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#1039716 - 12/10/08 10:37 AM Dog Proof Coniboxes
Tyler_Irish Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/01/08
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
Right now things are starting to slow down on my line and im trying to lean more towards a 48hr check, to do this i have to have all kill type sets.
In my province we are not allowed to have anything bigger than a 120 on land unless it is dogproof in or above water or 5' off the ground. I am trying mainly to target bobcats and raccoon. Are there many refusals for coon and cats in these dogproof enclosures, the trigger has to set atleast 7 inches from the opening for baited sets and 10" for unscented.
Or should i stick to keeping tehm 5' off the ground.
I dont think a 120 would be very humane for either of these animals, but its what i have to deal with so people can break the law and let there dogs run around. mad

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#1039748 - 12/10/08 11:07 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Tyler_Irish]
mr. finch Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: kansas
to be honest i dont know if there is a truly dog proof coni box.i know people think there is but a baited coni box will take what ever sticks its head in it.what about a lean pole set?that would get your conis up off the ground and allow you to run bigger conis.cats will climb if they want whats up there
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#1039770 - 12/10/08 11:25 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: mr. finch]
possumkiller_63 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/07
Loc: west michigan
this is what I would do - get a pail with a lid cut on side of pail for the springs then cut a opening on top of the lid (small)then put the lid on.

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#1039884 - 12/10/08 12:32 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: possumkiller_63]
martenpine Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: user conflictville Alaska

Tyler Irish, I have a similiar problem as I have a section of line as well as my yard that has lynx but there are also dogs and I have been trying to dogproof some sets. I don't see any way to totally dog proofing them unless you elevate and use a lean pole.

Possumkiller, I can't picture this set could you describe that alittle differant. I use have buckets that are cut and hold 330s for wolverine so I understand that but what are you discribing with the lid?
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#1040088 - 12/10/08 02:11 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: minklessinpa]
martenpine Offline
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Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: user conflictville Alaska
How is that set digproof? my labs would be right in side of that.
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#1040138 - 12/10/08 02:31 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: martenpine]
sws002 Offline
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Registered: 01/23/08
Loc: NE Nebraska (Temporarily MI)
If you want to make it dogproof, you need to use a lid with a whole cut in it large enough for a coon to get into. The trap will have to sit farther back in the bucket so it has full range of motion. I don't believe you would be able to target cats with this setup, but you will be able to catch coons and avoid having a dog stick its head in.

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#1040623 - 12/10/08 06:11 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: sws002]
wisetrapper Offline
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Registered: 09/06/08
Loc: virginia
i just made one for a 160 and itll hang on a tree.Wish i had pics
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#1040739 - 12/10/08 06:43 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: wisetrapper]
traprjohn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Central NC
I use those square 4 gallon buckets from restaurants or hardware store
Cut a 1/4" slot 2" back from the opening
Then pop rivet a 20" piece of wood on the top so it overhangs the opening 10-12"
Cut a window in the upper 1/2 of the back (bucket bottom) and attach 1/2" rat wire (hardware cloth) also with pop rivets.
This allows your baits scent to flow.
Cats, coon and fox will enter.
Bucket sets was gone into great detail a couple issues ago in T&PC, you get when you belong to your state trapping assn.
You may have to use leaning poles, cats, coon and fox will also climb for a meal!
Hope this helps
John
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#1040927 - 12/10/08 07:37 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: traprjohn]
Tyler_Irish Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/01/08
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
traprjohn, i asked the DNR about the setup you describe. They say no go, The trap must be set atleast 7-10 inches from the mouth of the opening, an overhang does not give you the required inches between trap and entrance.
MinklessinPA: That setup is now a no go, unless I use a 120, and im not even going to try that.
Possum:I was wondering how many refusals people got with these dog proof boxes on cats and coon.

Most areas im going to go with elevated sets, but some areas they are not practical, So i would have to go with some other type of set either dog-proof boxes, cages or egg traps.

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#1040937 - 12/10/08 07:39 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Tyler_Irish]
Tyler_Irish Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/01/08
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
Also i do belong to my provincial ascociation and we dont get T&PC, only way i can get it is when it comes to the bookstore once in awhile.

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#1041355 - 12/11/08 01:03 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Tyler_Irish]
martenpine Offline
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Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: user conflictville Alaska
Tyler, are the cats your refering to bobcats or lynx?
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#1041477 - 12/11/08 06:36 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: martenpine]
Dooger Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/17/07
Loc: UP of Michigan
Here ya go Tyler:

http://www.trapperpredatorcaller.com/article/BucketTricks1/

http://www.trapperpredatorcaller.com/article/BucketTricks2/

Not Dog-Proof though.

I think the best way is to make wood boxes with your notches 7"+ deep....to be "dog proof" I mean
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#1041727 - 12/11/08 09:23 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Dooger]
Tyler_Irish Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/01/08
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
Marten: The cats im referring to are bobcats.

Dooger: Excellent articles and alot of usefull info, but they are still going for 160's in the mouth of the bucket. I havent been able to find many articles or posts of people who set them farther back.

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#1041795 - 12/11/08 10:02 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Tyler_Irish]
possumkiller_63 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/07
Loc: west michigan
martinpine - you put the lid on so a dog cant stick his head into an open pail then cut a small opening for coon you understand now?.

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#1041801 - 12/11/08 10:09 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: possumkiller_63]
mrcobaltblue Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Central IL
This link might help some people -

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/45819.html

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#1041855 - 12/11/08 10:49 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: mrcobaltblue]
Animals Only Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Western Michigan
There is no such thing as a dog proof cubby.


Edited by Animals Only (12/11/08 10:51 AM)
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#1041880 - 12/11/08 11:02 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Animals Only]
Tyler_Irish Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/01/08
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
May not be, but theres laws that say there are and thats what im trying to operate within.

Has anybody actually used these "dog-proof" cubbies? If so what was your success rate, GOOD, BAD, NO DIFFERENCE. Or is just better to construct a 5ft platform in areas with no trees.

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#1041914 - 12/11/08 11:24 AM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Tyler_Irish]
tuskettrapperman Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada 48yrs
Tyler I have given up on dog proof cubbies tried for 1 yr but coons passed leaning poles without climbing and refused to enter dog proof cubbies( now this was in early trapping season) some have better luck once they den and come out. I don't bother with coons anymore, people don't want us to 160's then I say let them put up with coon problems!
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#1042046 - 12/11/08 12:39 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: tuskettrapperman]
Tyler_Irish Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/01/08
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
Did you do your PLQ in Aldershot? Tusket

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#1042149 - 12/11/08 01:27 PM Re: Dog Proof Coniboxes [Re: Tyler_Irish]
tuskettrapperman Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada 48yrs
yeah Tyler just finished PLQ in Aldershot last week
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