#493812 - 01/01/08 04:20 PM
advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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barredrock
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 97
Loc: Hiawatha kansas
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what are they
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#493822 - 01/01/08 04:26 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: barredrock]
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Haus
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 767
Loc: North Central Arkansas
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Advantage: It pretty much does away with pan creep.
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#493823 - 01/01/08 04:26 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: barredrock]
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redneck_cowboy
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Registered: 07/12/07
Posts: 3722
Loc: Scott County,Virginia...14
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advantages-less pan has to travel to fire for mink,muksrat,weasel and other small critters
Disadvantages-if a yote,bobcat or fox was to trip it it could end up with a toe catch and pull out
i caught a fox today with a #1 1/2 coil on nite latch and was a very good catch and hold...sometimes ya get lucky
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#493915 - 01/01/08 05:01 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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Trapper RD
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Registered: 02/27/07
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Loc: Allegany County, NY.
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#494256 - 01/01/08 07:15 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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Andy Smith
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 266
Loc: Hill City, Idaho
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[quote=redneck_cowboy]advantages-less pan has to travel to fire for mink,muksrat,weasel and other small critters
Disadvantages-if a yote,bobcat or fox was to trip it it could end up with a toe catch and pull out
I completely disagree.. I use night latched traps for all my fox, coyote, and cat traps. They work very well and when coupled with the proper pan tension can virtually eliminate toe catches. The reason being that an animal has his weight on the pan when it goes off and you get a very sudden, short, quick release with no pan travel. This eliminates problems with animals pulling back because they felt the pan move so they no longer have there weight forward on the pan (especially soft stepping cats). I cant think of any disadvantages that would keep you from doing it unless it is time or effort.
Edited by Andy Smith (01/01/08 07:17 PM)
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#494353 - 01/01/08 07:52 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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TasteLikeChicken
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1937
Loc: Oregon
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No disadvantages...only advantages. Definately will NOT cause toe catches!! That is a pan tension issue...not a nitelatch issue.
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#494497 - 01/01/08 08:37 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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archerobx
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 504
Loc: PA via OBX
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AD: many. everytime I set I know its the same way
DIS: When you get some new traps and you for get to night latch them and forget to check them prior to season. then you set it expecting to hear a click but you hear a wack and you know the rest.
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#494983 - 01/01/08 11:47 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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Dooger
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Registered: 04/17/07
Posts: 235
Loc: UP of Michigan
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Just curious as to how much pan tension you guys prefer when you have the possibility at cats, coyote, and fox all in the same area.
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#495120 - 01/02/08 07:21 AM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Dooger]
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trapwv
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 347
Loc: West Virginia
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Haus has named the biggest advantage I see. I did not night latch my traps because I figured just filing it short was fine. I now see the advantage of dropping the pan to the latch point. It removes the slop in the pan.
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#497221 - 01/03/08 09:20 AM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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archerobx
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 504
Loc: PA via OBX
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I dont use any tention on my traps
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#497422 - 01/03/08 12:13 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: redneck_cowboy]
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Yodog
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 703
Loc: Utah
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advantages-less pan has to travel to fire for mink,muksrat,weasel and other small critters
Disadvantages-if a yote,bobcat or fox was to trip it it could end up with a toe catch and pull out
i caught a fox today with a #1 1/2 coil on nite latch and was a very good catch and hold...sometimes ya get lucky
Barredrock, I hope you don't believe that..... Nightlatching is used to take away PAN CREEP. When the trap fires, it fires NOW.
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#497457 - 01/03/08 12:38 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Yodog]
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big8s
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1126
Loc: Green County KY
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I bought some traps that were nightlatched and I wish I wouldnt have the guy I bought them from didnt tell they were and I cant set them as they are over done and I aint catching a finger. I know the first thing somebody is gonna say is "he did it wrong" and yer right the guy did it wrong but none the less I have to buy new pans for these traps. I have never nightlatched any traps and done ok in my years, granted I dont trap to the extent some of you do but in my opinion it is not needed (and this is only my opinion so no backtalk). I file the bottom side of the trigger though so it does fire clean but thats it.
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#497516 - 01/03/08 01:12 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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big8s
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1126
Loc: Green County KY
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#17 that were the he didnt know what he was doing came in I did try what yer saying but he did to after he filed to much off, he bent the frame in way to much and now they are almost touching the jaw so I need to put new pans on so I can use them. I dont think I need to replace the triggers but the pans definatly. I'm not saying nightlatching is a bad thing if done correctly but for the scale I'm on I dont see were it helps any, I have always had good solid catches so I just kinda stick with what works I guess.
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#497656 - 01/03/08 02:41 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: big8s]
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Walkin Tall
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Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 136
Loc: Mississippi Delta
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I'm pretty sure the reason I nitelatch is because the guy that taught me how to trap was a nitelatcher. But, I do like it.
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#498031 - 01/03/08 06:07 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Walkin Tall]
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Bismuth Boy
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 181
Loc: Northwest PA
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Big8s, sounds like it wasn't a nightlatch but a Dobbins short latch.
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#498260 - 01/03/08 07:31 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
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Midwest trpr
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 18
Loc: NE
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Now that we have answered the easy question:
What are the advantages if any to the nightlatch over the dobbins short latch other than the obvious one I already thought of (click)?
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#498749 - 01/03/08 10:02 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Midwest trpr]
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Haus
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 767
Loc: North Central Arkansas
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Big 8. You might have more money than me, but I would just weld a bead on the end of the pan and make a new lip. Wouldn't take much.
haus
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#498775 - 01/03/08 10:15 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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CoonDuke
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 286
Loc: PA
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Allows you to bed the trap on a high pan which reduces the chances of snapping while being bedded. Once the trap is bedded, the jaws can be held with the thumb and index finger and the pan lowered.
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#498778 - 01/03/08 10:16 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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Haus
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 767
Loc: North Central Arkansas
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lol
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#498785 - 01/03/08 10:18 PM
Re: advantages and disadvantages of night latch
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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IOWAtrapper
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1438
Loc: Mitchell County Iowa
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Redneck Cowboy - "Disadvantages-if a yote,bobcat or fox was to trip it it could end up with a toe catch and pull out"
Just another example of why kids should not be giving trapping advice on here!
LOL you are right Paul.
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