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Beaver - Picture and question for the beaver gurus #1265858
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The water is 12 feet deep within inches of the bank. The bank is smooth for about 40 yards aound this picture. The beaver are literally crawling out everywhere.

What kind of set would you make here???????????

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1265859
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Castor mound.


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Castor mound.


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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: ] #1265870
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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: water n my boots] #1265872
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The bank is undercut for the entire length. Strong current and boat traffic is also a problem here.

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1265917
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Just cause we are buddies and all, and I have trapped with you more than a few times, plus I have seen this spot, if I were you, I would just move down the bank 50 yeads and catch the dumb ones on the cross over just east of that castor mound. I fear if you find someone that can tell you a good set for that beaver, you will loose your breeding stock. That is what I would do. I only catch the dumb ones myself.

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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: M. Howard] #1265933
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lol.....I'm tryin' to broaden my horizons here Tony...I've never set a trap here, as you well know. To many easier places close by....but....I was hoping to hear from an experienced beaver trapper on this one. There is a pile of spots like this on the lower line I started this year that don't have all the easy crossovers to set up close by them.

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1265966
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If they are crawling out (and I see cuttings) they are likely hungry and would go for green stick/ food lure. I/d use a shovel to manipulate the bank enough for a trap of choice. If foothold...a long cable drowner (or long rebar drowner) CAN be used here. Have to be careful, however. Or you could try one of those beaver floats (with bait) that has been posted recently.

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Calvin] #1265974
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If their coming out of the water there find a slide and set it, or Dig one yourself in a good area, and put a 330 over it. That's what I'd do. -K.D.


Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Riverman-] #1266041
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the slide is about 40 yards wide. kinda hard to neck that down. the bank is a huge mass of roots with water undercut beneath it. If you cut out a knotch for a foothold, it would have to be set on dry land. Too much wave motion from passing boats to set a 330 in the water.............

Don't want to try the beaver float.....would take up to much room in the boat...

so........?????????

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: ] #1266280
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yep, if i wanted to catch them all, which i wouldn't but if i did id go up stream maybe 20 yards or so, if the water is swift dig or make a slide into the bank at an angle to the water from down stream that way when mr beaver comes out of the swift water he is at an angle and not fighting the current setup with a castor lure on a drowner, or as mr howard states always leave some seed.


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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: leo23] #1266674
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Definately don't want to catch them all.....I'd hate to have to clean them all! lol I've trapped this stretch of river for the last 14 years and I only take a certain amount each year.

I'm just looking for ideas of sets that folks use on these wide open banks......

Some good ideas so far.......

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1266684
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A stick dipped in lure and placed just past a trap will bring them to THAT spot. Use your head to figure out what to do next, lol.


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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Jtrapper] #1266704
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LOL!!!! I hear ya Jtwapper! Jsut looking for that simple, stupid, quaranteed, can't miss, catch em' every time set!

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1266810
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Take a shovel dig an inlet that is about 24inches long and 12inches wide set a 330, foothold, or snare in the length of the inlet. You could then bait it or set a castor mound.

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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: thompson trapper] #1267000
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Snare on the bank

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: red webb] #1267178
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Jsut looking for that simple, stupid, quaranteed, can't miss, catch em' every time set!

After 30 years im still looking for that one too, lol.


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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Jtrapper] #1267264
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exactly what thompson said, as they will use the new crawl out.
put a couple drops of beaver oil on your gloves and slick it up good,it will be all over but the skinning


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Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: wildman 97] #1267491
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Yall are comming up with some good ideas here. Thanks for the input!!!

Hey Jackie.....if ya ever find it, call me!!!lol

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Calvin] #1267705
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Originally Posted By: Calvin
If they are crawling out (and I see cuttings) they are likely hungry and would go for green stick/ food lure. I/d use a shovel to manipulate the bank enough for a trap of choice. If foothold...a long cable drowner (or long rebar drowner) CAN be used here. Have to be careful, however. Or you could try one of those beaver floats (with bait) that has been posted recently.


