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#562972 - 02/05/08 08:17 PM Exposed Sets!
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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Does anyone have any pictures of the exposed sets for cats. I would like to see them all whether they are with shingles or just the pan.
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#562990 - 02/05/08 08:28 PM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
Bob Jameson Offline
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I showed several on the pics I posted earlier.I dont use shingles but some do. I prefer more flexible materials that do as good a job.
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#563040 - 02/05/08 08:56 PM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Bob Jameson]
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check back I will try to post some when I get time. Had some posted a few days ago but could not get them shrunk so they got the boot.
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#563254 - 02/05/08 10:56 PM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Possumslayer]
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As promised.
Distant view.



Closer



Close up



Catches from this set.





Distant view of area.



Close up. Cornstalk as a backer, set dirt hole where there was a natural bare spot downwind of the cornstalk.





After





Distant view







after





last one




and...



Edited by Possumslayer (02/05/08 11:00 PM)
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#563300 - 02/06/08 01:10 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Possumslayer]
Hunt12Trap Offline
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great pics
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#563306 - 02/06/08 01:28 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Hunt12Trap]
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I think I know the answer to my question, but am unsure of why. Will this work for fox and coon? I assume not, but why not. If maybe just the pan and jaws are showing, could it work then? It just seems to me that if the trap was bedded well, and stable, that they wouldn't notice the pan.
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#563358 - 02/06/08 06:32 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: spikexdeuce]
k. miller Offline
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nice picts skc...

spike.. you'll catch plenty of coon like this, but rarely a canine.. you will get a few coyotes/fox in this type of set... i catch a couple here and there... most of my cat sets are exposed when the weather turns bad...
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#563556 - 02/06/08 09:05 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: k. miller]
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I don'tknow about fox but it will work for coon. I catch them in my cat sets. May not be as productive as a covered coon set, but a frozen trap is not very productive either.
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#563571 - 02/06/08 09:12 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Possumslayer]
Kansasbert Offline
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possumslayer - no pan covers? Just set and go with no shingle, screen, dirt or anything over the pan?
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#563601 - 02/06/08 09:28 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Kansasbert]
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Here is one caught a nice tom in. Deleted picture per cameron 2 request

Edited by huntinglonewolf (02/06/08 10:54 AM)
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#563654 - 02/06/08 10:04 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: huntinglonewolf]
trapperkeck Offline
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I took the advice of these guys earlier this season and caught two cats in totally exposed sets. Thanks again fellas! I also took several skunks and a couple of coons. For me, I would rather have a mangy coyote avoid my exposed trap and leave it open for kittys only. K-9s will likely avoid the situation, so if you wish to catch them at the same set, you will probly want to cover your traps.
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#563667 - 02/06/08 10:15 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: huntinglonewolf]
Bob Jameson Offline
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Thats a killer set in any cat country.Thats what I call a CCPS set.Which stands for "Cats Cant Pass this Set".I build many such similar type sets in areas that have the cover, debris and attraction for traveling/hunting cats.But also can attract birds of prey in the wrong setting if too visible.
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#563710 - 02/06/08 10:44 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: huntinglonewolf]
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moot



Edited by Cameron2 (02/06/08 10:59 AM)
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#563715 - 02/06/08 10:45 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Bob Jameson]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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Loc: Salina Kansas
Bob, in your pictures i noticed that you put fairly large guide sticks on the levers of the trap. This wont slow them down at all?
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#563719 - 02/06/08 10:47 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Cameron2]
k. miller Offline
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it could have just as easily been a housecat or dog tracy.........

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#563720 - 02/06/08 10:47 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Bob Jameson]
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they have bene working good for me. I have missed 1 cat, day after i set some. Had a cat walk 5 feet from my set. Other than that one the only cat tracks I see around my sets go into the trap.
I have had 2 pull out leaving fur and 1 left a toe. Pan tension issues on those 3 misses.
Have been thinking of trying a shingle, but have not yet. I think if I do I will use the same setup, only with a shingle on the pan.
by the way those traps are #3 and I think #4 dbls.
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#563731 - 02/06/08 10:53 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: k. miller]
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 Originally Posted By: k. miller
it could have just as easily been a housecat or dog tracy.........




