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Posted By: Andrew Eastwood

mole traps - 10/30/15 10:06 PM

I would like to get a few traps to play around with, maybe if I get proficient with them add moles to my work list. Was just wondering what some of you fellas are using or would recommend and why.
Posted By: Coondog6

Re: mole traps - 10/30/15 10:12 PM

I like the regular molenator traps.
Posted By: USMC47 🦫

Re: mole traps - 10/30/15 11:11 PM

Steve Albano's. Because they're stainless, are effective, are easy to deal with and set, and are dependable.
Posted By: Jim Bethell

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 12:00 AM

Victor "out-o-sight" mole traps for me. Because they just plain work.
Posted By: TRapper

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 12:51 AM

Over 400 moles caught this season so far in out of sights
Posted By: RF Wildlife

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 01:25 AM

Both of the above. I use Steve Albano's mostly, because they are easiest to set. They take up much less space on the truck, and have no weight to them. You can also set them up along sidewalks, and close to the road without them walking away. Down side is you have to dig them up to check. OOS work better in mulch beds for me so also carry those.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 01:37 AM

I would like to see someone take a video of setting a OOS. they just take me to long. I have had mole dig under a OOS and did not know it until I was done with the job.
Posted By: G Hanold

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 02:42 AM

I use Steve's and OoS's when the tunnels are too big for Steve's to fit tight.
Posted By: 80C

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 06:47 AM

I think it is good to have both
Posted By: TRapper

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 12:18 PM

I use oos exclusively but have also caught over 9,000 moles in 12 years with them so prob why i use em...there are some tricks to setting an oos effectively...one is making sure the plug in middle of the tunnel that the pan of trap lays on...that needs to be firm to make em work at it to try and get thru....another is having top corners of open jaws flush with top of the mole tunnel....one of biggest mistakes is not having trap deep enough
Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: mole traps - 10/31/15 03:12 PM

I use Steve's and NoMol.
Posted By: Andrew Eastwood

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 01:37 AM

Thanks for the info I just ordered a few of each will see what works best for me. Thanks again I really value your opinions.
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 03:16 AM

I always go for steves. You don't have to worry about modifying them, or using tricks, or making sure its "just right" like the out of sights. The plus to the out of sights is they're so bulky I can't lose them by the dozen.
Posted By: TRapper

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 04:53 AM

Really though the trap itself doesnt matter much at all...the location where you set your trap will be the biggest difference....i typically catch moles within the first hour after i set em....i could show you email after email or texts from customers telling me traps were already tripped within an hour of leaving their property
Posted By: OneHandSetters

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 10:57 AM

Now making new setters for the Victor "out-o-sight" mole traps.
Just sent some out for testing. will see what the outcome will be.
One Hand Setters
Dave
Posted By: Getting There

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 02:29 PM

Most of the calls I get have a lot of old damage. I would say I catch 99% of the moles in 10% of the trap I set. Next season I am cutting the time the trap will be left in the ground. I am spending to much time digging up trap in area's that are not producing moles.
Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 08:07 PM

When you consider how fast they dig the tunnels you have to expect to have a lot of damage per mole. I usually put in 6 traps/ 3 sets per job. If I have multiple pockets sometimes 1 or 2 more sets. I don't think shortening the length of time in the ground helps as much as recognizing highways and side streets. Time in ground is mostly for convenience in scheduling.
Posted By: G Hanold

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 11:42 PM

My typical job is 30+ Albano traps on first set up. I set practically anything that is long and straight. If nothing has dug past the trap in a week it gets pulled and new traps go in the new tunnels.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: mole traps - 11/01/15 11:56 PM

I gang set hard and thoroughly the first time in and monitor for add on's as needed thru the program. Then I pull after a couple checks those that aren't productive.
Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: mole traps - 11/02/15 12:01 AM

How many moles are you getting per job? On my average job I see between 1 and 3 in a yard. I don't think I'd be able to get 30 traps into these yards. Sometimes I have trouble getting 2 ideal tunnels to set on.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: mole traps - 11/02/15 12:13 AM

Did a job a year ago I caught 63 in two programs running about 10 days each. About a month apart.

