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#48234 - 01/20/07 04:59 PM Lynx thread/archive
Hupurest Hupurest trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 3905 Loc: Las anchorage	I set a few cubbies on some fresh (3 day old) tracks. How long before they usually come back by there?? on one set, I found where the lynx had bedded down, will they tend to do that in the same area??
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#48534 - 01/20/07 08:18 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
martentrapper martentrapper trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 477 Loc: Nome, Ak.	If there are plenty of rabbits around, they might not go far. Of course they may not be too hungry either. Have some lure. If rabbits are scarce they can do some travelling. Can't really predict what kind of time frame they might come back on. mt
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#51020 - 01/22/07 12:10 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: martentrapper]
Hupurest Hupurest trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 3905 Loc: Las anchorage	I did the area up good, I hung about 4 or 5 duck wings around, use rimrock for call, and I have a big hunk of beaver and a rabbit in the cubby. and a 750 wolf OS. _________________________ Beaver for everyone VOTE DOBBINS in -08
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#51102 - 01/22/07 01:01 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
Kusko Kusko "Mr. Mayor" trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 2086 Loc: Bethel, AK	I'm having similar problems. Wayy too many rabbits. I also have some competition. I have a guy setting within a mile of my area. I'll going all out this next check with ribbon, wings, lure, more beaver. I might even through in a extra trap or two. _________________________ "There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin." Linus Van Pelt
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#51138 - 01/22/07 01:21 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
snowman snowman trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 3286 Loc: Michigan	Originally Posted By: Kusko I'm having similar problems. Wayy too many rabbits. I also have some competition. I have a guy setting within a mile of my area. I'll going all out this next check with ribbon, wings, lure, more beaver. I might even through in a extra trap or two. I'll bet that if you order some of those, they'll draw the cats to your sets.
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#51238 - 01/22/07 02:26 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: snowman]
Hupurest Hupurest trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 3905 Loc: Las anchorage	what are you using for lure?? I was thinking of getting some catnip at the store and putting that around.. _________________________ Beaver for everyone VOTE DOBBINS in -08
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#51474 - 01/22/07 04:31 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
Dusty Dusty trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 113 Loc: North Pole, AK	Sometimes they just won't come to a cubby no matter what's in there. Hanging a few snares where they are in the first place will probably be more productive than looking for that perfect lure. But post it here if you DO find that lure.... Setting a trap about 4' in front of your cubby will get those cats that just peek in and don't commit. _________________________
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#51490 - 01/22/07 04:35 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
Kusko Kusko "Mr. Mayor" trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 2086 Loc: Bethel, AK	I was just using that Marten Super All Call. I didn't want too much attention paid to it as we had high traffic with the K300 last weekend. _________________________ "There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin." Linus Van Pelt
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#51519 - 01/22/07 04:43 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
Hupurest Hupurest trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 3905 Loc: Las anchorage	king and buseer put a WHOOPin on those others eh, anyways, maybe I will put out some magnum marten there the lure I was using Rimrock, is basically castor and catnip. Do you have to set "on top" of their tracks, or in the area?? My last set is at a funnel, and there are 3 sets crossing there, BUT, it is also where the trail cuts through, so I set of about 50 yds, "downstream" of there because of the traffic. _________________________ Beaver for everyone VOTE DOBBINS in -08
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#51572 - 01/22/07 05:13 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
smalltimetrapper smalltimetrapper trapper Registered: 01/09/07 Posts: 243 Loc: Interior Alaska	I caught my lynx this year in a cubby baited with a rabbit and tainted beef scraps, used the Powder River Cat Call for lure, a grouse wing swingin' in the breeze. I heard that Dean Wilson used PRCC for canines as well, I haven't tried that application yet. I used Bridger #3's, seems to be a good trap for this. _________________________ If Barrack is elected, America will become an obamanation.
