#600718 - 02/26/08 09:51 PM
how long to flesh a coon
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Cats/Raccs
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Registered: 12/20/07
Posts: 16
Loc: south central kansas 38yrs o...
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I'm not wanting a record time, I just need to know how long it takes to flesh a coon after the initial learning curve.
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#600763 - 02/26/08 10:02 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: Marbleyes]
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Cats/Raccs
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Registered: 12/20/07
Posts: 16
Loc: south central kansas 38yrs o...
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any suggestions on what equipement I need to buy. We have been catching around 200 coons a year but I think we are going to quadruple the amount of traps/spots to try for 500-1000. so I need equipement to do the job well.
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#600772 - 02/26/08 10:05 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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TRAPPER-ED
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Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 58
Loc: N. W. MISSOURI
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to do a good job it take's at least 20 min.of fleshing time, i am a taxidermist so i take my time to do good work.
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#600795 - 02/26/08 10:13 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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SNIPERBBB
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 1292
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
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to do a good job it take's at least 20 min.of fleshing time, i am a taxidermist so i take my time to do good work.
Taxi work is different than normal fur market work, ie more fine detail work. Most of the fleshing for fur is done from the ears to the tail and that takes a few minutes to get it as clean as you can get it.
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#600963 - 02/26/08 11:25 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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pass-thru
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 708
Loc: Hubert NC 33
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Takes 3 minutes to scrape a coon nice and clean.Smaller coon less.
You should consdier doing one of those quick educational videos and posting it on here. I recently got a knecker 600......still have a tough time on big boars getting the back of the neck clean. A small coon I can do in 5 minutes. Big boar over 20.
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#601052 - 02/27/08 01:58 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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tmrschessie
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1749
Loc: Near Red Cloud,Nebraska
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Takes me about 10 min, but I am slow. Tom
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#601122 - 02/27/08 04:47 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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TexA
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2079
Loc: Estherville, IA
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I too take-my-time and 10 to 12 minutes is enough time to do even those big ole boars. Smaller ones & females take a little less.
About 30 minutes from the floor to the hangers will cover most of them......Some less, some more.....
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#601140 - 02/27/08 05:14 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: TexA]
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Randall Bohannon
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Registered: 08/15/07
Posts: 27
Loc: Indiana
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I would like to see the final product of 38" coon fleshed in 2 to 3 min.
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#601418 - 02/27/08 09:48 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: don Wolf]
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timrose
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 856
Loc: Someplace Indiana
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Thats right....basily coon that become possession of the Fur Buyer are labled Production coon (for said fur buyer).
These buyers do this production work day in and day out.
I was fleshing coon and showing a guy that was interested in learning how to do it.....he says "what do you think of that coon your scraping with the holes in it from coon the coon hunter".
I said.....I consider it a production coon...and these I must do swiftly.
Other coon that are trapped, no damage, prime and of size get a little extra special care, but 90% are production and get put through the system quick.
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#601435 - 02/27/08 10:05 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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trapperkeck
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Registered: 11/12/07
Posts: 404
Loc: Crofton, NE
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I would challenge the 3-5 minutes to flesh a late-season NE coon. Good grief, I think it took me 40 minutes to flesh a 32" boar coon yesterday. That gristle on the back of the neck is some rugged stuff! Either I am really slow, too picky, or I just plain suck at it. I would go with the latter cause the coons I am doing are the first few in over 20 years that I have finished. Question: How picky are you folks about that area on the back of the neck to the top of the shoulders? Can yo leave any of that gristle on the pelt, or do you take it all off? I have been using the sharp side of my knife and taking it off the best I can. Sorry for the thread robbery...
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#601436 - 02/27/08 10:07 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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g3trappernc
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1043
Loc: Guilford County, NC
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12.4 hours
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#601437 - 02/27/08 10:07 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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g3trappernc
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1043
Loc: Guilford County, NC
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But I'm getting better.
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#601622 - 02/27/08 12:36 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: don Wolf]
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trapperkeck
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Registered: 11/12/07
Posts: 404
Loc: Crofton, NE
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Can you scrape them after they have been on the stretchers? If so, what's the process?
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#601670 - 02/27/08 01:11 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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kfin
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 68
Loc: MO
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So assuming a decent fletching and stretching job.....how much more do you get for a stretched/dried coon compared to selling green? This is also assuming that you didn't stretch it into the next size range. Don't know how often that would happen.
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#601674 - 02/27/08 01:14 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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trapper34
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Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 336
Loc: SW,MN
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Are there any videos out there that show the entire process of fleshing a coon or any other animal for that matter?
Check out Matt Jones after the catch video.That is the only one I have seen I am sure there are others out there. IF you have some in your area that does it ask them to show you.
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#601675 - 02/27/08 01:14 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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TRAPPER-ED
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Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 58
Loc: N. W. MISSOURI
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dead coyote is right on, for you daniel the trapping is fun, but also i like to get the most out of my fur's, i would much rather have 50 coon that avg. $30 than 60 coon that avg.$25 it pay's to do a nice job and do it right.
