Water Trapping Archive


Home ~ Mission Statement ~ Trap Talk ~ ADC Forum ~ Trap Shed ~ Trap Chat
Trapper Tips ~ Links ~ Gallery ~ Basic Sets ~ Convention Calendar ~ Trapper's Humor
Fur Buyers Directory ~ Trapper's Tales ~ Words From The Past ~ Legends ~ Archives
~Catalog~

You are not logged in. [Log In] Home » Forums » Archive » Water Trapping Archive » Staking In Water
Register User       Forum List       Calendar       FAQ
Page 1 of 1 1
Topic Options
#418723 - 11/18/07 03:18 PM Staking In Water
SalinaKSCooner Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 312
Loc: Salina Kansas
How do you stake in water with a bottom of mud and sand mixture?
Top
#418727 - 11/18/07 03:21 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
deaddownwind Offline
trapper


Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 42
Loc: Mississippi
I would bring something large and heavy so the animal you are trying to trap cant move it and tie the chain to it
_________________________
Speak The Language

Top
#418728 - 11/18/07 03:21 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
trapperman_58 Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 134
Loc: Vermillion, South Dakota
i use a wood stake about 16 inch long on all the water traps and sand bottom you have to find something to wire the trap to, whether its a log,tire,root or what ever, good luck
mike
Top
#418729 - 11/18/07 03:21 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
Creektrapper Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1153
Loc: Wetumpka, AL
What kind of critters are you aiming to catch?

I usually use 24" rebar stakes. Sometimes I'll use Berkshires Soft Bottom cable stakes. There work good around beaver dams.
Top
#418739 - 11/18/07 03:28 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: Creektrapper]
LT GREY Offline
trapper


Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 5551
Loc: Central Ohio
I make what I call a "boot stake" which has a 4" square flat head as opposed to a 1/2 inch bar, such as a T-bar. It is much easier to shove in with your foot underwater. I have also used Iowa disposible stakes (or similar types), with a long driver.
One trick I have used is by using a drowner and looping it back into the bank in a u shape. Never had an animal get back to the bank. They will all be out in the current, drown! This is something I came up with for rocky creeks, where you couldn't get a stake in, if you tried.
Top
#418782 - 11/18/07 03:49 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 312
Loc: Salina Kansas
Well im going after coon but i had a beaver pull out today.
Top
#418854 - 11/18/07 04:40 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
I got into that today. Lots of good locations but I couldnt get anything to hold. I have some disposable stakes i made outa metal conduit that are eight inchs long and they work great in those mucky bottoms but i left them at home. I even tried double stakes with 24" rebar and no way it was gonna hold a beaver.
shane
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#418862 - 11/18/07 04:44 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
coonhusker Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 878
Loc: columbus nebraska
pogos
2" w/ 18" of cable.
never had a pullout w/ them.
_________________________
YOU MESS WITH ME YOU MESS WITH WHOLE TRAILER PARK

Top
#419079 - 11/18/07 06:55 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: coonhusker]
baker Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1310
Loc: south central,Nebraska
pogo's are all i use..just like coonhusker, i love them and have never had one budge a pogo. also i like it cuz if i can get a bar thru the cable, i can usually pull them out..given a little effort.
_________________________
~Evan~
"Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most"-Mark Twain

Top
#419097 - 11/18/07 07:02 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: baker]
SNIPERBBB Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 1289
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
Hard to beat a good wood stake. Kinda depends on how loose the bottom is with the sand. Else I like long t-bar stakes
_________________________

Top
#419108 - 11/18/07 07:07 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SNIPERBBB]
LT GREY Offline
trapper


Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 5551
Loc: Central Ohio
In the right condition...a T-Bar is hard to beat! ;\)
Top
#419111 - 11/18/07 07:10 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY]
SNIPERBBB Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 1289
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
true lol. Though I like to keep the weight down and wood stakes are generally lighter than rebar :P Everything has its limits.
_________________________

Top
#419113 - 11/18/07 07:11 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY]
fishdaddy Offline
trapper


Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 2494
Loc: southern W.Va.
lt grey i think ill make some ones like you mentioned with the 4 in flat stock. thanks for the tip.
_________________________
Proud member of the bucket of guts since 2004.
Fishguts is my hero..

