#30747 - 01/10/07 03:51 PM
Wolverine thread/archive
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trapperjoeAK
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Here are the pics of how I cut round 5 gallon buckets to fit 330s. Piperniner, please add anything that you can think of.
What I do (for the first couple at least) is lay the 330 (set!) across the bucket and mark where the jaws cross the bucket. That is where you drill the holes about an inch back. Then cut the tabs out with a saber saw. You have to cut it for the 330. ie. Belisles won't fit in buckets cut for Bridgers. The trap is held in VERY solid. It isn't coming out without firing. No movement at all. Next time I go out, I am going to set a few of these vertically on trees like a giant plant pot and see how that works. Should be a lot more snow resistant. Otherwise, mine are getting drifted in too fast. Here is that wolverine from the bucket earlier this season. The bucket was set up under the stump at the very top of the picture.
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#30865 - 01/10/07 04:33 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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piperniner
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 586
Loc: Alaska
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Trapperjoeak : Thanks for the effort. Your ears are alittle different than mine but look good . My sets are horizontal and a few feet off the ground to be weatherproof. Trying to come up with photos to post. Thanks.
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#31162 - 01/10/07 06:11 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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martentrapper
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 479
Loc: Nome, Ak.
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What the heck good does that do me and Alaskan............we haven't got any trees to wire to!!!!!!!!!Hahaha.
Just kidding. Years ago when I was in the interior, I had wooden boxes for coni's that I used for wolverine. I set them as Joe descibied, vetical, a couple feet off the ground. Well, some I did, some I set jutting out from the tree. Vertical worked fairly well. I think NOT being able to see the bait, and NOT being able to see most of the coni, combine to make this an effective set.
Thanks, Joe
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#31203 - 01/10/07 06:20 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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trailblazersteve
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 498
Loc: Eagle River,AK
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I've read somewhere where a guy was using milk crates.Anyone ever try?
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#31209 - 01/10/07 06:21 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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trailblazersteve
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Loc: Eagle River,AK
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Alaskan is growing SOMETHING alright!
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#31252 - 01/10/07 06:31 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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otterman
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: SW Alaska
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Steve I have seen the pictures of the 330s on a milk crate someplace but do not remember where. I do recall some of the discussion being they where abit shallow in depth and thoughts led to the wolverine possibly being able to rob the baits as a result but thats just my memory not known fact
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#31284 - 01/10/07 06:39 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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trailblazersteve
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 498
Loc: Eagle River,AK
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I tried them a few years ago and found them to be pretty shallow also.Had no takers either,had lynx walking right by them.Good meeting you last night at the trappers meeting Joe!
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#31291 - 01/10/07 06:41 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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trapperjoeAK
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Same here! I think that we had a record number of forum attendees last night. 
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#31303 - 01/10/07 06:44 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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trailblazersteve
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 498
Loc: Eagle River,AK
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Great meeting you to Ted,lol.I cut out the handles also and I think they hold a 330 nicely but thought they we're just to shallow.Thought about taking the back off of one to extend them but don't have any wolverines to get excited about up at the lake.
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#31462 - 01/10/07 07:39 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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martentrapper
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 479
Loc: Nome, Ak.
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So if one crate is to shallow, couldn't you cut out the bottom of one and wire 2 together?
mt
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#31464 - 01/10/07 07:39 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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amtrapper
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 579
Loc: Hardin , Montana
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Thanks Joe and wolf for the great idea's , I've ofter wondered about how to set 330's in a set like this . Now if we had a few more wolverines in this part of the state LOL .
Best Wishes , amtrapper
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#31783 - 01/10/07 08:51 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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piperniner
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 586
Loc: Alaska
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I prefer the buckets for depth ( bait ) and secure fit. But people have done ok wiring them to a steel fence post and planting them in the high country snow , where there are no trees to set to.
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#31935 - 01/10/07 09:24 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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martentrapper
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Nome, Ak.
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Wow, piper, what an idea. Buckets on fence posts. A guy could go hog wild around here with that. A 2x4 would work great. Carry a little water to freeze in and a guy could put those ANYWHERE!
mt
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#32108 - 01/10/07 10:20 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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fishermann222
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Loc: Bethel, Alaska
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#32173 - 01/10/07 10:59 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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piperniner
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 586
Loc: Alaska
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Martentrapper : I was actually referring to crates in regards to the fence posts. The buckets forward cg is not so good on single posts. Could probably make it work though. With either container and just a foot of snow or so, you could freeze in a log like you do with log drags. Then use the log as a tee bottom for stability. If Tundra only, could freeze in some support with the water like you said. All sorts of possibilities. I'm glad I have had trees most of the time.
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#32208 - 01/10/07 11:16 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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piperniner
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Loc: Alaska
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Well I see Fish came through - Thanks Fish. The photo's show how I set app. 30" off the ground. I usually tamp the snow down with my snowshoes, or can raise the set if you need to. Two of these photo's show the set lower because I was picking them up for the season. A cable goes from the spring to up around the tree or branch. Paper wired to tree is what bait was wrapped in and it would be the same place I would put lure. Cut out ears hold the trap completely inside bucket, secure and unobstructed. It works well for me.
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#33443 - 01/11/07 06:23 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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piperniner
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Loc: Alaska
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FT : Nothing has ever touched my catch, even after frozen in for quite awhile when weather prohibited travel. Although most critters avoid these animals, something would go for it in time. In my opinion, if you set to high, you may cut down your odds. At app. 3 or 4 feet, you are accomplishing your goal of a weatherproof set . When checking, you can stomp down big snows or raise if need be. Putting cable higher up tree assures the animal is pretty much off the ground. Not so much for voles and such, but so he does not freeze in and damage guard hair when you pick him up.
