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#700868 - 04/30/08 02:45 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Grubstake]
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Registered: 12/26/06
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Loc: Corner of Capitalism and Commo...
 Originally Posted By: Grubstake
you shoot him with your zeiss equipped rifle


because all his huffin and puffin is sure to FOG up any other scope...
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#700872 - 04/30/08 02:46 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
fishermann222 Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Bethel, Alaska
soooooo, how long until next trapping season?
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#700898 - 04/30/08 02:59 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: fishermann222]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2167
Loc: Nome, Alaska
Fish - AMEN!
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#701404 - 04/30/08 08:04 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
jharris Offline
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Registered: 03/02/07
Posts: 97
Loc: Presently:Koyuk Soon: Galena
I have not had a chance to get on here in a little while... yeah, I am looking forward to next trapping season as well. Also thinking about future building projects and how to make living during trapping season in God's country affordalbe.

Check out greenwood furnaces. I think that is what we might do when we build in the near future. I was really impressed with what I read on them. They heat water as well and can be hooked up to any modern conventional heating system (radiant floor, baseboard, etc.). They burn hot and clean.

I am going to wait until we actually get on the ground in Galena to make a decision on the solar and wind... but I would really like to be able to do something like that as it would be an expensive initial that we would see paying itself off faster and faster the higher fuel prices go up.

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#701660 - 04/30/08 09:35 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1318
Loc: Georgia
Which one what? Which rifle to use or which wolf to shoot?

Later,
45/70,

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#714519 - 05/11/08 09:23 AM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
madtrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 785
Loc: Ely, Minnesota
Maybe straw bales would work for a cabin? I guess you wouldn't want to haul them 50 miles or more though.
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#718215 - 05/13/08 08:56 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: martentrapper]
c hartman Offline
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Registered: 12/05/07
Posts: 31
Loc: pellston mi
 Originally Posted By: martentrapper
Wood stove and wind. You can get a windmill that provides DC electricity to heat a coil in a glycol tank. Almost free heat that way. Gotta a little more research to do tho.
mt


martentrapper
Funny how everyone thinks of wind power for electric but I have never had someone connect the dots on using that electricity to heat with.I had the oppertunity to discuss wind generators with a engerneer that designed the two big ones the electric company has near here.He told me to build one and have it work is simple but like others have said to build one that is still in one piece after the first storm is not so easy.The wind we have here is less than there in Nome and we have plenty to make a wind generator feasable.
What about pellet stoves? After the cost of the pellets and the shipping there to Nome is there any cost saving over other forms of heating.
Here I heat 100% with wood but it is easy to get and you don't think twice about turning the thermostat up

Chris

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#730291 - 05/23/08 10:48 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
nightlife Offline
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Registered: 05/05/08
Posts: 63
Loc: Mn
Hi guys straw bale houses are not new there are some down in Nebraska that have been around since the 1880 and are still going strong and I have been in some newer homes that ended up with major mold problems from water leaks even a minor one can result in a major mold problem

and as long as you keep it fairly air tight with no water coming in you dont get mold

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#730354 - 05/24/08 12:49 AM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: nightlife]
otterman Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1559
Loc: SW Alaska
Fish less then 5 months till the fall beaver season \:\)
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#731688 - 05/25/08 04:16 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: otterman]
Ron Offline
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Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 307
Loc: Bemidji, MN
Speaking of straw houses, about 8 years ago a family built one in Bagley MN, had stuco or concrete on the outside, treated the straw with something to be fire proof. After about a year, their teenage kid was showing off to his freinds and said the house was fire proof. so he took a match to it, to show them. House burnt to the ground. didn't take long etiher.
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#744503 - 06/05/08 07:17 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: jharris]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1517
Loc: Trapping the Yukon Delta, Ak
Saw an add in the paper today about a new outdoor boiler. A guy in Seward is selling them. Canadian made. Coal/wood. Self feeding with an auger. Augers out the ash as well.
Interesting. Very expensive but worth a look at if your looking to go that route.
Alaska Hydronics
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#744901 - 06/06/08 12:15 AM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Family Trapper]
otterman Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: SW Alaska
All I know is I have changes to make both in heating and weatherization of the home. I got 83 gal of oil the other day cost just over $400
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#746866 - 06/07/08 06:59 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: otterman]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 517
Loc: Takotna AK
Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with one of these coils coil How do you guy's think, if you had a truck/4 wheeler radiator in the line in another part of the house with a small fan behind it would work for a little more heat out of your wood stove, without blowing something up
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#747632 - 06/08/08 03:26 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: takotna]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1517
Loc: Trapping the Yukon Delta, Ak
Takotna I know a guy that heats his domestic house water and sauna with something very similiar using coal. I have looked at similiar things as well. The problem is finding someplace to put the exra hot water that will be produced. As long as the fire is going your making hot water. As long as you have a large enough heat sink to get rid of the extra you could do a lot with it.
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#747647 - 06/08/08 03:52 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Family Trapper]
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 5321
Loc: McGrath, AK
Greenhouse; Shop; neighbor $$$; Garage;
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#747651 - 06/08/08 03:57 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: white17]
fishermann222 Moderator Offline
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Loc: Bethel, Alaska
i have wondered if they make coils like that to go inside a wood stove that could be hooked into the glycol lines in a house. Thanks for the link takotna
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#747684 - 06/08/08 04:32 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: fishermann222]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2195
Loc: Bethel, AK
speaking of energy....Fish, I'll be at the north ramp where Tom pulled his raft up getting my last 5 logs if you are not busy. \:\)
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#747743 - 06/08/08 05:24 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
white17 Moderator Offline
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I have always thought it would make sense to run a hot water coil in the wood stove and run it along the sewer line to the septic tank. The only time you need to worry about freezing, you will have the stove burning.
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#748021 - 06/08/08 09:30 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: white17]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1517
Loc: Trapping the Yukon Delta, Ak
White that would be quite an "asset" for a heat sink! ;0)
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#748156 - 06/08/08 11:02 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Family Trapper]
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Missed ya fish.
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#761522 - 06/20/08 03:06 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
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Let's get back on task with this. Does anyone think that the coil thing would work on a woodstove?? If a guy put a circulating pump near the stove and only plugged it in when the stove was on....would that work? This coil would be hooked up to my boiler also.
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#761585 - 06/20/08 04:13 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Kusko]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2167
Loc: Nome, Alaska
I would think it would work, but make sure you have a pressure valve. I'm no plumber, but I think that might be needed. It does seem like a lot of work though to get it to your water tank, but it makes sense that it'd work.
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#761694 - 06/20/08 06:08 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Alaskan]
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Loc: The Great State of NEW YORK
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Homes/1982-05-01/Saskatoons-Superinsulated-Houses.aspx
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#761777 - 06/20/08 07:18 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: canvasback]
otterman Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1559
Loc: SW Alaska
This is not a done deal nor alternative energy but it should help a bit if they can pass it in Juneau