Eric...I'm certainly not the most accomplished beaver buster on this site but I wonder it Calvin's set wouldn't work with a snare in place of the foothold as some of the others have mentioned?

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Truevine] #1268589
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Steve, Calvins set example could be used with snares or dryland conis, in addition to the footholds. I think the snares would probably be my best bet here. I'll have to set this place up come fall and let yall know how it works.

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1270291
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Try a hoop net on that bluff bank. I catch tons that way and I dont even want them

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: T.Smith] #1270312
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All I do is find where the beaver are coming out of the water, make yourself a castor mound, about the size of a cereal bowl, and use a castor lure. I like pauls Backbreaker. NOW heres where I do a little different then most, Or maybe not. Get yourself some Fresh bait, something nearby peel the bark off so the green and white is showing and place that on your mound or in front and to the sides. This is your Visual attractant in case the wind is not in the beavers favor at the time, but he will spot that fresh bait. Place your 330 right in front of that mound, within a foot or more, and stake and tie your trap off. Make sure you have both sides of the slide or whereever you make this set block the sides, so he doesn't go around. I'll bet you get one first night of doing this as long as it's open water!!!

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I'll put money on it. Make sure he can see that bait, Nothing huge, maybe the diameter of a quarter at the most. Another thing you can do is build your mound and in front of it place a peeled bait stick in front, once he or she investigates, the lure will do the rest. Stake your trap good so he don't knock it over, because some will come charging right in!!! You want that 330 or i've used 280's right in front of that mound, don't be afraid to block and narrow it down...

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One more thing, I would advise setting the trap about 1/2 to 3/4 in the water if it's a real drop off, Get yourself some sticks about the size of a broom handle and shove them directly in the side of the bank, IF IT's as steep as you say, this will support your 330 that is if you are planning on using them. Use two for both sides of the trap. This will keep it stabalized and low enough so he'll get his head through. I've been offsetting my triggers 8 inches state law and getting them around the front shoulders consistently.

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Easy slick up a spot add a castor mound and a snare stake well.


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Originally Posted By: T.Smith
Try a hoop net on that bluff bank. I catch tons that way and I dont even want them


Tracey, that sounds like a heck of a good idea! You gona loan me some?????? cool

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Trappingpred, sounds like some good advice. Thanks for the input!

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Originally Posted By: 1st RiverRat
Easy slick up a spot add a castor mound and a snare stake well.


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One more time to the top in case someone has a tip to share.

Re: Picture and question for the beaver gurus.... [Re: Eric Cottrell] #1274713
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move up or down river to a location easier accessible and higher catch percentage, assuming this is fur trapping. i am not much into that forcing deal like you are describing. big waste of time and almost alwasy can catch same animal a short clip away.

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in this exact spot, moving 50 yards to a better spot is an option......but what would you do if this is the best spot you've got????

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I'd call the smartest trapper I know and say HHHEEELLLPPP!!!

You might know that guy. But I already know he would say "KISS it".


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hard to see exactly what is going on in that situation. if lots of boat traffic with waves, then snares on land or dirt sets up on the bank if legal. if that dont work, likely more trouble than the pelts are worth so move on down the line somewhere.

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Eric, Put up a Tree stand and Wait till Dusk, Pull Both Triggers on your 12ga double... the 18 pellets of Double-0 should do the trick!!!

OH, did you want to Save the Hide? LOL!!! crazy confused crazy


I'd do the fake chanel thing myself, but I'd use a 660, mud mound and a coupld fresh white peel-sticks is all you'd need. Make sure to Cable off that 660, they ain't cheap you know.

And one more thing, don't use that Thumb too much! lol! thought you were suntanning in Mexico?


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Thanks for the tips Scott. I'll send you the hide and you can do the sewing on it! lol

I'm probably gona get me a couple of them 660's before next year, but I won't be using them in spots like this. I do have a few wide channels they would fit in nicely though.

And it's hard to get a suntan down here in Burritoville while working nights! cool

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