15 to 20 is very common in our area for a harvest with folks that have had a problem for a few years. Those with new activity in the last few months can be 6-10. We get a lot of re inhabitation of previously occupied runs going on here when conditions are conducive.

We have a very healthy mole population. As long as it stays moist we get steady calls. Once it gets warm and the soil dehydrates a lot they stay in the landscape and tree canopy areas.
Posted By: OneHandSetters

Re: mole traps - 11/03/15 01:20 AM

New Setters
Easier, Safer, Less stress on Trap and Trapper!
One Hand Setters
Dave



Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: mole traps - 11/03/15 01:41 AM

How large are these properties? Your soil must be extremely high in organic matter in order to support so many worms! I do a lot of trapping in sandy areas.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: mole traps - 11/03/15 06:51 PM

Mostly all our jobs are loamy top soil sod areas, some surrounded by fields, woods or other residential lots are connected at the hip. Most properties range from 1-3 lots or 1/2 or so acres and more at times.
Posted By: Vinke

Re: mole traps - 11/04/15 02:13 AM

Steve Albano's
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: mole traps - 11/04/15 03:22 AM

I catch 1-3 on average in a lawn, and honestly set four traps, but really only want to set 2. The most I caught out of one property was 9 from a baseball field, then I went back later and caught one more.

Gophers on the other hand, I have caught over 40 from a soccer field and they still have a few.
Posted By: Aggie73

Re: mole traps - 11/04/15 06:04 AM

A lot also depends on the soil type, time of the year, etc. where you will be trapping moles. In softer, sandier soils, moles tend to "dig under" Steve's traps when trapping the feeding/travel runs on the surface. Steve's traps are more suitable then when trapping in the deeper runs where the tunnels and soil are more firm. Moles usually forage in these deeper tunnels in my area during extreme drought and during our meek winters when earthworms, larvae, and other insects go deeper in the soil.

The majority of my mole trapping is conducted on surface/feeding runs in sandy soils. My go to traps are the modified OOS (Elite Mole Upgrade) and the Genuine Talpex trap available only in the UK. The Talpex is a more docile scissor trap than the OOS and can be set by hand. I still use Steve's traps when moles are throwing mounds and foraging in deeper tunnels.

Posted By: G Hanold

Re: mole traps - 11/06/15 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: EatenByLimestone
How many moles are you getting per job? On my average job I see between 1 and 3 in a yard. I don't think I'd be able to get 30 traps into these yards. Sometimes I have trouble getting 2 ideal tunnels to set on.


I set on ideal first, they start looking for other spots. I've had yards where it was all sponge and you couldn't tell where the tunnels were, because it was all tunnel. Then I look for sidewalks and anything that might guide them. After that it's guessing and dumb luck, but lots of traps puts the numbers in your favor.
Posted By: TRapper

Re: mole traps - 11/07/15 12:11 AM

I love yards with all tunnels...i will hook those moles within a couple hours...the travel tunnel is always there just have to find it
Posted By: Jim Comstock

Re: mole traps - 11/07/15 01:11 AM

I got a dozen of Steve's traps and actually caught a couple of moles, first time out. Got one today, which made my day. Fun catching something new. Starting to get a little confidence.
Posted By: G Hanold

Re: mole traps - 11/07/15 02:48 PM

Am I the only one that's experiencing more dig unders this year? It seems like the moles have gotten larger. I normally use the regular size of Steve's trap, but they just aren't big enough for the tunnels I'm finding this year. I've caught a few by just laying the trap in the tunnel upside down, but the catches aren't good and have a lot of misses that way. I only had a few OoS before, but have been buying more of them as the season is going on. Any using the large size of Steve's trap to catch Eastern Moles?
Posted By: Nic Pallo

Re: mole traps - 11/08/15 12:31 AM

All I run are steves traps anymore, love em!
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: mole traps - 11/09/15 12:35 AM

One method is to set the traps upside down in the runs when dig unders are frequent.

