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Posted By: Mira Trapper

Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 02:13 PM



In this time of video trickery , it is very important to avoid such people such as Shannon Keith. Her style is about as sneaky as Michael Moore's. If any one wants to film you on the trap line or in the trap shed get confirmation that you are dealing with somebody that isn't out to destroy you.


Striking at the Roots
Shannon Keith Raises the Bar on Animal Activism
September 8, 2008
http://strikingattheroots./shannon-keith-raises-the-bar-on-animal-activism/

Shannon Keith is a Los Angeles-based attorney and filmmaker, perhaps
now best known for her powerful 2006 documentary Behind the Mask,
which introduced audiences around the world to the activism of the
Animal Liberation Front. In 2004, she started a non-profit group
called Animal Rescue, Media & Education (ARME). ARME rescues homeless
animals and focuses on stopping the problem at its roots through
educational initiatives, including making documentaries about animals
and animal activists.

In court, Shannon has represented such animal activists as Kevin
Jonas, SHAC and Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. She is now working
on her second documentary. Although I knew of Shannon and her work on
behalf of animals and activists, I was able to learn from her
firsthand at the Let Live conference in Portland last June. Shannon is
a dedicated animal activist with a valuable perspective on the
movement.

SHANNON, WHAT NEWS CAN YOU SHARE ABOUT YOUR NEXT FILM?

Skin Trade is going to be slightly different than Behind the Mask in
the sense that it will be geared toward a greater spectrum of people.
Skin Trade will have all new experts, new footage, activists and
celebrities talking about the fur industry. The message of the film,
which is anti-fur, will really hit home because of the emergence of
fur in the fashion industry in the last couple of seasons. Even though
the film is anti-fur I am going to show both sides of the fur issue —
something that I think will add credibility and strength that will be
undeniable to the average "Joe" on the streets watching an animal
rights film.

IT SOUNDS COMPELLING. WHEN WILL THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO SEE IT?

Oh, it's not done yet. We expect it to be completed by January 2009.

YOUR ACTIVISM SEEMS TO HAVE TWO MAIN PRONGS: YOUR WORK AS AN ATTORNEY
DEFENDING ANIMALS AND ACTIVISTS, AND YOUR WORK AS A FILM PRODUCER OF
DOCUMENTARIES. HOW DO THESE TWO INFLUENCE EACH OTHER?

As far as being an animal rights attorney, the documentaries help
explain to the general public and even individuals in the movement
what it is I do, and who I defend. With regards to Behind the Mask, it
really seemed to clear the air not only on who or what the ALF is
about, but why I defend direct action activists. The media and
government unjustly call them "terrorists," and as their defense
lawyer I get labeled one as well. A lot of people would ask why I
defend such "violent domestic terrorists," but after watching the
movie the subject seems to be much clearer to them. With Skin Trade, I
hope to have the same result but more so with my other clients, the
animals. I want to portray the cruel realities of fur but target it to
the general public. Hopefully, it will be clear why it is that I chose
a career defending animals.

NOW THAT BEHIND THE MASK HAS BEEN OUT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT HAS
THE IMPACT BEEN?

The impact has been tremendous. I cannot even begin to explain the
extensive ground it covered. Behind the Mask really hit home to the
people already in the animal rights community and sparked almost this
euphoric passion in them. The progress we make for the animals is slow
and sometimes we lose some activists and the film really seemed to
rekindle that fire we all share. The impact the movie had on the
average citizen, not into animal rights, was equally as great. I get
emails all the time about how it changed people's lives and helped
them become vegetarian, adopt a cruelty lifestyle, go vegan, stop
purchasing animal-tested products or how wrong they were about the
ALF. It's amazing!

BEHIND THE MASK ARGUES THAT PEACEFUL ACTIVIST TACTICS LIKE WRITING
LETTERS DON'T WORK — THAT DIRECT ACTION IS REALLY WHAT BRINGS CHANGE
IN SOCIAL JUSTICE MOVEMENTS. DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ANY ABOVE-GROUND
STRATEGIES ACTIVISTS CAN DO TO EFFECTIVELY ADVOCATE FOR ANIMALS?