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#51608 - 01/22/07 05:27 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
Kusko Kusko "Mr. Mayor" trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 2086 Loc: Bethel, AK	Originally Posted By: Hupurest king and buseer put a WHOOPin on those others eh, anyways, maybe I will put out some magnum marten there the lure I was using Rimrock, is basically castor and catnip. Do you have to set "on top" of their tracks, or in the area?? My last set is at a funnel, and there are 3 sets crossing there, BUT, it is also where the trail cuts through, so I set of about 50 yds, "downstream" of there because of the traffic. Yah, they sure did. King has this race wired and it seems to be a good one to get because of the prize money $20000. I put my cubbies in areas that the cats have been seen in the past. _________________________ "There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin." Linus Van Pelt
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#52021 - 01/22/07 08:07 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
Alaskacajun Alaskacajun trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 584 Loc: Alaska	I use Asa Lenon's Bobcat Allcall... With #4 DLS and MB 750 wolfer's... Steve loaned me a few duck wings this year and I used them! I caught a 25 lbs Tom this year in a walk through cubby, 2 weeks later I had a similar sized cat walk up to the cubby and turned and left... I don't know why. Hopefully next week I'll have him! Lynx tracks on my trail... My lynx set up, #4 DLS on 10 foot of chain with MB Crunch Proof swivels... Walk through cubby, baited with a bunny... - Clint Edited by Alaskacajun (01/22/07 08:25 PM) _________________________ Pancho
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#52348 - 01/22/07 10:57 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
Loel Loel trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 74 Loc: Wasilla, Ak	I like to use duck or spruce hen for bait in my cat sets. I use bridger #3s mostly. Clint, your cats made it to my end of the road this week. lol
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#52382 - 01/23/07 12:47 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Loel]
Gator Jr. Gator Jr. trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 257 Loc: Eagle River, Alaska	Loel, Did you pick up an cats this weekend? _________________________
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#52564 - 01/23/07 08:52 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Loel]
Alaskacajun Alaskacajun trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 584 Loc: Alaska	Originally Posted By: Loel I like to use duck or spruce hen for bait in my cat sets. I use bridger #3s mostly. Clint, your cats made it to my end of the road this week. lol A lot can happen in 2 weeks... Hope you catch 'em before we do though, sounds like you're having a slow year so far! - Clint _________________________ Pancho
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#52938 - 01/23/07 02:41 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
martentrapper martentrapper trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 477 Loc: Nome, Ak.	I've had my share of experience with picky cats. I found 2 thingsd that helped. I quit making cubbies, sort of, and started making a big obvious dirt hole with some sticks, and spruce boughs as guiding. Make this set under a well furred spruce for weather protection. Bait, lure and sight attractor. The cats seemed more likely to approach to where they stepped on the trap. I put the bait on the ground, in the hole, which means the shrews/voles would be eating it, but vole activity at a set isn't all bad. The other thing I did was walk, or snowshoe, off my snogo trail to the tree where the snowhole was made. Even in little snow, you can make an obvious trail. Hang snares on that trail. Sometimes I did one, sometimes 2. it appeard that from whatever direction the lynx approached my set, he would end up walking on my trail. If he didn't enjoy the pleasures of the bait and trap, me often ended up in the snare. Of course, you have to consider weather, snow, wind, etc. when making these sets. There's one other set that was a 100% catch rate set for me. Make a snowhole on an incline, like the side of a beaver house. Set your trap so he has to step up onto it to peer into the hole. I think the curiosity factor, to see what is in the hole(that he probably already smelled) always did him in. mt
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#53890 - 01/23/07 09:42 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: martentrapper]
Loel Loel trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 74 Loc: Wasilla, Ak	Ted, no I didn't connect on any. I missed one twice with snares. The extra 10" of snow since last week didn't help on that one. The other came in to a cubby and circled it and left. Another came in on another cubby and ate my duck. The snow that fell off of the tree covered the trap. The cat even layed on top of the trap and ate the duck. Go figure. Clint it has been real slow year. Not my best year by any means. I am spending more time resetting then exploring this year. MT, I have been playing with a snow hole set this year. I put about a baseball sized hole in the snow bank on the side of my trail. I put bait and lure in the hole and put a #3 in front of it. Now all I need is some cats to walk by. lol
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#56032 - 01/25/07 01:12 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Loel]
mmwb mmwb trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 184 Loc: Western Wyoming	Rather than post twice, I'd appreciate it if you cat guys would critique some of my cubbies posted at: http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=56031&page=0#Post56031 While targeting bobcats, I think your conditions are more similar to mine than most of the lower 48. Comments would be appreciated.
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#56060 - 01/25/07 05:00 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: mmwb]
bctrapper bctrapper trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 335 Loc: Prince George, BC Canada	Your sets look fine. Alway remember 2 things. Cats hunt by sight and they don't like anything around their head. Make sure they will not tough any sticks or bush with their wiskers.
