Posted By: Mira Trapper
If we turned violent would this dweeb survive - 07/07/10 05:12 PM
These dweebs have no clue as to how society being threatened by them is bound to turn sour real quick if they were attacked in reprisals by the folks they attack.
Cherry Bomb (blog)
the Vegan Revolution won’t be achieved by Non Violence
by Cherry Bomb
7 JULY, 2010
http://cherrybomb nutcase e1.the-vegan-revolution-wont-be-achieved-by-non-violence/
written by Alison Stone
The following is a reaction I have to all of the “non violence only”
vegans out that who are strangling the Animal Rights Movement. This is
why I will never oppose MDA, or those who participate in it.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.”
--John F. Kennedy
I say this here and now, I support any tactic which saves the life of
an animal. I will not rule out anything on principle. Because when
someone puts their principle of Non Violence ahead of Total Liberation
the consequence is ANIMALS DIE.
The Animal Rights Movement (with the wonderful acronym of ARM) is
fighting a war on two fronts – against the actual animal abusers and
those who are destroying Animal Rights from within. Of the two, the
insiders who a bringing down Real ARAs are worse.
It is not ok to sit back and watch animal dies because you prefer Non
Violence to Doing Something.
You have made the decision on behalf of animals that it is ok to
sacrifice their lives on the altar of your non Violence beliefs. Their
freedom and liberation must be postponed until you managed to educate
the world.
How many animals are dying while you sit around blogging to each other
the latest links from the Non Violence Temple that is ARZ? You talk to
fellow Non Violence zombies about Non Violence while the Real ARAs are
saving animals.
Animal abusers are the known enemy, but the Non Violence vegans
pretend to be on the side of the animals, when in reality, they are
derailing the Real ARAs, putting out lies and distractions about what
Vegan and Animal Rights is, they are discrediting and bullying Real
ARAs, they are collaborating with the State and law enforcement
agencies in order to destroy Real ARAs, they are actively,
deliberately and happily causing division within Animal Rights to
further their own goals which have nothing to do with Total
Liberation.
The ‘Non violence’ adherents are followers of the Narrow-thinking GL
Francione. They have corrupted what Animal Rights means to most people
outside of animal rights, and they are a dangerous trend. I say trend
because in my opinion they are involved in Animal Rights because GL
Francione tells them to. I believe they have no real interest in TOTAL
LIBERATION for anyone. They are in the grip of othorexia (a disordered
obsession with eating only healthy foods). And when their infatuation
with GL Francione fades so will their passion for Animal Activism.
“Nonviolence is fine as long as it works.”
--Malcolm X
Non violence is not working. Because what certain people in AR
consider to be Non Violence is in actuality a complete withdrawal from
any activity that would liberate any animal. They have retreated and
are collaborating with the abusers. The GL Francione cult has
collaborated with “Center for Consumer Freedom” a meat and dairy
propaganda organisation with the sole intention of destroying any
animal organisation that isn’t them.
By decreeing anyone who rejects the 100% non violence model as being
“terrorists” and “criminals” you are using the language of those in
power. You are aligning with the State who would repress any activist
who fights to save a life.
“By vilifying sabotage tactics as “violent,” and by conflating attacks
on property with assaults on people, Franciombes adopt the reactionary
discourse and position of the FBI and the corporate-state-media
complex. They needlessly and divisively pit education in opposition to
illegal tactics (even open rescues), as if the two tactics were
irreconcilably opposed rather than complimentary aspects of a
revolutionary process.”
--Steven Best, Negotiation Is Over, ‘Manifesto for Total Liberation by
Any Means Necessary’
Non Violence does not work
It didn’t work in 1970 against a Vietnam war, it won’t work in a world
where 6 billion people see nothing wrong with rape and murder of
animals to satisfy their tastebuds. The Vietnam war did not end
because people wished and hoped and chanted ‘Peace, man!’. People of
all ages took to the streets, young men who were conscripted chose
prison as Conscientious Objectors, students were slaughtered at Kent
State University, the media showed the death toll on the televisions
every night as parents and grandparents sat down to eat their evening
meal and imagined it could be their child, the Peace Movement engaged
people from different walks of life and embraced them all.
“War is over … If you want it.”
--John Lennon
A phrase which has been “borrowed” and adapted by Non Violence vegans
to further their Non Violence apathy.