Yes, I do. But I believe they have never worked alone; meaning, when
we have seen change happen through protest, it has been because there
were more radical factions working in conjunction with above-ground
activists, whether known or unknown. In fact, I believe it is
imperative that for the underground actions to be effective there are
above-ground campaigns in place at the time. I still believe in
traditional protest activity, as well as trying to change the law
through the legislative process.

People who are not willing to do any of these things can simply
boycott animal cruelty, by not spending their money supporting these
companies and industries.

I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AT THE LET LIVE
CONFERENCE IN PORTLAND; I WAS ESPECIALLY SURPRISED TO HEAR YOU SAY
POLICE WILL LIE TO ACTIVISTS WHEN CONFRONTING THEM. WOULD YOU EXPAND
ON THAT A BIT?

Police and FBI, and any other law enforcement for that matter, are
allowed to lie. They are allowed to tell you that if you do not talk
with them, you will be arrested. That's why it is so important for
activists to know their rights. One should never talk with government
officials or provide any information, even if they think they already
know it. Keep your mouth shut, or assert your right to remain silent
or have an attorney, at which point they are legally required to stop
questioning you.

WITH THE ANIMAL ENTERPRISE TERRORISM ACT AND OTHER LEGISLATION CLEARLY
INTENDED TO INTIMIDATE ACTIVISTS, WHAT LONG-TERM ROLE DO YOU THINK
DIRECT ACTION WILL PLAY IN ANIMAL ACTIVISM?

The repression perpetrated by the governments in enacting
unconstitutional laws such as AETA, etc., is only backfiring. Because
legal protest is now sometimes illegal or activists are deterred, they
have gone underground. Since the passage of AETA, I have heard of more
underground direct actions than before AETA.

WHAT DO YOU DO TO KEEP FROM GETTING BURNED OUT?

That's a good question. I try to keep my head in the game and never
forget of the pain these animals suffer. But, I try my hardest to have
a good time when I can, because if I don't, I will burn out. I love
hiking with my companion dogs and going out with friends and NOT
talking about animals sometimes.

DO YOU THINK SPAIN'S DECISION TO GRANT RIGHTS TO GREAT APES OFFERS US
ANY HOPE THAT COURTS MAY ONE DAY REGARD ALL ANIMALS AS MORE THAN
PROPERTY?

Any win for the animals, here or abroad, should be a sign of hope. The
animal rights movement is one that requires a process that can
sometimes be daunting and long. Every time we hear of any sort of inch
being given over to us means we should pull that much harder on the
proverbial tug of war we are playing here. Spain granting rights to
greater apes is a catalyst to rights being given throughout. The day
will come when we pull and all the exploiters, and animal abusers
direct and indirect, fall in the mud. If we can make them budge even
an inch, we can make them budge again and again.

WHAT ADVICE DO YOU OFFER ACTIVISTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN USING THE
LEGAL SYSTEM TO ADVANCE THE INTERESTS OF ANIMALS?

The spectrum of animal rights law is a not a very populated one. I
advise that working for animals in the legal field will help to show
how serious we are about our cause. It takes dedication, hard work,
perseverance and motivation to become a lawyer, and especially to
become one not for the money, but for a cause. The more legal
representation we have in the animal rights world, the bigger the
chance we have to get into politics and make changes for the
well-being and freedom of the billions of animals constantly tortured
and murdered for the most trivial of reasons.

For more information about Shannon Keith, please visit
http://www.animal-rights-lawyer
Posted By: DFronek

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 02:17 PM

Isn't she the one that was soliciting trappers last year that everyone was wondering about?
Posted By: 3 Fingers

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 02:36 PM

what a waste! just think if all that time and money was spent actually doing somrthing good, like helping some of the people in this country who need it.
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 02:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Blak coyote
Isn't she the one that was soliciting trappers last year that everyone was wondering about?



