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#4 Victor stamped jaw?

Posted By: Rats Nest

#4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/11/22 05:32 PM

I just completed my set of Victor Stamp jaw traps this weekend. I have the #1, #1.5, #2 and #3. I have heard rumors of the #4 existing but most i talk with say that victor did not stamp the #0 or #4. Can anyone verify the existence of the #4 stamp jaw? Any idea what year these were made?
Posted By: snakecollector

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/11/22 11:39 PM

There is not a #0 and I have not seen a #4. But, there are three #1 long spring variations, regular and short wide spring as well as a stop loss. Then, there is a #1 Oneida Jump with "Victor" and one with "Jump" on the jaws. And, don't forget the Gibbs, Two Trigger with "Victor" on the jaws, this is likely the trap that started it. Animal Trap Company bought out Gibbs in 1936 and acquired the stock on hand as well as trap parts. It would be likely that ATC stamped "Victor" on the jaws to brand the Gibbs traps before selling them. That would also give an approximate date to the marking. Victor long springs with the "Victor" stamped jaws have spot welded crosses, some with riveted pans and some with spot welded pans. Spot welding the cross replaced the rivet in 1937 and was started on the pans, not long after that. I would say that the "Victor" stamp on the jaws was done around 1936 to 1938-39, possibly longer and maybe for several short periods.
Posted By: Rats Nest

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/12/22 01:00 PM

Thanks for the information snakecollector! Sounds like I have some more hunting to do for the others..... never heard of the stoploss being stamped, would that be the old narrow square pan stoploss i would be looking for?
Posted By: ddfen2

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/12/22 03:32 PM

Here is my Victor Stoploss with Victor stamped in jaws [Linked Image]
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Posted By: Rats Nest

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/12/22 08:42 PM

VERY Nice! now i know what i am looking for...
Posted By: 4zebra61

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/12/22 10:37 PM

Nice trap!
Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/13/22 01:15 PM

Really nice trap. Thanks for showing.
Posted By: 160user

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/14/22 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by snakecollector
There is not a #0 and I have not seen a #4. But, there are three #1 long spring variations, regular and short wide spring as well as a stop loss. Then, there is a #1 Oneida Jump with "Victor" and one with "Jump" on the jaws. And, don't forget the Gibbs, Two Trigger with "Victor" on the jaws, this is likely the trap that started it. Animal Trap Company bought out Gibbs in 1936 and acquired the stock on hand as well as trap parts. It would be likely that ATC stamped "Victor" on the jaws to brand the Gibbs traps before selling them. That would also give an approximate date to the marking. Victor long springs with the "Victor" stamped jaws have spot welded crosses, some with riveted pans and some with spot welded pans. Spot welding the cross replaced the rivet in 1937 and was started on the pans, not long after that. I would say that the "Victor" stamp on the jaws was done around 1936 to 1938-39, possibly longer and maybe for several short periods.


Maybe Digger Dale can post a picture but there was also a Victor stamped SPRING at least in a 1.5 LS.
Posted By: ddfen2

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/14/22 02:49 PM

Here is a Victor # 3 with Victor stamped in top of jaws. I know they are hard to find how many other collectors have found one?? [Linked Image]
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Posted By: DiggerDale

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/15/22 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by ddfen2
Here is a Victor # 3 with Victor stamped in top of jaws. I know they are hard to find how many other collectors have found one??

I had a #3 but someone etched their social security number on the base. At the time many #1s, 1 1/2s and 2s had passed through my hands so I thought a #3 was probably fairly common also.. I sold it pretty cheap figuring I would upgrade to a better one... Haven't seen another since...
Posted By: DiggerDale

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/15/22 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by 160user


Maybe Digger Dale can post a picture but there was also a Victor stamped SPRING at least in a 1.5 LS.

I don't think this relates to the stamped jaw Victors but an interesting spring none the less.... [Linked Image]
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Posted By: mike mc murray

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/15/22 07:48 PM

First time I ever seen a spring stamped like that digger..there's a first time for everything
Posted By: ddfen2

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 09/17/22 12:04 PM

Going to have to keep a eye open for that stamping . Thanks for showing DiggerDale
Posted By: ddfen2

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 12/18/22 02:41 PM

Here is a Oneida Jump Victor No 1 with Jump stamped top of jaws [Linked Image]
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Posted By: ddfen2

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 03/07/23 03:18 PM

Here is a Victor No 2 with Victor stamped [Linked Image]
on jaws
Posted By: kevtrap

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 03/07/23 10:15 PM

On the 1 1/2 and 2's there is also a difference in the letter R. Some of them are longer than others. The number 2 posted above appears to be the long R. The short R is more like the one on the stop-loss posted at the top. I have a picture of both side by side, but haven't been able to post a picture.
Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 03/08/23 10:04 AM

That's a purdy trap.
Posted By: CountryCletus

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 07/09/23 06:56 PM

Upon stumbling upon this thread, I now have a new set of traps I’d like to start collecting. I know this isn’t the place to buy and sell- but I believe this is a better target audience for this request… if I don’t get many reply’s or PM’s, I will create a WTB in the Trap Shed. If any of you fine trap collectors have duplicates of any of these traps with stamped jaws, whether it’s the Victor stamp or the jump stamp and you’re willing to sell it/them, please reach out to me.
Posted By: cohunt

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 07/10/23 08:33 AM

Great set of photos. If any one can add to this thread with additional variations it would be of historical value and appreciated.
Posted By: snakecollector

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 07/11/23 10:57 PM

For reference, here are Victor and Jump stamped jaw traps that I have.
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#1 stop loss short wide spring, #1 short wide spring and regular long spring
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#1 1/2, #2 and #3 long spring
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#1 Oneida Jump stop loss "VICTOR" jaws, #1 Oneida Jump stop loss "JUMP" jaws and #1 Oneida Jump "JUMP" jaws
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Gibbs Two Trigger with "VICTOR" stamped jaws
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Posted By: CountryCletus

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 07/13/23 03:19 PM

WOW!!! Now THIS ^^^^ is what I'm trying to put together!!
Posted By: ddfen2

Re: #4 Victor stamped jaw? - 01/06/24 12:31 PM

Looking for a # 1 Oneida Jump Stop Loss with VICTOR stamped on jaws in fine condition.Send PM Thanks Don
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