: King Snake Help [Re: Arkansasbowhunte]
LAtrapper Offline

"Professor"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2300
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
Arkansasbowhunte-
One of the most common ingredients of moth balls is Naphthalene. Mothball are not labeled for use on anything except moths. Naphthalene is flammable and strong concentrations are hazardous to health. Naphthalene is one of the active ingredients of Snake-A Way. The Snake-A Way label can be found here- http://www.allpest.com/labels/snakeawaylabel.pdf
Snake-A-Way MSDS can be found here- http://www.allpest.com/labels/snakeawaymsds.pdf .I have not found Snake-A Way to be very effective.
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