Yup and I think it becomes more evident that we should keep track records on these folks. Some folks mind that I put such info out on the forum but we need to understand the political ramifications of putting our head in the sand and hoping they go away.
Posted By: cedar

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 03:06 PM

Mira I personally love to read the information you add to this forum. It is very informative and real. Thank you
Posted By: James

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 09:01 PM

This woman has now got me enthused at the opportunities for animal-rights lawyers!

Next time these meddlers protest or try to obstruct trapping and hunting, I think I should file suit on behalf of the animals. I'll assert their right to quick euthanasia at the merciful hands of hunters and trappers.

The suit will ask for an injunction against these cruel humans who want to leave wild animals to the prolonged suffering of their so-called "natural" death by disease, suffering, and starvation.

Jim
Posted By: cndgmn

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/10/08 09:15 PM

James,love it.

Mira,keep up the good work.I look forward to reading you posts everytime I'm on.
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Blak coyote
Isn't she the one that was soliciting trappers last year that everyone was wondering about?



Yup and I think it becomes more evident that we should keep track records on these folks. Some folks mind that I put such info out on the forum but we need to understand the political ramifications of putting our head in the sand and hoping they go away.
That is the same one Akona got so mad about because no one wanted to help on ?

Drifter
Posted By: James

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 02:18 AM

Can I sue Akona too?

I was wondering if that was the same person. Supposedly she got some sucker -- er, I mean trapper -- to let her film.

Jim
Posted By: Jtrapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 02:28 AM

Akona finally showed his true colors is all Pete.
Posted By: James

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 02:29 AM

Naturally it would never occur to you that he might have been fooled too.

Jim
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 03:11 AM

Been around Politics all my life. Nothing worse then a Journalist on a mission wanting a Politician to grant an interview. If they hide the mission so that the interviewed doesn't know what is going down, the poor guy won't even recognize the quotes that were taken out of context even though he said them.
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 03:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Drifter
Originally Posted By: Blak coyote
Isn't she the one that was soliciting trappers last year that everyone was wondering about?



Yup and I think it becomes more evident that we should keep track records on these folks. Some folks mind that I put such info out on the forum but we need to understand the political ramifications of putting our head in the sand and hoping they go away.
That is the same one Akona got so mad about because no one wanted to help on ?

Drifter




That is the reason I posted the article as a warning. Many of the articles I supply have names of avid and rabid ARA that could be living next door to you. Would be wise to remember those names.
Posted By: bulletbox

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 03:15 AM

Dang Mira,

I thought you was talking about "Maw Feline"...

Good read....
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 03:27 AM

Quote:
Naturally it would never occur to you that he might have been fooled too.


You mean he isn't infallible like he says ? I would think that anyone as rabid as he was being about it would have checked it out with all his contacts he has all over the world .

Drifter
Posted By: Jtrapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 03:27 AM

He don't get fooled James, where've you been? He's an expert on all matters, why he got all bent out of shape towards every trapper that felt this was all a set up, especially after NTA's contact's confirmed this was a group of anti's doing the filming!
Posted By: James

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 03:55 AM

Anything else you'd like to say in public about someone who's not present?

One rule for yourself, another one for everyone else.

Jim
Posted By: Jtrapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 04:00 AM

Look in the mirror before you go judging others.
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 04:00 AM

He is a victim of his own making . Try again .

Drifter
Posted By: warden

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 04:34 AM

If she shows up whatin to film us skinning can we skin her?
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 04:38 AM

LOL doubt you could stand the smell .

Drifter
Posted By: warden

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 04:43 AM

LOL bet your right Drifter. Even if you fried her in your deep frier, that made them great fried fish at the NTA.
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 04:58 AM

LOL never tried deep fried tofu before .

Drifter
Posted By: warden

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 05:00 AM

Or a vegan. LOL I don't thank I'd take a bite unless it was in the suprise meat pile. HAHAHAHA smile
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 05:07 AM

Never seen no fat vegans LOL probably be like gnawing on a bone like a dog LOL . Probably have to follow suit and bury it .

Drifter
Posted By: warden

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 05:11 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted By: Mark K

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 06:12 AM

Originally Posted By: James
Anything else you'd like to say in public about someone who's not present?