Top
#419119 - 11/18/07 07:13 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
Pogo's were useless where i was today. Or my 24" were anyway.
shane
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#419197 - 11/18/07 07:44 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
ketchikan Offline
trapper


Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 1152
Loc: S.E. South Dakota
double staking is the way to go, get a butterfly double staking device
_________________________

Top
#419218 - 11/18/07 07:56 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: ketchikan]
Ole Hawkeye Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 2629
Loc: Oregon
A DRY wood stake will swell considerably when it is driven and be darned hard to pull.

Lt grey, tell me more about that U shaped drowner, I'm having a hard time getting my brain around it. Sounds like something I could find useful.
_________________________
Salmon will shine again!

Farmed Salmon. Dyed for you.

Top
#419233 - 11/18/07 08:02 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: Ole Hawkeye]
fishdaddy Offline
trapper


Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 2494
Loc: southern W.Va.
 Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
A DRY wood stake will swell considerably when it is driven and be darned hard to pull.

Lt grey, tell me more about that U shaped drowner, I'm having a hard time getting my brain around it. Sounds like something I could find useful.

the way i understood it was a long piece of cable from one bank to the other looped around something.
_________________________
Proud member of the bucket of guts since 2004.
Fishguts is my hero..

Top
#419267 - 11/18/07 08:19 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
The way i took it was both ends of the drowner cable was anchored to the same bank. It would hang in the middle of the cable cause it would have no tension past the middle to slide anymore. And use in current. My take anyway. ketchican, double stakes would not hold either. My creeks are dry with just a little water infront of dams. Mar up to your knees muddy. Only thing i could use today on that creek was log/drags for coon and mink, and driveing stakes thru old logs of dams to anchor snares.
shane
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#419272 - 11/18/07 08:20 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
I didnt get the boot stake though. Is the 4"x4" like a cap on the stake or welded to the side near the bottom like a fin (like the things on metal fence post)?
shane
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#419276 - 11/18/07 08:24 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
RR 3 Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 499
Loc: north central Kansas
You should be trapping about the same soil type as me (pure sand) I stake with a 48" t top rebar stake. You will lose a beaver every now and then but not very often. You should be able to push the stake in by hand without pounding.
Top
#419288 - 11/18/07 08:28 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: RR 3]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
This is sand saturated with water. Just a soupy mess I tell ya.lol. I usually trap this creek in a canoe and use weights as drowners. I walked close to a mile settin it today and never got over knee deep except when i marred up in mud.
shane

Edited by shanemoss (11/18/07 08:31 PM)
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#419296 - 11/18/07 08:31 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
fishdaddy Offline
trapper


Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 2494
Loc: southern W.Va.
 Originally Posted By: shanemoss
I didnt get the boot stake though. Is the 4"x4" like a cap on the stake or welded to the side near the bottom like a fin (like the things on metal fence post)?
shane

welded on top so you can push it in with your boot.
_________________________
Proud member of the bucket of guts since 2004.
Fishguts is my hero..

Top
#419366 - 11/18/07 08:54 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
That would make it easier to push in but it wouldnt hold any better.
shane
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#419744 - 11/19/07 06:38 AM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
TexA Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2078
Loc: Estherville, IA
I leave a Cement block on-the-spot from season to season.
_________________________
TexA
Member Iowa Trappers Association
National Trappers Association

Top
#419750 - 11/19/07 06:45 AM Re: Staking In Water [Re: TexA]
ADC Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 4444
Loc: Iowa
20" lond 1/2" or 3/4" conduit. Mashed on one end, hole on the other for attaching the trap. They are light and hold better than rebar.

~ADC~
_________________________
All new site ---> Iowa Trappers Talk



Top
#419753 - 11/19/07 06:54 AM Re: Staking In Water [Re: ADC]
shanemoss Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 789
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama
Good idea ADC. I might just try that today. thanks
shane
_________________________
POSITIVE THINKING: It's the only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a deer rifle!

Top
#419791 - 11/19/07 08:27 AM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
Nutoy Offline
trapper


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 367
Loc: East Tx
I have places like you describe around here. 48" rebar can be pulled out with one finger.
I've used those soft bottom birkshires on 36-42" of cable the last couple years with very good results. My water stake driver is 54" long just for that reason.
Top
Page 1 of 1 1


Hop to:
My Cookies · Mark all read Powered by UBB.threads™ Contact Us · Home · Top