#437522 - 11/30/07 12:26 PM
Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
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Blak coyote
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1613
Loc: N.e.WI.
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I see alot of posts on here about how to go about anti-freezing land sets.
So this morning while putting in some sets I took pics of what I do.
It was 9 degrees above zero this morning when I went out with a wind chill of about -10 below,a little nippy.
Heres the lake a 1/4 mile from my house you can see how the wind is kickin' up snow on the ice.
First what I'll do is chip out the bed with a 3# chipping hammer or my 10# maul.I'll also dig a dirthole with my trowel by pounding it into the ground with my mini maul.My trowel handle is made with 3/4" round stock along with the T.It takes a beating and holds up well,the maul head is welded to a 3/4" round stock as well,with 1/4" round stock welded to the handle so it doesn't roll in my hand,and it takes some abuse as well.
Here's the frozen sod busters.
Here's the hole and the bed dug and ready to lay the steel.I use cable stakes and drive them in the center of the bed,notice the dish shape of the bed.Before bedding the trap I coat the bottom of the bed with rid ice or road runner,anything like that.It keeps things thawed out so the trap don't freeze down.
Then I'll add more dry dirt and anti-freeze to bring my bed up to bring my trap up higher.I use quite a bit of dirt and antifreeze,this gives a nice workable bed that stays thawed.
Next I'll bed the trap,notice the hollow under the trap,thats where my chain lays.
Once I have the trap bedded,I'll add more anti-freeze around the trap and push dirt under the trap to fill the void where the chain lays.The red arrows are where I'll take and tap the dirt with my hammer to firm up the trap,while tapping the dirt I'll hold the trap down with my hand on the jaws.
Then I'll lay a piece of wax paper over the pan and finish off the bed with dry dirt with anti-freeze mixed in.
A veiw from the side.A nice gob of RK's Predator Plus down the hole and a grass wad and she ready to go.
Now putting in a good set isn't gonna do you any good if your not on location.Heres some pics of the area I set.The white arrows are where I have two sets,coyotes are coming out of a logging road in the woods and crossing the road at the blue arrow,tracks are everywhere.They check out this little weed patch on there way through.
This pic shows it from the other side,the red arrows are where the traps are.When they get done checking this patch over,they head across the field in the depression and it takes them to a brush filled irrigation line,then head off into the woods about 150 yds away into the creek bottom that is there.I have traps set up there as well.
Hope you enjoy and hope it answered some questions.This is the way I do it,and you may do it alittle differently,depends on your style.My biggest thing is making a large bed so I can have a decent freeze proof bed that can be worked for the remake to come.I hope,lol.
Edited by Blak coyote (11/30/07 12:56 PM)
Edit Reason: Wrong pic
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#437536 - 11/30/07 12:41 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Andy S]
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Blak coyote
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1613
Loc: N.e.WI.
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Thanks Andy.
Tim,I always make big holes like that,some are bigger,it's about 12" deep.
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#437606 - 11/30/07 01:16 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Andy S]
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EduMan
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Registered: 11/06/07
Posts: 103
Loc: SE Iowa
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Great post.
Do you guys ever offset your dog / pan? I was taught and currently still offset to one side and also have dog facing 2 o'clock.
Is this wrong?
Thanks
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#437608 - 11/30/07 01:17 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: CharlesKS]
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PrimeTime
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 129
Loc: Minnesota
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You dug that hole in rock hard frozen ground with that shovel? 12" deep??
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#437621 - 11/30/07 01:28 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Blak coyote]
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PrimeTime
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 129
Loc: Minnesota
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I'm truly impressed. I have a desk job, my arms can't take that kind of abuse. LOL
I put in a few frozen ground traps last year and said forget this, but would like to learn how to make it more enjoyable.
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#437630 - 11/30/07 01:34 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: PrimeTime]
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Blak coyote
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1613
Loc: N.e.WI.
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I heard of some guys using a cordless drill with an auger type drill bit you would use for wood.That might work for ya,I don't know how big of drill or amps,but it would probably be a good heavy duty one to get it done.
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#437647 - 11/30/07 01:46 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Blak coyote]
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PrimeTime
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 129
Loc: Minnesota
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Preachen to the choir. I just sent RK660 a message to see if his Augers can take frozen ground. Figured I'd ask while i was thinking about it.
If so I just might put in some sets this winter.
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#437659 - 11/30/07 01:51 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: PrimeTime]
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Blak coyote
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1613
Loc: N.e.WI.
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Good Luck,I'm out the door,got to get more sets in before the storm.
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#437952 - 11/30/07 05:05 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: PAFOXTRAPPER55]
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MADTRAPPER50
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 478
Loc: Jackson cty. Wisc.
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Blak Coyote, Glad to see I'm not the only 1 who does things the hard way. lol. We make our "frozen grd sets" almost identical. The difference is that my holes are 4" dia. same depth as yours. Different lure. I never use a bait in my holes though. Usuallly a glob of gland lure on q-tip dropped into it.
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#437970 - 11/30/07 05:17 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: LineMtnCooner]
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inline50
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1144
Loc: carroll county, IL.
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archive,archive,archive,archive good idea!!!!
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#437976 - 11/30/07 05:22 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Blak coyote]
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tstuller
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Registered: 11/28/07
Posts: 25
Loc: nprth benton, ohio
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Will feed salt work for an anti-freeze? I was told the salt has
to be uniodozed. Is that true?
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#437980 - 11/30/07 05:25 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: inline50]
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Blak coyote
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1613
Loc: N.e.WI.
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MAD,I mix it up a bit,some holes get bait,some just a db of lure or just plain pee.When it's cold like this,I step it up with louder lures and bait and using a little more.Just got home from setting some more out,my old sets were still thawed and the coyotes were hittin' em',so I put traps back in some of them,won't they be surprised,lol.
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#438315 - 11/30/07 08:10 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Blak coyote]
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Silver Fox
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1136
Loc: Cent Wisconsin
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AWESOME POST!!
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#438338 - 11/30/07 08:24 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Silver Fox]
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ruger1965
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 521
Loc: N.W. Montana
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good post thanks
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#438821 - 12/01/07 08:11 AM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: ruger1965]
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Silver Fox
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1136
Loc: Cent Wisconsin
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#439230 - 12/01/07 01:13 PM
Re: Frozen ground dirthole pictorial
[Re: Silver Fox]
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RdFx
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Wisconsin
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