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#57103 - 01/25/07 06:17 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: bctrapper]
northway northway trapper Registered: 01/25/07 Posts: 223 Loc: Tok, Alaska	I am having the same problem with cats going by sets. I think MT idea of dirt holes and snares is best. I am setting snares in the trail where it narrows down. I will hang the snare and set a branch in the trail to block the other side funneling them into the snare. This works very well for me.
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#57680 - 01/25/07 10:27 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: northway]
Alaskacajun Alaskacajun trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 584 Loc: Alaska	mmwb I think you could make your cubby's a little taller, maybe 5 feet tall, to give your cats a little more room... Mine were 4 feet when we started trapping this year, but they're pretty spacious now after the wind storm! Also I hang my bait on the ceiling of the cubby and place the trap near the entrance with guide sticks and slightly snow covered.... Steve places his #3 DLS pretty much out in the open inside the cubby and does well! I don't think the #3's do well covered and I know they won't work when drifted over. Thats why I went with bigger traps... Lure, lure, lure... I lure everytime I check and smile when I smell a cubby way before I see it! I also snare off my back trail, and the lynx do walk my trail as you can see in the pics above! Although I've only caught 1 Lynx this year, I am convinced that if a cat walks down my ridge he will be there when I check..... Steve used to make sets under a spruce tree with wings hanging from a branch and bait wired to a tree. He had cats that would walk all around those sets and didn't connect until he tried the cubby set! I do a few different style cubby's, one that is a walk through. One that is a traditional style cubby and one that is butted up to a big spruce useing the over hanging branches as a roof and simply fencing off the sides about 5 feet away from the tree. This set tends to look more natural and I am excited to find out which one connects more often as I have all 3 on my line..... If you can use foot traps I think you would have better success, with the trails snared off for good measure. Just my $.02! - Clint _________________________ Pancho
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#58362 - 01/26/07 12:26 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
Kusko Kusko "Mr. Mayor" trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 2086 Loc: Bethel, AK	I never realized Clint that the cubbies had to be that big. I might have to call [I'madork] Proenneke and get some cabin making hints. $\:\)$ $\:\)$ I made mine big enough that the cat's whiskers wouldn't touch the sides, but not nearly that big. I might have to make my next one a little bit bigger. I'm pretty anxious to check tomorrow. _________________________ "There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin." Linus Van Pelt
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#58369 - 01/26/07 12:30 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
Hupurest Hupurest trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 3905 Loc: Las anchorage	5ft tall, but how wide???? I try to make em around 15 in wide at the base. I like to use an alder that is forked and use it for the opening, which is about waste high...I might even get pictures developed thisweekend. _________________________ Beaver for everyone VOTE DOBBINS in -08
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#58989 - 01/26/07 06:53 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
Bushman Bushman trapper Registered: 12/28/06 Posts: 314 Loc: Alberta	Lynx cubby should be big enough that a lynx can turn around in it. Dusty gave the best piece of advice, put your foothold way out front, anyone who traps lynx can relate to lynx approaching only so far without committing. Also lure up front of cubby as well as bait and lure back portion. Doesn't hurt to hang a few snares on the sides or back of cubbies either. When rabbits are plentiful and you know where lynx are hunting them put your snares right on the runs. The height of the snare allows a rabbit to run under but will catch a cat. You have to put out lots of snares though if you want big numbers. _________________________ http://www.sheepcreek.net
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#59178 - 01/26/07 08:09 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: martentrapper]
guloboy guloboy trapper Registered: 01/12/07 Posts: 119 Loc: Tazlina, Alaska	I would not overlook martentrappers comments. A general rule is lynx become less interested in cubbies as the season progresses. I get way more walkby's in mid to late January than I do in December. Modified dirtholes, snares, and pee post's seem a little more effective late season. Make a visual mess (dig down into the dirt and spread it around), try something different to get their attention. Dusty is right too with bringing the trap out from the cubby, that can never hurt as long as you do not have rabbits everywhere. That still does not help with walk-bys though, you know, the ones where the lynx does not even stop. Here is a pic of some trapped and snared lynx from earlier in the season. It is all part of trapping.