One rule for yourself, another one for everyone else.

Jim


There is a reason he is absent.

He earned his abscence.

Akona assured everyone that this woman was on the up and up. He claimed all kinds of stuff such as he had experience with her and knew she was ok.

Seems that he lied, huh?
Posted By: James

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 07:36 AM

First, Akona's absence from this forum had nothing to do with this woman, according to what I heard. It had everything to do with Malone's grudge against Akona, which we can still see displayed right here.

Second, you recall Akona's words differently than I do. I recall him passing on a request for someone to accompany a trapper. I do not recall him saying he "had experience with her and knew she was ok." I recall him not being able to understand the suspicion of US trappers about this request. Something I could see an Australian not understanding. He then got upset when people began questioning his own motives.

I suppose if you want to dig back through a bunch of old threads on another forum, you might be able to prove which of us remembers correctly.

Too bad. This was a good thread until a few bitter, angry people took it over.

Jim
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 09:07 PM

The bottom line is we should be very careful. Many wolves in the human family ,are quite accustomed to wearing the fleece of the most innocent of Lambs. About 6 years ago one of our better communicators and trappers tried to help our cause. He had no idea that the interviewer had every intention of misrepresenting what he had to say.
Posted By: Jtrapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 09:15 PM

Very true Mira, a few years ago we had a media training seminar for work dealing with reporter's asking you question's about trapping!

Was funny to see how they turned the answer's around on tv as this was all taped, each person's answer's then the snipets of what they said formed in a way to make trapping look bad by the reporter. Though it was funny to see co workers in a odd situation at the same time it was a major wake up call that if approached to NOT SAY ANYTHING as no matter how well your answer's may be they can still be used against you!
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/11/08 10:44 PM

Originally Posted By: upstateNY
Beware,this woman will abuse you !!Show me one that wont !!!!LOL couldnt resist.



My wife doesn't abuse me at all. She takes advantage of me. crazy
Posted By: Trapper Knox

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/12/08 01:36 AM

I don't understand why people put so much time & energy into animal rights. What's the point? Eventually, either the Rapture will occur or the sun will go Super Nova and everything will all be for nothing.
These people are wasting their time.
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/12/08 01:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Trapper Knox
I don't understand why people put so much time & energy into animal rights. What's the point? Eventually, either the Rapture will occur or the sun will go Super Nova and everything will all be for nothing.
These people are wasting their time.




Simple. They are control freaks trying to end all economic relationships between us and the animals by forcing their will upon everyone else so they can feel good about themselves.
Posted By: Trapper Knox

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/12/08 01:53 AM

That just seems pathetic, for animals obviously don't have the emotions like we do. Wouldn't they get more of a good feel from trying to stop genocide or something.
It just doesn't make sense with animals.
By the way, is the film going to be on the big screen or just on TV?
Posted By: FOXCATCHER

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/12/08 06:09 AM

Its something tangible to them. Most have pets or visit with shelters or rehab centers.

They wouldn't get the same saticfaction from taking home a Bosnian. grin

They are over emotional and are not able to see the logic of consumptive use. Our God himself felt sacrafice was appropriate. I'm suprised they have not taken him to court over slaughtering lambs.

Don
Posted By: Mira Trapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/12/08 11:49 AM

Not to mention that there is a certain sense of power over their own adherents as they try to outdo each other in Animal Rights movement where they get cheers for maligning the rest of humanity. You must remember, many of these ARA folk are classing humanity as a cancerous blight upon the planet. Then again there is lots of money in the movement to. Money often attracts bad apples pretending to be good do gooders. Their kinda do usually sticks to your shoes and smells like dog poop.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/13/08 03:13 PM

Fight of the century! Shannon vs Sarah P in a cage match.
Posted By: singingtrapper

Re: Trappers Beware. This woman will abuse you. - 09/13/08 03:32 PM

trappers,hunters,and fisherman are all conservatoinists.we try to keep all the species in order. unfortunatly we have idiots trying to ruin the whole system. we are a strong force together. right will prevail one way or the other.
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