The difference being – John Lennon was bigger than Jesus (according to
the Beatles), most of the world knew who John Lennon was. Lennon did
not just sit around blogging for peace, he staged Love In in hotels
around the world in front of the media, the wrote songs, he gave
interviews.
The Vietnam war was directed by the US government and allies. A tiny
fraction of the people of the world. It was easy to stop because of
the small number of people involved. Unlike Necrovorism, which is most
of the world’s population. And Lennon didn’t stop the war on his own.
Does GL Francione really think he is more important than Lennon, a man
who thought he was bigger than Jesus.
More people in the world have heard of John Lennon and Jesus than have
ever heard of GL Francione – in fact: more people in my house have
heard of Lennon and Jesus than Francione
“You can jail a Revolutionary, but you can’t jail the Revolution.”
--Huey Newton
The Non Violence / MDA (militant direction action) debate is based on
a false dichotomy
It is not One or The Other, Non Violence rejects everything that isn’t
non Violence, while supporters of MDA use a diversity of tactics,
including non violence where appropriate. It is by Any Means
Necessary, that does not exclude any tactic or method which saves a
life.
The opposite of Non Violence Veganism is not Violence, instead it’s
Whatever It Takes.
Non Violence does not say what you stand for, it only describes what
you are against. It is not a tactic, it is a statement of what you
believe.
“Let me just say: Peace to you, if you’re willing to fight for it.”
--Fred Hampton
I once asked a member of the GLF cult what they actually, physically
did to make the world a more vegan place. The standard answer is
“education”. I’m not sure what they mean by that, because as far as I
can see, it mostly involves trolling non-GLF forums, blogs and people
in order to post lots and lots of links to GLF’s website. You ask them
to name one specific thing the Non Violence CULT have done and they
make some vague reference to a person who hit the streets for vegan
outreach – once, a long time ago.
Education is a first step, awareness is the beginning, but then what?
If you want a vegan revolution, it starts by putting animals first.
Not second to your non violence commandments. An animal that dies
today cannot be resurrected tomorrow.
While you are preaching NON Violence Only, animals are dying.
Businesses are making money from murder, governments are imprisoning
activists, traitors are collaborating with government agencies, and
nothing much changes. Animals will be saved by those taking action.
“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who
helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against
it is really cooperating with it.’
--Martin Luther King, Jr.
I don’t have time to wait for you to educate 6 billion people that
using animals is wrong, I will get on with saving an animal’s life.
. . . BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
Cherry Bomb (blog)
the Vegan Revolution won’t be achieved by Non Violence
by Cherry Bomb
7 JULY, 2010
http://cherrybomb nutcase e1.the-vegan-revolution-wont-be-achieved-by-non-violence/
written by Alison Stone
The following is a reaction I have to all of the “non violence only”
vegans out that who are strangling the Animal Rights Movement. This is
why I will never oppose MDA, or those who participate in it.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.”
--John F. Kennedy
I say this here and now, I support any tactic which saves the life of
an animal. I will not rule out anything on principle. Because when
someone puts their principle of Non Violence ahead of Total Liberation
the consequence is ANIMALS DIE.
The Animal Rights Movement (with the wonderful acronym of ARM) is
fighting a war on two fronts – against the actual animal abusers and
those who are destroying Animal Rights from within. Of the two, the
insiders who a bringing down Real ARAs are worse.
It is not ok to sit back and watch animal dies because you prefer Non
Violence to Doing Something.
You have made the decision on behalf of animals that it is ok to
sacrifice their lives on the altar of your non Violence beliefs. Their
freedom and liberation must be postponed until you managed to educate
the world.
How many animals are dying while you sit around blogging to each other
the latest links from the Non Violence Temple that is ARZ? You talk to
fellow Non Violence zombies about Non Violence while the Real ARAs are
saving animals.
Animal abusers are the known enemy, but the Non Violence vegans
pretend to be on the side of the animals, when in reality, they are
derailing the Real ARAs, putting out lies and distractions about what
Vegan and Animal Rights is, they are discrediting and bullying Real
ARAs, they are collaborating with the State and law enforcement
agencies in order to destroy Real ARAs, they are actively,
deliberately and happily causing division within Animal Rights to
further their own goals which have nothing to do with Total
Liberation.
The ‘Non violence’ adherents are followers of the Narrow-thinking GL
Francione. They have corrupted what Animal Rights means to most people
outside of animal rights, and they are a dangerous trend. I say trend
because in my opinion they are involved in Animal Rights because GL
Francione tells them to. I believe they have no real interest in TOTAL
LIBERATION for anyone. They are in the grip of othorexia (a disordered
obsession with eating only healthy foods). And when their infatuation
with GL Francione fades so will their passion for Animal Activism.