Construction : Place bucket on bench open end up. Go to where bucket handle enters bucket. Directly above that point on outside lip - make a mark 3" left and 3" right of that point. Repeat procedure on other side. Now take a saber saw and cut in at the two marks at a 45 degree angle. Cut in 2" which is the first lip on most buckets. Cut other side the same way. Now cut out the 2" strips all the way around so you are left with two 6" ears. If you cut the ears 8" the trap will be tighter but to long and it's too tight. You can cut the ears whatever length you like for your preference for tightness/looseness. #14 wire is your friend for this set. You can wire a keeper to keep trap from falling forward and you will need to re-tighten everything with expansion/contraction due temp. fluctuations. Some fine tuning but this is pretty much it.
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#34106 - 01/12/07 01:42 AM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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martentrapper
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Nome, Ak.
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Here's a dual species set I use around here. A cubby type of set with bait and a trap for lynx, then a couple snaresa for wolverine. This particular set caught 2 lynx in the left hand snare a couple years ago.
If there's plenty of lynx sign, I'll snowshoe, or stomp, a trail leading away from the set, maybe 2 trails, and hang lynx snares there.
We, the pard and I, have caught wolverine in these type of sets regularly, and they often end up in both trap and snare.
mt
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#56597 - 01/25/07 02:28 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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martentrapper
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Loc: Nome, Ak.
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Piper: How weather proof is your way of setting buckets? Do you set the bucket a particular way in accordance with prevailing wind?
We get alot of sideways snow out here, I'm sure a horizontal bucket will fill with snow somehow.
mt
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#58569 - 01/26/07 02:32 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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guloboy
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
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Hey, I am a defector from the "other" forum. I am the trapper formely known as coreys. I thing I only posted 10 times or so there, mostly just watched and read. I have been reading this forum for about a month now and really like the people on it.
I have had multiple exclusive wolverine lines in the past and look forward to sharing some things I have learned. This post is to just to say hello and see if I can figure out posting pictures. Here is one of my favorite pictures and actually has a little to do with the last post. I trap up in mountainous county and it is near impossible to keep sets from blowing in where I am at, and I just accept the fact that some sets will blow in. No matter how poor the odds are a potential set will blow in, if it is on hot tracks, I typically make it.
It looks like this is previewing all right so I am going to submit it and look for some other pictures to post.
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#58862 - 01/26/07 05:55 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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guloboy
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
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I rounded up some recent photos, I hope people enjoy them.
I have caught wolverine in modified round buckets similar to the ones in the pictures that started the post. However, I saw these square buckets a few years ago when I was working in SW AK and got some for trapping. The are the perfect shape for a 330 and I think they look better as a "set" than the round buckets. Here are some pics.
BEFORE
AFTER
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BEFORE
AFTER
Here is a pic from last years final check.
Just so you know, I prefer a more natural looking set, and only use buckets when a more natural looking set is not available or would be difficult to construct, or if I am short on time. I'll post some pics of non bucket sets right after this one.
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#58892 - 01/26/07 06:07 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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guloboy
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
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So like I said, I prefer a more natural looking set. Here is a pic of a successful natural cubby set. The trap was to the right underneath the leaning tree.
Here are is another natural looking set:
BEFORE
AFTER (It got warm and the snow melted a little)
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BEFORE
AFTER (Again,it got warm and some snow melted)
Here is a pic of another one of my favorite photos:
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#59133 - 01/26/07 07:54 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
[Re: Family Trapper]
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guloboy
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
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Family Trapper:
I got the buckets from a fish processing place in Bristol Bay. I think it was Peter Pan Inc. I saw them in a catalog since then, but I cannot remember which one. If I find out, I will post the information.
I get refusals in buckets and natural cubbies, I just like the look of the natural cubby and can only assume it would work better, but I have no way of knowing that. I have just accepted the fact that not all wolverine want to stick there heads in 330's, no matter what you do to entice them.
I do have a suggestion for you though, I would not use the chain on those 330s. A 330 does not always immediately dispatch a wolverine, and the chains on those 330s are not real good. Look at it this way, a wolverine is as strong as a wolf, would you want to use that chain to hold a wolf? Also, my pictures are poor examples, but I would not suggest using 9 gauge wire either. Last year I had a 330 caught wolverine break the 9 gauge wire I had securing it to a log. It twisted and twisted and the wire broke. Amazingly, I found the wolverine close by dead. My brother had one break his 9 gauge wire also (a 330 catch), and he tracked it for miles to no avail. I am not trapping wolverine this year, but before I do next year, I am going to use 1/8 or 3/16 7x7 cable as my linkage from the trap to the tree/drag. I am also going to use some type of swivel in the linkage.
95% of the time this will be overkill, but I think it is worth doing.
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#59486 - 01/26/07 10:21 PM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
[Re: Family Trapper]
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bearbait
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 370
Loc: North Pole Alaska
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Thanks for the pictures and welcome Gulo. I very seldom have any wolverine on my line, I saw 1 track this year.
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#59654 - 01/27/07 05:35 AM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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Pete in Frbks
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 539
Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
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That question reminds me of Audrey's little experiment to see "what scent" was most attractive to the young wolverines that she was raising and studying.
We all turn ourselves inside out trying to avoid getting oil or gas on our trapping gear. So naturally, in her experiment, it turned out that AvGas was the #1 attractant.....!
Who would have thunk it?
Pete
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#59665 - 01/27/07 05:56 AM
Re: 330 Wolverine Buckets
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RECONDO
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 149
Loc: North Pole, Alaska
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Looks like this one hit a 160 set for a martin and broke the anchor wire and you tracked her down.
Is that the case or am I way off on this one?
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