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Posted By: Muddawg

Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 12:55 PM

Yet another call came in last night from someone who thought I'm supposed to go out to their house, aces their problem and remove the offending ground hogs for free!

They get my number from Animal Control and think that I'm a service provided by the county. Or when they get my number from the states website, then I'm a service of the state.

That's irritating!

They are ready for me to get out there, right now and do something! Then when they find out it's gonna cost money, they back up and say, "Uh.... We'll call you."

What's the deal? You've either got a problem or you don't! Does the problem magically disappear when money is involved? If I WERE a service of the state or county, I think it would cheese me off to have someone waste my time like that!

Do any of y'all have this problem?
Posted By: John Pearson

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 01:13 PM

I feel your pain. It happens to us all the time.

I especially like when people call on the weekend, or late at night (because animal control is closed) to report a stray dog in the yard that's "menacing the kids", or a deer that's been hit by a car.

It's particularly gratifying to know that they just clicked on one of my ads, costing me $$, and didn't read the "Call For a Free Quote!" part.
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 01:42 PM

Yeah, I love it when they call and say something like "Oh! Mister Wildlife Man. I just saw a fox walk across the corner of my back yard in the daylight!

And I'm like "Uh.... Okay?"

It amazes me at times how little people actually know about some of these things. I mean people who should know. People who have lived in the country all their lives and freak out when they see a fox?

I actually had a guy call me once about squirrels in his pecan tree. First he thought I was a free service. After he found out I charge for services, then he wants to know what he can do himself to take care of the problem.

In questioning him, I learned that he lives out in the country and owns a shotgun... And this was the middle of squirrel season. What does he need me for?
Posted By: Robb Russell

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: John Pearson
"Call For a Free Quote!" part.


John You will have less problems if you remove the word FREE from your web site.

The words "animal control, dog or cat " are like two edged swords .If you don't want that this type of call do not use these words on a web site even if you just say we do not do any dogs or cats ever Substitute that you offer no domesticated animal services you will get less by not suggesting your company in google, bing or yahoo searches by omitting these words. When you use these words you are actually optimizing your web site for those words and get traffic you expect not expecting ; like free animal control because search engines pair up combinations of words you use on your page and compare them to searches.

There is a mind set when it comes to the two verbs "control" and "remove" . We call animal control thinking its FREE but folks are more willing to pay to have something removed. My point is control=free and remove=pay .

As far as odd calls I get plenty of them. I even get the distress calls from boaters having trouble on the water because the game wardens handle that too and human error is pretty regular on the part of the Local 911 Call Center.

The worst one was a cardiac arrest and all I could offer was call the operator again. I have had three calls in the middle of the night to see If I can come over and deliver some cows and goats.

I moved from a population of 750,000 to all the joys of Rural America !

As far as people calling about using our services I always work in very quickly how they plan on paying for our services today!
It is very rare that I start up the truck without some pre-arrangement for the anticipated services and payment expected.
Posted By: John Pearson

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 02:11 PM

Good point Robb.
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 02:17 PM

I ran a squirrel call once. The house was in foul shape. Leaks in the roof had promoted wood rot in an outside wall right where two roof lines joined at the valley. The wall had deteriorated to the point that one of the roof lines had dropped a good 8 inches opening a hole nearly a foot in diameter. The decking underneath the shingles was gone completely in an area of about a foot in diameter and the decking that was left was rotted for another 5 feet up.

I decided that there was little I could do for them until they got their roof fixed. When explaining to the lady that she had more serious problems than a squirrel she suggested that I should start repairing the roof right away.

"Sorry, Mam. But I can't fix your roof."

"Yes, you is! I pays my taxes!"

Wait a minute.... Taxes? Oh, great! I can see where this is going. No... I did NOT get paid for that call.
Posted By: ponyboy

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Muddawg
Yet another call came in last night from someone who thought I'm supposed to go out to their house, aces their problem and remove the offending ground hogs for free!

They get my number from Animal Control and think that I'm a service provided by the county. Or when they get my number from the states website, then I'm a service of the state.

That's irritating!

They are ready for me to get out there, right now and do something! Then when they find out it's gonna cost money, they back up and say, "Uh.... We'll call you."

What's the deal? You've either got a problem or you don't! Does the problem magically disappear when money is involved? If I WERE a service of the state or county, I think it would cheese me off to have someone waste my time like that!

Do any of y'all have this problem?


When I get calls that say they got my number from the police or sheriff Dept. I usually say. Yes, I do that type of work, but I am a private contractor who gets referals from the departments and I charge a fee to remove animals. It is part of the job and I don't sweat it. And I do get a lot of work from such calls. Because they will say, if the police dept. reccomends me that is a good referal.
Posted By: Robb Russell

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 03:37 PM

This thread seems to be about salemanship

If you want to Get Paid for every service call pre qualify your customer on the first phone call.

You are never gonna stop these odd calls but you can think about a strategy to increase sales conversions from dead calls when you get them.