Typically this occurs when the trap isn't seated / bedded well enough or you haven't centered the jaws to the middle of the tunnel. I believe the mole encounters the rigid end base of the jaw jointure part of the frame or the face of one of the jaws and interprets it as somewhat of an obstruction and chooses to navigate under the object. They do it all the time with rocks and roots.

By pushing down firmly on the front end of the main base frame with my tool end just behind the jaws
of the trap I get the front end of the frame below the soil grade in the tunnel. I wiggle the trap side to side at first with the front of my tool to establish the tunnel width to get it centered the best I can before seating the trap into the final seated position

(I use a dandelion tool for this as it makes the bedding of the front part of the trap jaws much easier due to its length).

With a little practice and technique the bedding comes pretty quick. Make sure you hold the push bar forward with a finger of your other hand and press down and forward with the tool all in one motion with both hands. This will get you good insertion and bedding all in one. If you get sloppy with the bedding they will dig under you a lot with Steves style traps.

Great trap though, you just need to adjust your technique a bit to deal with the moles behavior in reaction to what you do with setting your traps. I rarely use any other traps because his traps are so efficient.

I get a few dig unders occasionally however it is usually due to me being sloppy with my technique. Once I correct the problem it is there the next check.

I have done some sod cut outs from the selected tunnel area just large enough to set two traps back to back without them having a misfire due to a catch coming from one direction and disturbing the other trap. Then by imprinting the top side of the tunnel using my tool handle which is round to reform the tunnel that may have been disturbed during the cut out. This allows you to reposition the cut out with not much disturbance to the run at all. Just fit the cut out sod back into place and pinch the edges enough to keep the light and air flow out.

For those having severe problems with dig unders setting your traps where you can see exactly where the trap jaws just meet the opening of the intact tunnel and centering your trap well and press the trap frame down below grade you will mostly likely fix all your trap refusal issues by doing this if needed.

Posted By: G Hanold

Re: mole traps - 11/10/15 01:25 AM

Bob, I like the dandelion puller idea. I use one, but for probing for tunnels.
I've been working on bedding, but I don't think that's the problem this year. It seems this year the majority of the tunnels you can stick your whole hand in. I've always found tunnels this big at jobs but even at those jobs most of the tunnels were small. This year it seems that all of the tunnels at the job sites are that big.
Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: mole traps - 11/10/15 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: G Hanold
Am I the only one that's experiencing more dig unders this year? It seems like the moles have gotten larger. I normally use the regular size of Steve's trap, but they just aren't big enough for the tunnels I'm finding this year. I've caught a few by just laying the trap in the tunnel upside down, but the catches aren't good and have a lot of misses that way. I only had a few OoS before, but have been buying more of them as the season is going on. Any using the large size of Steve's trap to catch Eastern Moles?


I was having it with Steve's traps. Last year I wasn't. Going back and re examining what I might be doing different led to me using the back of my trowel instead of my fingers to get the hole large enough to get the trap in. I'll retry next year using my fingers to enlarge the hole as I'd done previously.

The trowel handle works perfectly for my other style, which doesn't have a bottom so bedding doesn't matter.
Posted By: Andrew Eastwood

Re: mole traps - 11/19/15 07:32 PM

I would like to say thanks to all who gave opinions and ideas. I have had a lot of fun the last couple of weeks trapping the moles in my test yards [my farm]. Learning something new is always fun and it is made easier with the info that can be obtained from this site.
Posted By: Chuck65

Re: mole traps - 11/21/15 07:22 PM

I use Steve Albano trap and they work great. Picture of my buddy with the Mole problem. Here in NB, Canada we have the star nose mole.

Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: mole traps - 11/21/15 10:20 PM

They have always seemed more wary, and harder to catch than the easterns. They also have a different habitat. Wetlands vs uplands.
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