Governor Releases Draft Bill Proposing Return of Resource Wealth to Alaskans in One-Time Payment; Gas Tax Suspension Also Proposed
June 20, 2008, Juneau, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today released a draft bill proposing a special one-time payment in the amount of $1,200 to Alaskans and suspending the state fuel tax for one year. The legislation is intended to be a starting point for a discussion with the legislature about how to provide relief from high energy costs to working Alaskans and their families.
“As the fiscal year winds down, Alaskans are assured of surpluses beyond the billions of dollars put into savings and funding for priorities such as forward funding education and municipal revenue sharing,” Governor Palin said. “With savings and funding priorities covered, I am confident that Alaskans, who are the owners of our resources, can spend their resource revenue better than government can.”
She added, “We can afford to share resource wealth with Alaskans and to temporarily suspend the state fuel tax. It is my hope these items would be implemented by September. We look forward to working with legislators in the coming weeks to find the best possible solution to provide short-term energy relief.”
While the unique fiscal circumstances the state finds itself in at the end of this fiscal year warrant a special one-time payment to share some of the state’s wealth, the payment comes at a time when Alaskans are facing rising energy prices. High prices for oil are a double-edged sword for Alaskans. While public coffers fill, prices for heating fuel and gasoline have skyrocketed over the last six months and are now running into the $5- to $9-a-gallon range for heating fuel and gasoline across several areas of the state. (Examples: Kokhanok - $9.10 for heating fuel; Hughes - $8.50 for gasoline.)
The payment to Alaskans is estimated to distribute roughly $729 million of the state’s resource wealth. Suspending the state fuel tax for one year would save Alaskans about another $40 million in state fuel taxes.
Governor Palin and the administration will continue reviewing a proposal to make grants to utilities and introduce bills for the legislature to consider next month.
In addition to this short-term relief, efforts are ongoing toward a long-term energy plan for the state. That initiative is being directed by Steve Haagenson, who was appointed the State’s Energy Coordinator in March. Haagenson, who also serves as Executive Director of the Alaska Energy Authority, is developing a statewide plan to reduce energy costs, promote conservation and secure long-term supply solutions for each region of the state. Results of his work are expected by the end of this year.
“These energy prices are draining family finances and causing hardships all over the state,” said Haagenson.
In addition, it was announced that the Division of Investments will be amending its regulations to allow for low-interest loans to commercial fishermen to purchase more fuel-efficient engines. This proposal has no financial impact on the state’s budget.
A proposal to use debit cards to deliver the special one-time payments to Alaskans was dropped due to significant costs and the inability to use the debit cards in many rural Alaska communities.
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#762257 - 06/21/08 11:24 AM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: otterman]
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Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 337
Loc: McGrath, Alaska
In light of the last post....

I have been noticing there are a LOT more people using their bicyles in this community!

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#762345 - 06/21/08 01:49 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Ol' Blister]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2167
Loc: Nome, Alaska
I for one have been using a bike more. Figured it couldn't hurt the gut any, and so far it's been GREAT for reducing my gas usage.
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#762393 - 06/21/08 02:55 PM Re: Alternative Energy? [Re: Alaskan]
fishermann222 Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 3163
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
If you guys are going to do any work on your homes be sure to check out the home energy rebate program. Their is no longer an income limit for the rebates.

http://www.ahfc.state.ak.us/energy/weatherization_rebates.cfm
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