Do they have the ability to pay?

I have had plenty of friends, neighbors and family members pay for a customer's services. If they really need the service you will be helping them find a way to hire you and solve a problem. Don't be afraid to suggest if other people can help them right now.

Are they on the mind set it ought to be free ! If this person really has a problem and nothing free exists they will need to decide to hire someone and that someone could be you or they simply decide to see if it goes away.

Be nice. Be polite . Tell them you will be fair and not overcharge them and mean it!

Show interest and concern. Follow up with a call to see if they solved their problem.
Posted By: dspree

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 03:59 PM

I had a lady call wanting me to remove a family of raccoons from a wall in her house. It was bad enough that the urine was soaked through the sheet rock into the living area of the house. when I told her that I charged for my services she said that she would just leave the coon there.
Posted By: NE Wildlife

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 04:02 PM

I love the people usually a women that says so
Your not going to help this poor bird your just going
To let it suffer! I say no you are the one letting it
Suffer bc you won't pay me to take care of the problem
Posted By: Peskycritter

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 05:10 PM

Lady called last week said theres a dove that got hit by car that needs help . I ok I will help and it's 110.00 to have me come out . She said this is no joke mister . This bird really needs help . I know lady but I need money to drive out . I asked where it was , told her my gas is not cheap . She got all mad and said I will never call you again and hung up . And there called animal lovers . That's the joke
Posted By: andyva

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 09:11 PM

I love the ones that go to the farm supply store, buy a trap, catch the animal and then wan't me to come "get it" for free because after all, thats what I do. Those people usually end up relocating the animal a mile away, unless it's a skunk.

It's like telling a plumber if you come get this hairball out of my drain I'll let you keep it.
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Peskycritter
She got all mad and said I will never call you again and hung up.

If you're lucky, she won't.
My personal fave is the one where they get all cute and friendly because they want to pick your brain so they can do it themselves.
Posted By: Robb Russell

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 09:57 PM

Originally Posted By: andyva
It's like telling a plumber if you come get this hairball out of my drain I'll let you keep it.


I am gonna have to remember that line Andy!
Posted By: 22mag

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 10:15 PM

Awesome thread!
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 11:23 PM

Never use the word free in any ads or you will run into alot of calls such as that.We dont do free anything.

We charge $75.00 for all inspections or on site consultations, then all subsequent bids are free.As soon as the caller starts asking advice I ask for a credit card number and quote them a per min. fee of $1.50. Most of the calls are quick and only the serious callers will give their credit card info.Information is valuable and not for free.Do you call a doctor for self medication and treatment without a fee?
Posted By: Phil Nichols

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/19/12 11:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
Never use the word free in any ads or you will run into alot of calls such as that.We dont do free anything.

We charge $75.00 for all inspections or on site consultations, then all subsequent bids are free.As soon as the caller starts asking advice I ask for a credit card number and quote them a per min. fee of $1.50. Most of the calls are quick and only the serious callers will give their credit card info.Information is valuable and not for free.Do you call a doctor for self medication and treatment without a fee?


Edith says hi. She is mad at me for all the time I spend on the phone giving out advice. I mean she is really mad. Did you ever think about a 900 number?

Most Doctors are on an automated system here - can't get them live on the phone, unless he has a groundhog problem.
Posted By: ratbrain

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 12:22 AM

Some of my calls come via a reference through the local police department.
They think I am an employee of the city and SHOULD remove the animals (or birds) for free because they pay taxes.
When I tell them there is a fee, there is silence on the other end with I'll get back to you.
BUT I did have an elderly lady insist I take more money than I quoted her because she was so happy to get rid of mom raccoon and her young ones.
Posted By: Peskycritter

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 01:19 AM

Tips are always welcome my record is 100 bucks . My kids get tips like daily
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 01:19 AM

I once had a guy call me wanting to know how much I charged to hook up a mobile home.(plumbing)

When I told him what it would cost he got quiet, then started asking a bunch of specific questions about the hook up. I finally got mad and told him that if he wanted me to do it, fine. But if I gave him any more answers, I would charge him a service call.

He said, "Thank you." and hung up.

As far as my ADC business, I don't have a web site. I wouldn't have a clue as to how to create one.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 01:42 AM

Try doing honeybees with the current "save the bees" hype.
Posted By: RF Wildlife

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 01:43 AM

Getting a site up is simple, getting it on the front page of google, bing, yahoo is the tough part.
Posted By: Lundy

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 03:00 AM

For a FEE, there are lots of people that can make you a site (;


Sorry, couldn't resist.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/20/12 10:46 AM

I get the same from the county animal control referrals. I will go help the lil ole lady's tho. I get alota animal rescue calls.
Posted By: Dave Schmidt

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Muddawg
I ran a squirrel call once. The house was in foul shape. Leaks in the roof had promoted wood rot in an outside wall right where two roof lines joined at the valley. The wall had deteriorated to the point that one of the roof lines had dropped a good 8 inches opening a hole nearly a foot in diameter. The decking underneath the shingles was gone completely in an area of about a foot in diameter and the decking that was left was rotted for another 5 feet up.