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#601957 - 02/27/08 03:21 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: trapperkeck]
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furslinger
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 346
Loc: virginia
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Can you scrape them after they have been on the stretchers? If so, what's the process?
rescraping coon is a very common occurrence for the country fur buyer. the process is basically the same except most do not get restretched. but its by far better to simply do a proper fleshing job to start with. it will gain you $$$$
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#601985 - 02/27/08 03:42 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: furslinger]
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whats his name
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 682
Loc: grand marais mi
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some of you guys that are good at fleshing coon if you would like it would be nice if you would post video of you doing so i never watched any one do it before i kinda just figured it out for my self. it would be nice to be able to compare and contrast.
thanks.
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#602062 - 02/27/08 04:26 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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cadyshac
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Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 93
Loc: Kentucky
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Get a good knife and keep it sharp, whatever kind of beam you are using make sure it is solidly braced and at a comfortable height. No reason to take more than 5 minutes on any coon except maybe a few tough old boars.
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#603347 - 02/28/08 07:37 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: cadyshac]
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TexA
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2079
Loc: Estherville, IA
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Some of the buyers are in it for the money, no doubt! I can't blame them for wanting to get finished up on a pile of coon laying on the floor. Experience has it's advantages and they make the most of it & no one is going to blame them for that.
There are those-of-us who are Hobby Trappers. We catch some pretty good numbers of coon as well as other furs, but we want each one to be or look in tip-top condition. So we will take a little more time to do up our furs.
Personally, I usually put up a little over 100 coon a season. That's enough for me, I don't go "hog wild" about them, no matter what the going price is. I catch them, skin them, put them in the freezer until things slow down a bit and then work them back out of the freezer until I have them all done-up and dried.
What I do up IS done right, looks good and usually brings me one of the better priced lots of fur when I take them to the buyer. I think that is what some of the other guys are doing also.
So when it comes down to "how much time it takes to process fur", that isn't quite as important as doing a good job in the end as it is in getting them put up as fast. Not all of us are "Speed Demons" but we get the job done and do it right.
I enjoy putting-up my fur, take my time without goofing off on them and when it becomes "work" it's not for me. I think there are a lot of others who feel the same way.
So "to each his own" applies.... RIGHT ???
Rescraping someone elses goof-up is no fun. It's too bad they didn't get the proper instruction on "How It's Done" when they started or someone didn't show them at one point or another through time. It's really no harder to do them correctly than it is to rush through them and then they have to be redone by someone else. I know if I was buying fur and had some furs come through that needed to be re-fleshed, they would probably go back home with the trapper. I don't think I'd have the patience to re-do them.
But---- the trapper would receive the information he needs to do them the right way, the first time, before he left MY shop!
Anyone who would like to learn, is more than welcome to ask for it in my shed. We won't rush through it, make mistakes etc and the proof is in the pudding, when it's sold.
SPEED is Not all that important to some of us....
Just Get-'er-Done! 
THANKS !!!!
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#603401 - 02/28/08 08:27 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: TexA]
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The Beav
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 779
Loc: Wisconsin
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Just because your a speed demon dosen't mean you can't do a A1 job. I put up fur for other trappers and I'm fast, you have to be to make any money but I'll put those skins up against any ones. I just love to work up fur It gives me great satisfaction and I do It right. I put up 80 coon for a guy and he had them on the Jan sale he averaged $28.76 he had good coon but the put up took him over the top. 80 coon took two days and I didn't work at It all that hard. But just remember I have been doing this for 50 years.
Take your time learn from someone who knows what there doing and practice and practice and then practice some more.
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#603561 - 02/28/08 10:59 AM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: The Beav]
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possum5676
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 936
Loc: kansas
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So a good flesher in a regular work day on a regular work day week on a regular season can flesh 12thousand coon. Thas alot ofcoon. no wonder im behind most the season, imagine if the feller stayed late and went 7 days a week, plumb boggles the mind.
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#603644 - 02/28/08 12:05 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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The Beav
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 779
Loc: Wisconsin
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When groney was haveing his coon done by Manuel labor There were guys that could flesh 200 or more coon In a day He had to cut them off after that since they were getting wore down and making a few mistakes.
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#603702 - 02/28/08 12:57 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
[Re: don Wolf]
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Cats/Raccs
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Registered: 12/20/07
Posts: 16
Loc: south central kansas 38yrs o...
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Why is wire not as good as wood? will there be a difference in price at the major auctions?
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#603835 - 02/28/08 02:23 PM
Re: how long to flesh a coon
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Greg H
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Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 37
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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I know this thread is about the time it takes to scrape a coon but there has also been a few questions on scraping technique.
Here is a quick video that I had put together and thought I would share.
Hope this works.
Greg
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