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Posted By: Nittany Lion

Number 0 traps - 09/25/19 11:12 AM

I have about 60 number 0 traps hanging in the fur shed. Most of them are Victor's and some are Blake and Lamb. I have never really looked at these traps and if I were to start looking closely what should I look for? I guess I am asking are there some valuable number 0's or are they about all the same.
Posted By: Okiecntry

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/25/19 02:00 PM

I have a pretty good collection of 0 traps. If they are in good condition you could very well have some worth more than user prices but not too much unless you have some really old ones. I have seventeen different Victor longsprings listed with five that I don't have. I'm sure there is more than seventeen but that is what I have listed. Made in Canada is generally a little harder to find. Little things like the different patent and warranting stamps and those that don't have any are some of the variations. You have the newest OC Woodstream solid pan, newer ATC and the older OC. Then you have the different jaws including regular cut, ribbed jaws, and older cast jaws. Oh yeah, lets not forget the different chains. LOL Then you have special marked commemorative traps like the 40th FTA anniversary, etc. When they start getting older you switch form humped cross to straight cross and then even a dogless that I don't have.

There is at least a half dozen different B&L longsprings and the same for jumps.

I have eight different Oneida "V" jumps listed.
Posted By: 160user

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/25/19 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Okiecntry
I have a pretty good collection of 0 traps. If they are in good condition you could very well have some worth more than user prices but not too much unless you have some really old ones. I have seventeen different Victor longsprings listed with five that I don't have. I'm sure there is more than seventeen but that is what I have listed. Made in Canada is generally a little harder to find. Little things like the different patent and warranting stamps and those that don't have any are some of the variations. You have the newest OC Woodstream solid pan, newer ATC and the older OC. Then you have the different jaws including regular cut, ribbed jaws, and older cast jaws. Oh yeah, lets not forget the different chains. LOL Then you have special marked commemorative traps like the 40th FTA anniversary, etc. When they start getting older you switch form humped cross to straight cross and then even a dogless that I don't have.

There is at least a half dozen different B&L longsprings and the same for jumps.

I have eight different Oneida "V" jumps listed.



But do you have a full dozen #0 jumps from the 20's or 30's in the factory, unopened box with a Sears and Roebuck shipping label?
grin
Posted By: Okiecntry

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/25/19 04:37 PM

""""But do you have a full dozen #0 jumps from the 20's or 30's in the factory, unopened box with a Sears and Roebuck shipping label?
grin"""""

I do not, but I can send you my address if you need to get rid of them. You know they are not much good if you can't see them. LOL
Posted By: 160user

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/25/19 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Okiecntry
""""But do you have a full dozen #0 jumps from the 20's or 30's in the factory, unopened box with a Sears and Roebuck shipping label?
grin"""""

I do not, but I can send you my address if you need to get rid of them. You know they are not much good if you can't see them. LOL


Good point. Maybe the box of 1.5's and 0's have bricks in them. I better rip them open tonight and inspect them. Maybe they will even have the Ontario address on them.
Posted By: Muskrat Love

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/26/19 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Okiecntry
""""But do you have a full dozen #0 jumps from the 20's or 30's in the factory, unopened box with a Sears and Roebuck shipping label?
grin"""""

I do not, but I can send you my address if you need to get rid of them. You know they are not much good if you can't see them. LOL


Good point. Maybe the box of 1.5's and 0's have bricks in them. I better rip them open tonight and inspect them. Maybe they will even have the Ontario address on them.


160user,

I remember, many years ago. that someone had an unopened box of Oneida 0 jumps for sale on this site. If I'm correct, he was selling them for $1,200.00 if I'm not mistaken. 35 years ago I sold an unopened box of Oneida 0 for a $100.00 and thought I was "poopin" in the high cotton.

My best story however, is the guy I bought two dozen BRAND NEW #14 Oneida Jumps from...... I asked what he did with the boxes....He responded with, "Well I wanted to make sure there were traps in the unopened boxes, so I ripped them opened and burned up the boxes."

Nittany Lion,

I'm thinking an 0 LS, with the SHORT SPRING is rare. An advanced collector on this site is looking for a clean one!

I think the little 0 traps are a great trap,to specialize in collecting. Did anybody ever market an 0 Stoploss in a LS or Jump?


Posted By: 160user

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/27/19 10:44 PM

Geez I only wanted $300 for my dozen NIB #0 jumps.
Posted By: snakecollector

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/29/19 04:35 PM

Okiecntry, "When they start getting older you switch form humped cross to straight cross and then even a dogless that I don't have."


They are hard to find.
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Posted By: cohunt

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/29/19 07:48 PM

Dean: Thanks for the photo of the great dogless "THE VICTOR" with the Wright Patent tree spike. Would you also post a pic of its dogged mate?
Posted By: snakecollector

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/29/19 09:16 PM

Jim, There are actually 5 models of "THE VICTOR" trap, before Oneida Community dropped "THE" and just called it a "VICTOR". Here are the other 4 models.

Here is the most common model, cast pan dog model with '86-'87 patent dates.
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Here is the first model, cast pan with "TRAP" on the pan, '1886 patent date on bottom of base, before the Jan.25, 1887 patent.
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Here is the fourth model, riveted pan, same pan shank that attaches to the base.
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Here is the fifth model "THE VICTOR", riveted pan on a post. I have never seen an #0 in this model but I have a #3 and #4.
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Posted By: cohunt

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/29/19 11:28 PM

Thanks Dean: Great pics and traps. More information there than in any book. Lots of variation in a brief period. My 0 Victor with the Wright patent tree spike has a Kenwood swivel instead of the cast swivel seen on yours. Guess that would make mine a bit newer.
Posted By: Okiecntry

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/30/19 02:03 PM

Dang guys! You have some nice old 0's there. Those are way above user prices!!!!!
Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/30/19 04:22 PM

I have one Victor #0. with "Warranted" stamped on the pan. The "Warranted" stamp dates the trap, but I
Have forgotten what that date is. I think they had a bad run on jaws or springs and the "Warranted" stamp was to assure
the problem had been addressed. While probably not rare, just different.
Posted By: snakecollector

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/30/19 05:47 PM

Oneida Community started advertising the "Warranted" pan Victor traps in 1910, when they started cutting the "V" in the pan. They also advertised the Newhouse traps as warranted or guaranteed but never marked the Newhouse pans with "Warranted". I believe that it was just a competitive advertising idea.

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Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: Number 0 traps - 09/30/19 08:31 PM

I like my story better. grin Thanks for the old catalog picture. I have a different #0 Vic catalog pic on
the back of one of the TRAPS issues.I'm going to include it when\if I sell the trap.
Posted By: Nittany Lion

Re: Number 0 traps - 10/24/19 11:37 AM

Thanks for all the replies. I've been somewhat immobilized since the beginning of the month and haven't checked what I have yet. I appreciate all of the responses.
Posted By: nightlife

Re: Number 0 traps - 10/26/19 12:37 AM

Herter 0 are worth more then user price
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