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#467838 - 12/17/07 06:31 PM Please critique my sets (pics)
nboost Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 61
Loc: Edmond, Ok
I am new to this.
I set out 4 traps last week and caught some coons and a rabbit. I am after coyotes and cats. There seems to be alot of coons on this place. There is also alot of cats. I have been doing dirthole sets. Look and see if these look right.

Dug the bed and placed the trap


Another pic


Finished set


2nd set


3rd set There are ALOT of cat tracks by this creek. I left the pan exposed cause I don't want to catch a coyote here as the soil is sandy and I am afraid he will pull up my stakes. I hung a couple of feathers in the tree above the set and put some perfect lure in the hole


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#467850 - 12/17/07 06:36 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: nboost]
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Registered: 10/28/07
Posts: 239
Loc: Maine
what size traps are those
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#467876 - 12/17/07 06:48 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: D THE TRAPPER]
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Registered: 07/08/07
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Loc: Minnesota
looks like a bridger #3 great traps
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#467881 - 12/17/07 06:50 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: mntrapperboy]
dogdexter1 Offline
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Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 91
Loc: ND
Look how much open area you have around your trap, guide him so all he can step on is the pan
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#467891 - 12/17/07 06:53 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: dogdexter1]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 179
Loc: Lebanon, Kansas
i'm not much of an expert but i would say that you forgot to cover that first trap.
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#467892 - 12/17/07 06:53 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: nboost]
Ranchhand Offline
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Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 16
Loc: New Mexico
If I were you I would buy a cat trapping video, the good one's have to of info on location and sets. JC Conner Cat Video is good, so are Steve Woods, and Wayne Derrick. Good Luck.
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#467893 - 12/17/07 06:53 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: dogdexter1]
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Registered: 11/25/07
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Loc: ND
also i think i would remove the sticks infront of the trap and move them to the back, i remember somone called them stopper sticks not guide sticks.

or you could also put another trap, between the stick on the far bottom and the stick before the trap
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#467999 - 12/17/07 07:24 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: dogdexter1]
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Registered: 01/10/07
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i dont c if u left the pan exposed why cover the rest of the trap? just helps it freeze down in my book. if cats is what u want there then leave the whole trap uncovered. just my oppinion tho
JP
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#468131 - 12/17/07 08:26 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: jp8102]
Bruno Offline
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Registered: 08/20/07
Posts: 19
Loc: OH
Perhaps it is the picture, but it looks to me your hole is straight up and down. If so, an animal can approach the hole from any direction and look down and will not necessarily go over your trap.

Try digging your hole at a 45 degree angle. This will help guide your target animal to your trap in front of the hole.

Bruno
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#468148 - 12/17/07 08:32 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Bruno]
CodyCoyote12 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2515
Loc: virginia
If it is to sandy to hold a coyote set the ancor another way, always stake for the biggest animal. I dont think the exposed pan will work, never experimented with it, good luck looks good,.
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#468149 - 12/17/07 08:32 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: jp8102]
tuskettrapperman Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 547
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
are these for bobcats? if so then the blockings ok if not too much for coyotes and for the last one leave the trap bare and cover pan with moss to look like a moss cover rock and block more around the trap to make the covered pan more inviting.
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#468199 - 12/17/07 09:01 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: tuskettrapperman]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3147
Loc: richmond virginia
yup find another way to stake down that trap cuz if yur trying not to catch a yote at that set then that will be what you catch lol like cody said stake for the biggest critter
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#468212 - 12/17/07 09:04 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Nextyeartrapper]
nboost Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 61
Loc: Edmond, Ok
Thanks for all the advise. I am listening.
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#468394 - 12/17/07 10:50 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: nboost]
Ryan Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 51
Loc: Eastern Iowa
Only things i see i would do different is to try digging a smaller bed, you will find it a lot easier to bed the trap if the the bed is just a little big bigger than the trap. And with that sandy soild i would deffinately use a pan cover or some underall of some type. Other wise, i dont see much that i would do different.
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#468403 - 12/17/07 11:04 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Ryan]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3192
Loc: Brooklyn, Iowa 45 years old st...
I think all the info you have gotten here is very worthwhile

Edited by k9. (12/17/07 11:38 PM)
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#468439 - 12/17/07 11:38 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: k9.]
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 8405
Loc: Indiana
k9 ya thinkin just like i am .... lol .... funny how sumbody can say sumthin isnt gonna work when they havent caught a cat in their life ... or tried it themselves..... cody ... i have tried to sit back and not say a thing ... ya seem like a great kid by the lil bit of time we have talked ... and its great that ya enjoy trappin like ya do .... but im startin to think ya one of the kids that pulled sum stuff awhile back and ran a few people off .... not good .... ya say to anchor in another way .... what do ya suggest ?? as far as exposed pans ... they work ... i KNOW this .... and have seen MANY great cat trappers used exposed pans as well as traps .... not tryin to be mean ... but PLEASE fill me in
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#468446 - 12/17/07 11:43 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Gary]
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Sorry Gary didn't mean to hang you out there. I was changing my post when you posted. I am just proving that I know my place and will only be commenting on threads that concern me from now on \:\)
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#468449 - 12/17/07 11:47 PM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: k9.]
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 8405
Loc: Indiana
no prob k9 ... im gonna leave it there and cant wait to see his and his brothers video on the market in feb
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#468509 - 12/18/07 12:32 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Gary]
Dan Allen Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1217
Loc: Pennsylvania
I've never trapped a bobcat before. I didn't know you could leave the trap exposed and still catch them. I thaught the traps had to be covered like a coyote or fox set. Learn something new everyday. Are your traps just waxed? Dan
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#468597 - 12/18/07 04:25 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Dan Allen]
ratkiller5 Offline
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Registered: 01/15/07
Posts: 31
Loc: maine
i would like to start off by pointing out that he did cover the first trap as it shows in the third picture of the finished set. i cant talk for cats but coyotes i would recomend a backing of some sort. try something natural that stands out like say a chunk of wood or a white rock. this will force the animal to work the set from the trap side. it will also add a point of intrest to help draw the animal over if the wind is in the wrong direction. You probably wont be able to do much about catching coons thats part of the deal but if your getting rabbits you could try adding a little more pan tention. again i cant talk for cats but for coyotes i would get rid of the big sticks and go with more subtile ways of guiding. for example maybe one thick blade of grass in the front to step over then place the pan in make the area over your pan slightly lower then every where else. there are lots of differect variations of the dirt hole and everyone does it differently so its really about finding what works for you.

Edited by ratkiller5 (12/18/07 05:03 AM)

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#468618 - 12/18/07 06:19 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: ratkiller5]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1401
Loc: Farmerville, La
First off for cats you need to FORCE him step on your pan by either guiding or a step down. Cats will take one step look in the hole and be off they don't work sets like coyotes or fox. You have to give them one place to step and that's on your pan.

For coyotes do away with the sticks and use a step down. I've caught coyotes in cat sets with heavy guiding but that is not the norm. You should also learn how to make a flatset.

If you are worried about the anchors use drags.

Go to the archives and read up, there is a lot of good info in there.
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#468666 - 12/18/07 07:21 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: offshoretrash]
tuskettrapperman Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 547
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
To me a cat wants to step any where but the pan so like offshore said you need to force them to step on the pan. To me the exposed pan in the pic encourages the cat to step either just to the left or right of the pan whereas if you leave the trap exposed and block off outside the trap the cat can only try to step between the jaws and the pan(which they're paws are too big) or on that nice flat pan. I wish I could do the same with my coyotes set but can't, nothing erks me more than to check a coyote set and see a big cat track just to the side of the pan. Gary not to start a whizzing match, I explained my reasoning for setting the trap exposed could you explain to me the advance of just exposing the pan; to me as I said it would encourage the cat to side step it and if a coyote came along it would encourage him to dig and if he sets off the trap turn him into a digger and bug all your sets that he comes across.
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#468721 - 12/18/07 08:14 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: tuskettrapperman]
CharlesKS Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7035
Loc: Kansas,31,6-1,220,B/B NS
nboost...ill help a fellow okie...

i like everything about your sets........except...

PERSONALLY, i dont like placing sticks around my traps. what happens if an animal bumps one while working the set, and it gets between the jaws? when the trap fires, all you have is a stick...POTENTAILLY...on a cat, i dont like taking those odds.

so, IMO, what works for me, is to make the set into a WALKTHROUGH, not to heavily guided for a coyote, but will easily take the cats.

to make walkthrough, make a regular dirthole, like you did, then use whats called an OUTSIDE blocking, next to the loose jaw. a small claude, a clump of grass, anything SMALLER than your backing, to create a "Y" shape.

heres a couple pics.






notice the outside blocking?

also, for cats , get some more eye appela there, spread some feathers around the set, in the hole, etc,

your sets WILL catch coyotes and cats, but you asked to critique! \:\)

good luck!
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#468775 - 12/18/07 08:50 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: CharlesKS]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 847
Loc: TX
I think it was Ray Milligan that said "always funnel, never box. I try to make sure that I don't put any sticks in front of the trap and always on the sides and back. With sticks or other guides in front of the trap the stepping guides will many times become stopping guides.
Make sure your trap nice and steady in the bed so that if something steps on the trap in a place other than the pan, the trap won't wiggle underneath the covering.
On the uncovered trap... I would cover that trap up. I use some exposed traps on my line, but the best way to make them is if you're using a walkthru. In a cubbie set with dirt partially covering the trap I think the pan is acting as a guide to push the foot away from the pan and not onto it. Exposed walkthru's are great, but they need to be made a certain way to increase catch chances.
Good Luck!
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#468782 - 12/18/07 08:54 AM Re: Please critique my sets (pics) [Re: Lone trapper]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7035
Loc: Kansas,31,6-1,220,B/B NS
so you know im not BSing....

top pic caught:



bottom pic caught:

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