“Nonviolence is fine as long as it works.”
--Malcolm X
Non violence is not working. Because what certain people in AR
consider to be Non Violence is in actuality a complete withdrawal from
any activity that would liberate any animal. They have retreated and
are collaborating with the abusers. The GL Francione cult has
collaborated with “Center for Consumer Freedom” a meat and dairy
propaganda organisation with the sole intention of destroying any
animal organisation that isn’t them.
By decreeing anyone who rejects the 100% non violence model as being
“terrorists” and “criminals” you are using the language of those in
power. You are aligning with the State who would repress any activist
who fights to save a life.
“By vilifying sabotage tactics as “violent,” and by conflating attacks
on property with assaults on people, Franciombes adopt the reactionary
discourse and position of the FBI and the corporate-state-media
complex. They needlessly and divisively pit education in opposition to
illegal tactics (even open rescues), as if the two tactics were
irreconcilably opposed rather than complimentary aspects of a
revolutionary process.”
--Steven Best, Negotiation Is Over, ‘Manifesto for Total Liberation by
Any Means Necessary’
Non Violence does not work
It didn’t work in 1970 against a Vietnam war, it won’t work in a world
where 6 billion people see nothing wrong with rape and murder of
animals to satisfy their tastebuds. The Vietnam war did not end
because people wished and hoped and chanted ‘Peace, man!’. People of
all ages took to the streets, young men who were conscripted chose
prison as Conscientious Objectors, students were slaughtered at Kent
State University, the media showed the death toll on the televisions
every night as parents and grandparents sat down to eat their evening
meal and imagined it could be their child, the Peace Movement engaged
people from different walks of life and embraced them all.
“War is over … If you want it.”
--John Lennon
A phrase which has been “borrowed” and adapted by Non Violence vegans
to further their Non Violence apathy.
The difference being – John Lennon was bigger than Jesus (according to
the Beatles), most of the world knew who John Lennon was. Lennon did
not just sit around blogging for peace, he staged Love In in hotels
around the world in front of the media, the wrote songs, he gave
interviews.
The Vietnam war was directed by the US government and allies. A tiny
fraction of the people of the world. It was easy to stop because of
the small number of people involved. Unlike Necrovorism, which is most
of the world’s population. And Lennon didn’t stop the war on his own.
Does GL Francione really think he is more important than Lennon, a man
who thought he was bigger than Jesus.
More people in the world have heard of John Lennon and Jesus than have
ever heard of GL Francione – in fact: more people in my house have
heard of Lennon and Jesus than Francione
“You can jail a Revolutionary, but you can’t jail the Revolution.”
--Huey Newton
The Non Violence / MDA (militant direction action) debate is based on
a false dichotomy
It is not One or The Other, Non Violence rejects everything that isn’t
non Violence, while supporters of MDA use a diversity of tactics,
including non violence where appropriate. It is by Any Means
Necessary, that does not exclude any tactic or method which saves a
life.
The opposite of Non Violence Veganism is not Violence, instead it’s
Whatever It Takes.
Non Violence does not say what you stand for, it only describes what
you are against. It is not a tactic, it is a statement of what you
believe.
“Let me just say: Peace to you, if you’re willing to fight for it.”
--Fred Hampton
I once asked a member of the GLF cult what they actually, physically
did to make the world a more vegan place. The standard answer is
“education”. I’m not sure what they mean by that, because as far as I
can see, it mostly involves trolling non-GLF forums, blogs and people
in order to post lots and lots of links to GLF’s website. You ask them
to name one specific thing the Non Violence CULT have done and they
make some vague reference to a person who hit the streets for vegan
outreach – once, a long time ago.
Education is a first step, awareness is the beginning, but then what?
If you want a vegan revolution, it starts by putting animals first.
Not second to your non violence commandments. An animal that dies
today cannot be resurrected tomorrow.
While you are preaching NON Violence Only, animals are dying.
Businesses are making money from murder, governments are imprisoning
activists, traitors are collaborating with government agencies, and
nothing much changes. Animals will be saved by those taking action.
“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who
helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against
it is really cooperating with it.’
--Martin Luther King, Jr.
I don’t have time to wait for you to educate 6 billion people that
using animals is wrong, I will get on with saving an animal’s life.
. . . BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY