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#105854 - 02/23/07 04:48 PM Beaver - chain drowners
idahowildlander Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 137
Loc: idaho
Has anyone tried chain drowners how are they. Are they worth the extra cost?

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#106003 - 02/23/07 06:07 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: idahowildlander]
Bill Kipper Offline
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 375
Loc: Highlandville, Mo.
I dont understand why they are needed. We catch a lot of 50 or 60+ lb. Beaver, and just wire the slide wire to the bag of weight. Never a problem with the right size wire. Looks like extra weight and extra cost for nothing gained to me.
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#106015 - 02/23/07 06:12 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Bill Kipper]
MChewk Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2607
Loc: Northern Illinois
I have used them since the 90s and love them! They are a bit costly at first but after the first season they are paid for. They are heavier than wire/cable but I just got tired of replacing the stuff. I use a 12-15 foot piece of #2 machine chain and if too much just s-hook up to shorten up. Slick!

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#106023 - 02/23/07 06:16 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: MChewk]
Grubstake Offline
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Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 3911
Loc: Lotw MN
yes they work great and last forever, i run chain drowners on some and cable on others, its actually easier to set up the chain drowners, i use quick links to change the lengths and create loops, my locks are homemade, 3 inches of inch and a half pipe with a arm welded to it facing foreward.

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#106075 - 02/23/07 06:42 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Grubstake]
Jim Blakley Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3046
Loc: se. mn... age..62
I use chain drowners for all my water sets,and have for 15 years. the cost is covered by their long life and ease of use.
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#106251 - 02/23/07 08:08 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Jim Blakley]
Canatrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 357
Loc: Big Lake, Minnesota
I have never heard of these? Can some one explain them a little better? Is there a site I can go to to read about them?

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#106257 - 02/23/07 08:13 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Canatrapper]
Grubstake Offline
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Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 3911
Loc: Lotw MN
there is an article on chain drowners in the new ffg

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#106264 - 02/23/07 08:17 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Grubstake]
goatchin Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 855
Loc: Sherburne, New York (Central N...
yeah i read that in ffg-just came a couple day ago. interesting read. I dont have any beaver terr. trap yet but the system looks like a good plan.
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#106285 - 02/23/07 08:32 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: goatchin]
Grubstake Offline
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Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 3911
Loc: Lotw MN
cana, it works just lie a wire or cable drowner but its made with chain, you need a bigger lock of course,

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#106690 - 02/24/07 07:13 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Grubstake]
Tim Bauer Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 712
Loc: central MN
I've built and used them for several years. The best part is I can use the same lock for either chain or my rods. The lock is permanently attached to my trap and I can use whatever drowner I want. I use 2/0 chain that is 10' long, it has a universal swivel at the top for staking and I use a kwik link at the bottom. Tie plates have worked best for weights for me. Here's a pic of my lock.

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#106699 - 02/24/07 07:21 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Tim Bauer]
330-Trapper Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 5152
Loc: Minnesota
Tim, Show one on a Chain with the two end in the photo...

Nice photo!
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#106731 - 02/24/07 07:52 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: 330-Trapper]
Canatrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 357
Loc: Big Lake, Minnesota
I don't think I have ever seen these before. Thanks everyone for explaining this :-)

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#106734 - 02/24/07 07:54 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: 330-Trapper]
Tim Bauer Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 712
Loc: central MN
Here's a pic of the chain set-up. I use this when I can use a drowning rod, chain abd rods are all I use for footholding beaver. It's the quickest way I've ever found and the beaver is always at the bottom.

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#106741 - 02/24/07 08:00 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Tim Bauer]
330-Trapper Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 5152
Loc: Minnesota
PM'd you Tim
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#106743 - 02/24/07 08:02 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Tim Bauer]
Wade Lacey Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1810
Loc: Georgia
Dumb question but were do you guys get these tie plates? Also Mr. Bauer you said that your trap is permanently attatched to the lock. Well on the rod method how does your lock come off the rod when not in use,i see how it comes off the chain but dont get the rod. Thanks


Edited by Butch (02/24/07 08:03 AM)

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#106755 - 02/24/07 08:12 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Wade Lacey]
Tim Bauer Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 712
Loc: central MN
The lock slips over the U shaped end of the rod and there is a stop welded to the bottom end of the rod to prevent the lock from coming of at the bottom. Look at the pic earlier in the post to see the lock on the rod. At an angle it will slip right over the top.
Tie plates can be found along the tracks or if you can find where the railroad is working the guys will sometimes let you grab a bunch. Otherwise you can get em from the scrap yard but they do want a couple of bucks each.

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#106805 - 02/24/07 08:45 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Tim Bauer]
Wade Lacey Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1810
Loc: Georgia
Thanks tim i thought it might slip off the top end of the stake when not in use but was'nt sure. Nice setups. I am assuming it is your lock that MTP sells?

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#106815 - 02/24/07 09:05 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Wade Lacey]
Tim Bauer Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 712
Loc: central MN
yep it is, they are great people to deal with.

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#106974 - 02/24/07 11:42 AM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: Tim Bauer]
330-Trapper Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 5152
Loc: Minnesota
PM'd you again Tim... I'd like them...
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#107212 - 02/24/07 03:25 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: 330-Trapper]
XDawg Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 265
Loc: Milton, WV
Tim Bauer,

is that 1" sq tubing?

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#107298 - 02/24/07 05:07 PM Re: Beaver trappers chain drowners [Re: XDawg]
Tim Bauer Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 712
Loc: central MN
xdawg, it is 1' square tubing

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