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#127445 - 03/08/07 03:14 PM 'Barkstone' Castors
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15418
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Last year around this time i caught a beaver with massive sized hard as a rock castor's, first time id ever seen this. Some on here said they were barkstone castors. Today i caught two adult females in the same mudhole, BOTH had these in them though one was much bigger than the other. When removing those the outer 'skin' for lack of a better word over the castor's tore off as it was paper thin. The middle castor set is that one, same thing happened on one castor on the other one, top castor's are normal sized, also from a female at the same location, though she wasn't in a family way like the other two were.

What cause's this besides diet? As im not convinced diet alone does it. Number 2 Bridger trap for size comparison.



Edited by Jtrapper (03/08/07 03:15 PM)
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#127456 - 03/08/07 03:18 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
DanielE Offline
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 5066
Loc: Eastern NC
Cool J. How do they smell??

I thought barkstone was regular castor that had been dried forever and a day?

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#127466 - 03/08/07 03:21 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: DanielE]
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15418
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
They STINK Daniel, lol. Strong musky castory type odor, kind of a mix between beaver pee hair off a coyote rump and castor mixed into it, lol.

I posted a set of these last year i think it was and someone on here called them barkstone castor's, whether that's what a barkstone is or not i have no idea. I just know ive seen my share of castor's and those last year were the only set id seen before, now ive got two beaver side by side with them and don't know what cause's it.

Both of these were in poor shape, they are going a long ways over land to get food, basically skinny female beaver's in the family way which is odd, they should be puffed up big as basketball's!
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#127469 - 03/08/07 03:23 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
DanielE Offline
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Loc: Eastern NC
LOL!!! Awesome description!

I knew you had to smell them!

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#127538 - 03/08/07 03:48 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: DanielE]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2001
Loc: Lakeland,Minnesota
Jackie,I have found small pieces inside of castors before,but never the entire thing.
Bet their heart was also hard as a rock.
Tom
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#127543 - 03/08/07 03:51 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Bogmaster]
DanielE Offline
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Come to think of it....I did find some "odd" castors once...

Mine weren't hard as a rock, but like hard taffy, and smelled different. I figured they were no good and tossed them.

Silly me...probably the greatest beaver lure that ever existed....LOL \:D

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#127551 - 03/08/07 03:54 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: DanielE]
CedarRivrTrappr Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1595
Loc: St. Ansgar, Iowa
I remember your post last year about these as well.
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#127579 - 03/08/07 04:06 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: CedarRivrTrappr]
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15418
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
You saying they had 'hardening of the arterys' as my grand paw use to call it Tom? lol.
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#127597 - 03/08/07 04:13 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
Hal Offline
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"Barkstone" is just an archaic term for castors. If you could read, you would find the "barkstone" reference in the old mountainman transcriptions and the like. It doesn't really have anything to do with the consistency. I too have caught beaver with "hard spots" in the castor sack, but never the whole thing like that.

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#127621 - 03/08/07 04:27 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Hal]
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
I can't remember right off but im thinking those last year weighed over 16 oz. each!

Why do i need to read when i can have you do it for me? lmao.
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#127841 - 03/08/07 06:40 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
KYBOY Offline
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Loc: East, Kentucky
I caught several this year that looked like they were full of gravel. Not like j's but just full of little rock hard "pebbles" for a lack of a better term.
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#127855 - 03/08/07 06:51 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
ccruse318 Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 13
Loc: Louisiana
Were these beaver feeding on pine trees . I have caught several in piney woods hard like that,just not as big.

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#127890 - 03/08/07 07:12 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: ccruse318]
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15418
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Yes they are in pines but don't see any sign of them chewing on them, mostly walking through the pine thicket to get to some privet hedge.

Will see what takes place in the coming days, got a feeling may be too many beaver in this place, over populated in other words. The one i got last year though wasnt anywhere near any pines and had good habitat so not sure if pines are linked into this or not.

Just curious what cause's this.
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#127996 - 03/08/07 08:11 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
dcampbell Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1947
Loc: livingston Tx
i dont know what causes it but i do believe you have found the cure. LOL

i trap in heavy pine thickets and i have seen some hard castors but not like those boys.

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#128049 - 03/08/07 08:35 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: dcampbell]
curley-1 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: south central missouri
gall stones or kidney stones.??..lol
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#128105 - 03/08/07 09:16 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
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Loc: St Louis, Missouri
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"Barkstone" is just an archaic term for castors. If you could read, you would find the "barkstone" reference in the old mountainman transcriptions and the like.


What he said I picked up the nickname reading some trapping books published in the late 1800's
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#128109 - 03/08/07 09:18 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Barkstone]
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15418
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Well i don't believe him about it being archaic or whatever that means!

Ive got it from a good source these are what were called barkstones and worth alot in their hey day.

Wasn't the question i asked anyway but Hal can't read either, i asked what caused this in beaver. lol.
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#128134 - 03/08/07 09:42 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Jtrapper]
Billfrank Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: TEXAS
Originally Posted By: Jtrapper
Wasn't the question i asked anyway but Hal can't read either, i asked what caused this in beaver. lol.


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#128148 - 03/08/07 09:51 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: Billfrank]
KYBOY Offline
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Loc: East, Kentucky
Well whatever causes it or the terminology Thorpe thinks it makes his beaver lure worth 10$ an ounce,LOL
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#128213 - 03/08/07 10:49 PM Re: 'Barkstone' Castors [Re: KYBOY]
Jtrapper Offline


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Posts: 15418
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
10 dollar an ounce lure to catch 4.00 a hide beaver, what a deal lol.
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