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#59229 - 01/26/07 08:27 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
fishermann222 fishermann222 "OX" trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 3036 Loc: Bethel, Alaska	GREAT photo Guloboy, where in AK are you at? _________________________ I survived the Tman crash of '06
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#59539 - 01/26/07 10:49 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
Alaskacajun Alaskacajun trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 584 Loc: Alaska	Originally Posted By: Kusko I never realized Clint that the cubbies had to be that big. I might have to call [I'madork] Proenneke and get some cabin making hints. $\:\)$ $\:\)$ I made mine big enough that the cat's whiskers wouldn't touch the sides, but not nearly that big. I might have to make my next one a little bit bigger. I'm pretty anxious to check tomorrow. Different strokes for different folks I guess! Looks like guloboy has the lynx thing down this year..... - Clint Edited by Alaskacajun (01/26/07 10:50 PM) _________________________ Pancho
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#59544 - 01/26/07 10:58 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
Arctic Trapper Arctic Trapper trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 198 Loc: Los Anchorage	guloboy, WOW!!! Whats that 8-9 Lynx? One check? What part of the State you trapping in? If I had to guess your trapping Dillingham/Bristol Bay area. Also like the Wolverine pics on the 330 Bucket thread. AT _________________________ 2007-2008 Critter Catch Marten - 2 Otter - None Yet Mink - 3 Ermine - 1 Wolverine - None Yet
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#60205 - 01/27/07 01:56 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Arctic Trapper]
guloboy guloboy trapper Registered: 01/12/07 Posts: 119 Loc: Tazlina, Alaska	I think there was 12 there (8 in front, 4 in back on the right hand side), It was 2 1/2 weeks (3 checks) worth. I just let them freeze for a week or two hanging like that to kill the fleas. I don't mess with raid and stuff like like. Lynx are not all that common in the Dillingham/Bristol Bay area. I'm trapping the Copper River Basin area.
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#60493 - 01/27/07 06:06 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
victoria vixen victoria vixen trapper Registered: 12/28/06 Posts: 609 Loc: Bahamas	Dream a little dreammmm of meeeeee (LOL) Nice lynx!!! I was wondering if you guys up there ever used snow pads? It is a product made to go under and over a trap to keep it from freezing down. I have a large inventory of them. To Alaskacajun,...I saw a picture of your DLS. Do you NOT laminate your trap jaws???
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#60576 - 01/27/07 06:55 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
Alaskan Alaskan trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 2091 Loc: Nome, Alaska	Picked up some MB 650s for use on the cats, and they look smaller than my #3s I used. Hope they fire thru snow better, anyone have experience w/them? Also going to use the MB 750 for Lynx, but the beaver addition, NOT the wolfers. I REALLY recommend the one handed setter for these if you have the old style. WAY easier!!! _________________________ "I'm not hung over. I'm just tired and have a headache."
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#60594 - 01/27/07 07:07 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
otterman otterman trapper Registered: 12/24/06 Posts: 1504 Loc: SW Alaska	victoria I think you will find that very few modifications happen to traps up here especailly things that add WEIGHT. Weight = $$$ lots and lots of $$$ sometimes. I have several hundred traps and the only laminated jaws among them are the ones that came that way some wolf traps. Arctic trapper the lynx pop in Bristol Bay is very poor for the most part especailly when compared to elsewhere in the state. I have trapped 2 in 25 yrs and haven't seen a lynx track in something like 7 or 8 yrs. I have a friend who has grown up trapping here is about 45 yrs old and he has only ever gotten one and he shot it. _________________________ It is interesting how much a man will do to suceed and how much more he will doto make sure he has excuses for failure when sucess isa simple process
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#60802 - 01/27/07 08:56 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: otterman]
victoria vixen victoria vixen trapper Registered: 12/28/06 Posts: 609 Loc: Bahamas	Here in the states, most of us modify our traps. Ask any real big fur trapper and I bet most would answer yes. Laminated jaws are a big part of that as they displace the power and add to the holding. However I've seen Wolves held in 1 and a half long springs, same with arctic fox,.... but that's a trap I'd use for muskrats. Personally I own over 700 traps and all my foot traps are laminated, even little # 1's. So to each their own I guess.
