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Posted By: GonzoAC

House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/09/15 02:42 PM

I have had a problem with HOSPs at my place, I have tried air guns with little success as it requires a lot time. Recently have built a trap which is working well and can be working while I take care of other things. I have caught about 8 in the last 24 hours with it. baiting with bread seems to be fairly effective. Are there other baits you all are using in these? Here is a pic of my current trap, made of some scrap plywood and wire with about 1/2 in spacing. Thanks Gonzo


Posted By: California cager

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/09/15 07:26 PM

I use dog or cat food dry not wet and sometimes chicken feed
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/09/15 11:58 PM

Thanks, will definitely give it a shot. I have plenty of dry dog food around.
Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 01:07 AM

Gonzo, you did a nice job constructing that cage. We used to shoot sparrows in the barns with .22 shotshells and a smoothbore .22

rifle. We don't have the huge amounts of sparrows like we used to, but if we get any English sparrow jobs, I'll know who to contact.
Posted By: roe

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 08:30 AM

They're now protected over here in the UK. The House Sparrow has undergone a huge decline!
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 08:58 PM

Thanks Paul!

Roe, there is no decline where I am, it is all I can hear all day at this point. i pulled into my street yesterday and watched about 40-50 take off out of the road in front of me. I admit to being fascinated by the shear numbers they have for a non-native species, but that is where my appreciation ends at this point.
Posted By: HD_Wildlife

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 09:06 PM

Funny to see someone from New England region in the states and someone from England overseas talking about a bird that is native in one hand and in decline and non native on the other and thriving!

Interesting and only available in real time thanks to the Internet and forums!
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 10:04 PM

Agreed! I would be really curious to know what has them in decline so we can make use of the info here. The research I have done says a single pair can produce up 4 times a season for a rough total of 16 new sparrows. Makes it hard to imagine them in small numbers anywhere.
Posted By: HD_Wildlife

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 10:25 PM

Off the cuff there are likely differences in native predators and factors that existed in Europe in different numbers and concentrations, natural food and habitat are other potential keys.

Though we have Hawks and Falcons and cats and various other bird predators native vs non native can alter the balance in most ecosystems.

Like many introduced species invasive nearly always do better.

Our mink raises heck over there, our beaver make problems in South America, south Americas nutria makes major problems for us, and so on..... Rats, hog, plants and insects as well....
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 10:54 PM

Sounds like a solid theory, I am not of the mindset to introduce anything new to try and get rid of these. lol.
Posted By: Kermit

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 11:06 PM

a teeter totter trap works good for sparrows. Just got to get balance rite. It just keeps working. It works for starlings too with a bit of modification of hole size



http://www.chuckspurplemartinpage.com/spartrap.htm
Posted By: LAtrapper

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/10/15 11:58 PM

Another link- https://www.sparrowtraps.net/index.html , if interested.
Posted By: roe

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/11/15 07:32 AM

Sparrows are in decline due to much less insects about in our gardens, they need insects to rear the chicks for the first 2 weeks of their lives. Also, in years gone by the sparrows had many nesting sites in our roofs. Today we are all getting UPVC facias and the sparrows sometimes struggle to find nest sites. There's other factors, but those two don't help. I have seen a marked decline over the past 25 years.
maybe you guys should live trap and ship them back over here!
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/11/15 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: roe
I have seen a marked decline over the past 25 years.
maybe you guys should live trap and ship them back over here!


If you pay the frieght I would consider it,lol.

Posted By: sgs

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/11/15 02:22 PM

For these little pests, adaptability is key. They are aggressive to other birds and can adapt like no other I've seen.

Interestingly, they do better in the city than in the countryside here in NH. With all the old mill buildings we have, any little crevice or hole is a nest site. They will eat garbage, the flies it attracts and the resultant maggots along with any seeds from untended or poorly tended areas. French fries at the fast food places are a staple food year round.

When I go into Manchester, our largest city, they are the most numerous bird, followed by pigeons.

I agree with roe that nest sites are critical to their population levels.
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/11/15 04:45 PM

My latest trap. Traps a single bird, when they step on the wire perch inside the door closes. I am currently trying some of the dry dog food, they have checked it out but not shown much interest as of yet. I tried a 1/4 of a suet cake inside the original and was much more productive with just bread. Am going to try some variety of seed mix fairly soon, but have not yet since I need to get to the store and acquire it.


Posted By: HD_Wildlife

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/11/15 06:27 PM

Gonzo,

Have you seen the small sparrow box trap supplied through bird barrier?

http://www.birdbarrier.com/item/tt-sp15/sparrow-trap-door/

Only one bird or however many are on it at the time versus the multi catch designs but one many are having good reports from. Just finished
mist netting my first group of birds in a big box store, some serious learning lessons, loving the net option!
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/11/15 09:37 PM

I have seen vids with stuff similar to these, have nt tried making one yet. Maybe soon though.
Posted By: Okie Farmer

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/13/15 01:25 PM

I made one like a quail trap except the cones pointed down and were smaller and shorter with a smaller space in the back to open and catch them. I need to build another, dog jumping on it done the one I have in.
Posted By: GonzoAC

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/13/15 02:07 PM

I like the trap door set posted by HDWildlife, took a look at the design and may try to make one. Seems to me if there were a large box below with a one way door in the bottom of the box it could be made into a multicatch setup in no time.
Posted By: trapperpaw

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/15/15 02:38 AM

I have an elevator trap and it does catch sparrows but some reason more cardinals which I release immediately. In my back yard I use the sparrow sled from WCS and keep several in a large birdcage. When I get a call for sparrows in a building I take one from my cage and put it in the sparrow sled and take it to the store it is very effective. Particularly when there is a single lonely bird. The trap that HD linked to is also very effective in a building. It and the sparrow sled are both more effective coupled with the optional sparrow chirper. The trap door will also capture starlings and robins. The robin seldom gets in a building but dried mealworms are good bait for him. Starlings and sparrows both like bread and or millet seed. Or even water if there is none available. Apples and suet are also very good for starlings.
They want the starling gone and blood could be a problem due to customers. Due to his aggressiveness and coming close to customers a big bore blow gun with stun darts will temporarily disable him allowing you to grab him.
When purple martins are out of your area hang a 12 hole purple marten house near a tree as sparrows don't mind the tree but songbirds do. Put a mouse trap inside each hole. That can be hung in a barn year round. Very effective particularly during the mating season.
An accurate pellet gun, mist nets, and glue traps need to be in your tool box also.
My post went on a tangent primarily about birds in stores but I've done all this typing so I'm posting it.
Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/19/15 01:16 AM

I love posting on Trapperman! 26 years and we never got a sparrow job; all I had to do was say that the sparrows are disappearing

around here and now it looks like a company is interested in sparrow removal. Open mouth, insert foot, get job.
Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/19/15 08:52 PM

I didn't get the sparrow job. The manager didn't think they were doing enough damage to warrant removal. Apparently they're all constipated.
Posted By: trapperpaw

Re: House sparrows/HOSP trap - 07/22/15 06:20 AM

Hold your cards Paul he's shopping around. If he gets a cheap job he'll be back to get a good job. If people are just starting to try to do something about birds they don't realize the complexity of the solution and can't accept what it cost to do a good job with birds.
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