#404772 - 11/08/07 09:19 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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Alan McKenzie
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: Western Australia
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Ah Ha,we peg our fox skins flat.
Al
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#404820 - 11/08/07 09:54 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 5070
Loc: McGrath, AK
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Better living DOWN UNDER than Upriver HAHAHAHA!!
Really??? Where does your drinking water come from?? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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#405380 - 11/09/07 12:24 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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rueben
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Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 161
Loc: USAF Academy Colorado
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what size of log drag should be used for wolves?
Thanks for answering my questions. I know I almost exclussively ask questions, but that is because I have very limited experince on everything but weasels
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#405474 - 11/09/07 01:42 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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I like something at least 4" diameter and 10 feet long, dry wood.
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#405493 - 11/09/07 02:09 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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otterman
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: SW Alaska
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Ken can I notice you always use dry wood is there a reason why as opposed to green? Have you found they don't chew the dry as bad ? Dry wood is seldom an option for me as I am seldom around spruce and wolves at the same time.
Edited by otterman (11/09/07 02:10 PM)
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#405504 - 11/09/07 02:23 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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trailblazersteve
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 498
Loc: Eagle River,AK
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Me too.The only thing I could think of is that a fresh cut log might send a red flag to the cute little wolfee.
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#405507 - 11/09/07 02:27 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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Hupurest
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Registered: 12/26/06
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Loc: Las anchorage
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I still don't see how it can be done with a Marten....so NO WAY a fox. I don't get how that mouth can stretch over his rump....
It does.. mink, marten, otter, fox, wolverine.
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#405566 - 11/09/07 03:24 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Yeah they have a habit of chewing down everything in sight. I think the dry wood is harder and may present more splinters consequently discouraging chewing on the drag.
Todd, I sometimes have to haul the drag for a distance . That's not a bad idea anyway as cutting one usually creates quite a disturbance. Cut it in one area, use it elsewhere.
Steve: whether it's green or dry you need to hide the cut ends. They will notice them for sure and can even tell what type of saw you used >
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#405599 - 11/09/07 04:14 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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otterman
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1504
Loc: SW Alaska
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Thanks Ken, I got the hauling them in part already doing that just may have to start looking for dry ones they always seem so light I am afraid if it warms and I loose my snow the buggers may drag them quite aways befor I come back I guess the length would slow them except if everything turned to ice
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#405630 - 11/09/07 04:52 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Loc: McGrath, AK
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The important thing is to make your attachement at the center of balance rather than the center of length. That way if they move it, the drag stays more or less at right angles to the direction of travel.
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#405668 - 11/09/07 05:15 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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trailblazersteve
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 498
Loc: Eagle River,AK
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FT-believe nothing that you read and only half of what you see,lol!
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#405676 - 11/09/07 05:20 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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Hupurest
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Registered: 12/26/06
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Loc: Las anchorage
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It says to use a green log only. And again it says Never use dead wood for a drag.
So now what are we to do?? ;0) What has been your observations?
log is different than 4" also..
How about just using the metal drags from bob green??? those things will stop a snowmachine...
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#405899 - 11/09/07 07:24 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Registered: 03/17/07
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Loc: McGrath, AK
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I have had both wolves and wolverine completely devour a drag right down to the spot the chain was attached. Those were green. I've always used dry since then with no problems.
It sure would be possible to get a dry pole with some rot in it but a guy should be smart enough to lean his weight on the thing to see if it will break.
I suspect they (the writers of the manual) prefer green because of the weight. The only way I would use green today is if the diameter was large enough so that the wolf could not get his mouth around it. Something like that though would require a small cat to haul to the site of the set.
I'll continue to use dry but others better go by the book and use green.
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#406015 - 11/09/07 08:18 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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Pete in Frbks
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 539
Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
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Grangaard is the proponent of green logs. I have used both and never found much difference in how the animal treated it. You do get some extra weight out of green, but I am more interested in the "sign" it leaves, rather than the weight.
Pete
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#406200 - 11/09/07 09:35 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Registered: 03/17/07
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Loc: McGrath, AK
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One more comment about drags. Don't clean the branches off too closely. Leave some stobs on to snag stuff and leave good sign as Pete points out. They will also keep your chain or cable from sliding around.
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#406282 - 11/09/07 10:09 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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takotna
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
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I like dry also, by the time I get a green one there after limbing and handling, it has a strong spruce smell, but I use whatever is available. Sometimes if I set one and think it may be hard to track I'll attach a old snare to the drag with another drag and double the sign. When I first started snareing wolves I was attaching some to to small of drags and one just picked it up in his mouth and walked away, he got into the hills and never got him, lesson learned!
Edited by takotna (11/09/07 10:34 PM)
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#406826 - 11/10/07 12:19 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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takotna
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
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Hey W17, I heard earlier there was a few wolves hanging out at the dump and Nora hill road, anybody connect?
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#406829 - 11/10/07 12:21 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Loc: McGrath, AK
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Not that I've heard about so far. I think some of the folks are gun shy. HAd a couple violations out that direction this year.
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#406842 - 11/10/07 12:29 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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takotna
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
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Heard about that, to bad. Maybe get back in the shower and figure out a better technique for them.  Maybe Barb will take care of them while your out on the line. 
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#406860 - 11/10/07 12:43 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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Ol' Blister
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Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 293
Loc: McGrath, Alaska
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I'm afraid there are too many locals that have dibs on the area. But I am sure going to be going along for the ride with a couple local trappers ;o)
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#407207 - 11/10/07 06:24 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 5070
Loc: McGrath, AK
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What if you catch the reflected animal? It might work. I know of guys that use the fake taxidermy eyes in the back of a cubby for cats. Then again I think about watching pets see themselves in mirrors. Some react aggressively(cats) some dogs growl and some do nothing. I actually had one look behind the mirror for the rest of the animal that he could see. Pretty smart I thought. So I don't think it can hurt and it might really make a difference.
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#408307 - 11/11/07 04:04 PM
Re: The Almighty Alaskan thread #2
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white17
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 5070
Loc: McGrath, AK
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Well this may or may not be applicable. It seems to me that humidity would be the thing to worry about. It affects rifle stocks but the thing I have seen that really shows, is in wooden clocks and toilet seats. I have seen several of these that are finger-jointed, come apart. I am pretty sure it's because of low humidity conditions in winter homes. That may not be an issue with burl. Besides, not many people sit on their game calls.
What I suspect is that different temperature and humidity will cause the tone of the call to change. Just a guess.
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