True. True. But house cats and dogs aren't federally protected. I understand your point, but I still think its a bad idea. Just my opinion.
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#563733 - 02/06/08 10:54 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Possumslayer]
Bob Jameson Offline
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The guide sticks are dead pieces of wood and not very heavy. My traps are more then strong enough to clear and throw the guides upon firing the trap. Go make a few sets and fire the trap and see if there is a problem for you. If you are concerned you can push your guide sticks into the ground if not frozen at an angle along side the jaw lever area and eliminate the other guiding system.Or push some thin shale or rocks on edge in the same fashion to guide the foot.
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#563735 - 02/06/08 10:56 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Cameron2]
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I deleted the picture per your request cameron2.
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#563744 - 02/06/08 11:01 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Bob Jameson]
k. miller Offline
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i think anyone who has trapped cats using exposed baits for any length of time has released some sort of raptor......they have to eat too!

release them unharmed.......this brings up another support for the offset traps...
the bigger offset traps will do very little damage to a raptor's leg thus allowing an unharmed release
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#563745 - 02/06/08 11:02 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: huntinglonewolf]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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Ok thanks! Also do you line the bed with wax paper , or cover hulls or anything?
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#563751 - 02/06/08 11:04 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
k. miller Offline
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skc.......go find you a big ole kansas cedar tree......get right down under those limbs and dig up some of the old dry needles... put them in a bucket... use them in your trap bed before you lay your trap... they let the rain and water go right through and the air trapped keeps the trap from freezing down........
use what is available.....haha
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#563758 - 02/06/08 11:06 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: k. miller]
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Great pics guys!
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#563765 - 02/06/08 11:09 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: k. miller]
Bob Jameson Offline
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I use what is handy if dry enough, if not I always carry hulls and dry sifted peat in a cat litter container with me on walk in set ups and use as needed.I lightly salt the bar ground first to eliminate the frost bite then dust the bed area with my bedding material.Local materials work well if not real wet. The dry hulls and peat doesnt weigh much. I tie a rope around the handle area of the cat litter container and make a sling to throw over my shoulder to carry.
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#563766 - 02/06/08 11:09 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Creek Trapper]
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did you notice the claw marks on the tree? remake haha
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#563768 - 02/06/08 11:12 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: k. miller]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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Ok thanks everyone. This should help me out alot.
Anyone else have any pics.

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#563774 - 02/06/08 11:13 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
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#563779 - 02/06/08 11:15 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
Creek Trapper Offline
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SKC, I'm heading out now to make a few more sets, I'll see what I can snap a few pics of.

I'm guessing school was cancelled today? \:\)
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#563780 - 02/06/08 11:17 AM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Creek Trapper]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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You guessed right! I dont know if i like the snow though, might hold me back a couple days!
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#564007 - 02/06/08 01:56 PM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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ttt
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#564332 - 02/06/08 04:41 PM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
Creek Trapper Offline
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Didn't get very much time, so I only got one set out. But here's some other ones that I have put on here before as well.

Walk thru (Some drops of Lenon's Bobcat Nature's Call on the sticks by the levers)




This set was put in a low spot I guess, so when everything melted it was all underwater. If you look towards the back you can see 2 plastic eyes, that is where the hole was.


You can see where the trap is on this one (dirt). It no longer has dirt on it and is exposed due to freeze/thaw.


And here is the one from today. A deep hole is right below where you see the tinsel hanging inside the "hut" as I call it. (Bad pics, sun was not cooperating)




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#564342 - 02/06/08 04:47 PM Re: Exposed Sets! [Re: Creek Trapper]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
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Thanks Alot!
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