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#60820 - 01/27/07 09:09 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
Alaskacajun Alaskacajun trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 584 Loc: Alaska	Awright just for clarification's sake I'll state for the record that the reason behind my large cubby size is the amount of snow we get up North. By the time we are pulling sets we have to crawl on our belly's to unhook the trap! $\:\)$ Here's one of mine that "was" pretty big when we started, but seems to be just about right, now! Here's another one on my line.... Here's one of Steve's "rabbit" cubby's... $\:\)$ Here's Steve with a double, Ermine and Rabbit, you go Steve! One rabbit stew comin' right up... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg Run Away......... These are my boys, they were wore out after a long day on the road and walking the line! This is what it's all about right here! Victoria Vixen, I barely rust 'em much less laminate 'em.... I pretty much set my traps off and reset every check as they tend to get blown over several inches each week anyway! My MB 750's are laminated from Minnesota Trapline Products... Alaskan Steve has a few MB 650's and loves them! But I LOVE the 750's more! - Clint Edited by Alaskacajun (01/28/07 02:12 AM) _________________________ Pancho
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#61205 - 01/28/07 08:19 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
victoria vixen victoria vixen trapper Registered: 12/28/06 Posts: 609 Loc: Bahamas	Thanks Clint, nice to see how others do it. Keep up the good work! I have trapped in Arctic conditions (mostly in northern Manitoba). They didn't do anything special to their traps either. They never even heard of dying or waxing traps. When I brought out my traps they just looked at me funny like I was from another planet. Down here (lower 48) they have the BMP's. They tell us a trap should have this or that...Canada's doing the same thing on their traps(who knows?). Anyway, nice to hear from you guys up north. Keep catchin' the GOOD stuff!
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#61206 - 01/28/07 08:19 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
victoria vixen victoria vixen trapper Registered: 12/28/06 Posts: 609 Loc: Bahamas	Thanks Clint, nice to see how others do it. Keep up the good work! I have trapped in Arctic conditions (mostly in northern Manitoba). They didn't do anything special to their traps either. They never even heard of dying or waxing traps. When I brought out my traps they just looked at me funny like I was from another planet. Downhere (lower 48) they have the BMP's. They tell us a trap should have this or that...Canada,s doing the same thing on their traps. (who knows?)Anyway, nice to hear from you guys up north. Keep catchin' the GOOD stuff!
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#61404 - 01/28/07 10:51 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
Dusty Dusty trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 113 Loc: North Pole, AK	Laminations slow traps down and freeze in. The only trap I run that NEEDS laminated is the Manning #9. It breaks more legs than I would like even with the laminated jaws, but it doesn't freeze in very often. The only way thicker jaws hold better is by not breaking legs. I'd sure like to see a picture of a wolf in a 1 1/2.... Hi Corey! _________________________
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#61430 - 01/28/07 11:16 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Dusty]
martentrapper martentrapper trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 477 Loc: Nome, Ak.	I think laminated is great. Less tearing of the skin. Less likely to break bones. I can see it might freeze in a little more. Hard to debate whether traps NEED laminating. Probably they don't in most cases. It's a matter of preferance.
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#62117 - 01/28/07 07:15 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: martentrapper]
victoria vixen victoria vixen trapper Registered: 12/28/06 Posts: 609 Loc: Bahamas	I suppose then, the trick is to learn how to keep traps from freezing down. I learned long ago from the Inuit people just how that's done in snow conditions that exceed minus 60F (Check out Re: HELP!!DONT KNOW HOW TO TRAP IN SNOW! in the Land Trapping Archive). I used the Manning #9 back before it was called the Alaskan #9. I found the jaws way too thin for my personal taste. It reminds me of the Victor #2 square jaw... too thin jaws that damage feet and legs of your target. Personally I laminated every foot trap I owned. Ask Craig O'Gorman, probably one if not the best coyote trappers in the lower 48, his view on laminating jaws. He stated he didn't have time for anybody who wouldn't do it. That speaks volumes to me. I can personally say I have never toed or footed an animal in my adult life (after modifying all my foot traps). That's over 10,000 fur bearers (red and grey fox, coyote, wolves, Arctic fox, beaver, otter, mink, badger, skunk, civet cat, possum, raccoon, and bobcat. Not to mention several thousand muskrats and a weasel or two). This of course, is just one person's opinion but if you ask most long line trappers here in the lower 48 you'll find almost all of them modify their traps to some degree.
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#62460 - 01/28/07 09:48 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
Alaskacajun Alaskacajun trapper Registered: 12/26/06 Posts: 584 Loc: Alaska	I would probably laminate the #4's if they didn't fire so slow when they get drifted over. Those 750's have absolutely no problem rising to the occasion though! - Clint _________________________ Pancho
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