I decided that there was little I could do for them until they got their roof fixed. When explaining to the lady that she had more serious problems than a squirrel she suggested that I should start repairing the roof right away.

"Sorry, Mam. But I can't fix your roof."

"Yes, you is! I pays my taxes!"

Wait a minute.... Taxes? Oh, great! I can see where this is going. No... I did NOT get paid for that call.

It's a sad comentary on society when a homeowner thinks that somebody else should fix the roof she neglected.
Very good info., Robb.
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 04:13 AM

Just got a call today! The man said he saw two small fox(pups) go under his shed. When he found out that I charge for my services, he tried to bargain with me by telling me I could keep the fox.

I asked "Have they done any damage?"

"No. But I have a small dog. They might kill him.":/

I informed him that I could not legally take them with out proof of damage. He got mad at me and asked "Then what am I supposed to do?!"

I told him to leave them alone and their mama would come by tonight and pick them up.
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 04:19 AM

Oh. I love it when I get the threatening phone call.

You know. The one where they tell you what you had better do or else?

"If you don't come out here and get him then I'm gonna get my shotgun and shoot it!" I've been told that or something similar 3 times in the past 2 weeks!

So, if I don't stop what I'm doing and come to your house right now and possibly perform an illegal act with no pay, then you are gonna do something illegal yourself?"

I think I'm going to start giving these peoples name and phone number to the game warden.
Posted By: Probtrapper

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 04:27 AM

EVERYTIME and I mean EVERYTIME we get a call from a new customer the first sentence on our end goes something like this: "Yes we do that type of work but we are a private company and we charge for our work." That either ends the conversation there or we end up with a paying customer.
Posted By: Peskycritter

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 04:44 AM

It's been getting kinda bad with the how much the past two days .
..
Posted By: wiggler

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 12:09 PM

I went down to the local animal shelter and had a talk with those guys about TELLING people im a private business. They agreed and now when someone calls they tell them up front that i Do Not work for the state or county and that i charge for my service. My local Animal Shelter guys send me a lot of business.. and all they ask of me is to drop them off some Pepsi once in a while... lol I can do that.
Posted By: hvtrapper

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/21/12 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Probtrapper
EVERYTIME and I mean EVERYTIME we get a call from a new customer the first sentence on our end goes something like this: "Yes we do that type of work but we are a private company and we charge for our work." That either ends the conversation there or we end up with a paying customer.
Posted By: Just_starting

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/23/12 09:48 PM

How can i get involved in adc work?
Posted By: LAtrapper

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/23/12 10:03 PM

1. Board Rules- Your location must be displayed in your profile. As a minimum, you need to show your state or province.
2 Check the ADC Archives for starting and pricing.
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/24/12 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Just_starting
How can i get involved in adc work?


It starts with knowledge.

Learn all you can about every type of critter you have in your area and then some. Learn as much as you possibly can about birds, mammals, reptiles, fish and insects. You'll need to know what critters are natural to your area, which ones are moving in and which ones are disappearing. You'll have to know what is endangered, what is threatened and what is plentiful.

Learn something about home construction. You'll need some working knowledge of structures and how they stand and breath. Knowledge of residential and commercial construction will help you to determine where to look for critters, how to exclude them and how to seal, patch and repair what damage they cause.

The more trapping experience you have, the more it will help. I do more exclusion and prevention than I do actual "removal" of critters. You will find yourself more of a "Conservationist" than an actual trapper.

Then get yourself certified. We, here, have to take a two day course, offered by the sate Wildlife Recourse Commission.

Then advertise a little and do what you tell your customers you'll do.
Posted By: chas3457

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/24/12 05:35 PM

Muddawg, That is in the 'top ten' of the SMATREST things I have ever read on here. It is very good advice indeed.

Charlie
Posted By: Muddawg

Re: Yes! You Do Have to Pay Me! - 06/24/12 10:11 PM

More to the point,

I trapped for about 13 years before I got my WDCA certification. Then I continued trapping and learning for another three years or more BEFORE I actually started my ADC business.

Still, I read, search the internet, attend trapping classes, watch wildlife videos, watch wildlife in the field, talk with other ADC agents, talk with other trappers, talk with game wardens and joined my local trappers association.

Every chance I get to learn more, I take full advantage of it. I've even had my game camera set up throughout the year to see how habits may change with the seasons. I also learn what I can about species that aren't even in my area yet. If there is a new critter heading my way, I know about it before it gets here. Case in point: Armadillos are headed our way. By the time they get here I'll know where to look for them, what they eat, why they dig, their breeding habits and how to catch them.

That's what it takes to stay ahead of the game. That's how I intend to have an edge over my competitors. That's how I'm gonna look like the experienced expert on the very first armadillo call.

Even with all the knowledge I have, I still have MUCH to learn. You'll NEVER know it all but you need to know all you can!
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