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Beavers tripping traps!!

Posted By: nate

Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 01:35 AM

Does anyone know how these smart Beaver unset 330s without getting caught,? Most the time you can't tell they've even been there. Just curious what you all think.
Posted By: 8117 Steve R

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 01:38 AM

how do you know its beaver?
Posted By: nate

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 01:46 AM

Because it happens when I'm after a very intelligent beaver or beavers that are really tough to catch, never happens when I'ma catching your run of the mill beavers maybe every once in awhile not often, hen I go for the old loners every trap will be f it red off, or none will be touched
Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 02:05 AM

Probably muskrats. But you should be connecting with some of them if it is
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 02:16 AM

Turtles
Posted By: bctomcat

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
Probably muskrats. But you should be connecting with some of them if it is
Switch over to 280's and you will connect to a number of rats if they are the cause.
Posted By: jabNE

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 11:18 AM

Nate I had one do this to me at an underwater run/narrow spot I was trying to catch it at. 330 kept being fired. Then I caught it by the tail one check and an old timer explained to me all those previous misfires were probably from prop wash effect. Beaver swimming up to the spot then refusing to enter the 330 and when it turned and swam off the water coming into the trap from the beaver’s “prop wash” much like wake of a boat was enough force to fire the trigger wires especially if there was a little debris on the wires like leaves or grass.
Catching that beaver by the tail helped me understand it better. No way it would have swam all the way through the 330 but a turn and go would leave the tail facing the trap. Was only one I ever caught by the tail in a 330 too.
I switched to snares at some locations and made bigger loops and that seemed to help with the refusals. Foot traps on drowners too would more “invisible” to a beaver rather than forcing it into a square opening.
Jim
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 01:02 PM

I've watched beavers swim towards a 330 and just as it gets to it, it does a fast forward summersault firing the trap either with it's tail or water pressure. I saw this happen two different times.
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 02:54 PM

Have caught 3 by the tail. I agree with the turning around fast in front of a 330.
Posted By: CountryCletus

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 04:48 PM

A buddy of mine has a cell cam on a 330 set and got a video of a big splash, and expected to have a beaver in the trap when he got there- turns out the beaver did the okie-doke and flipped around, firing the trap with its tail as it spun
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 05:52 PM

330 use time is coming to an end down here for the year..... with temps warming more active turtles caught everyday or 330s fired.
Posted By: Spike369

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 09:20 PM

I had one this year that kept turning the foothold trap over without setting it off. The last time it did it it chewed down a tree that I scraped with my knife and drug it off. That's when I put out a snare and got him the next day. That my friends is why trapping is so much fun. You just never know what an animal is going to do.
Posted By: Flatlander94

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Spike369
I had one this year that kept turning the foothold trap over without setting it off. The last time it did it it chewed down a tree that I scraped with my knife and drug it off. That's when I put out a snare and got him the next day. That my friends is why trapping is so much fun. You just never know what an animal is going to do.


That and when they do stuff like this, it's a learning experience and you have to pull some tricks out of the toolbox to throw at them! I always ask myself, what is the animal trying to teach me this time.
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 02/29/24 11:40 PM

I get a lot of sprung 330's. I think sometimes it's the turn around splash effect and other time it's them grabbing the frame or trigger of the trap with a front foot to help pull themselves up the bank. A beaver uses those front feet to grab things...don't forget. I've caught many many beaver by one or two front feet and a smaller number by the tail.
Posted By: nate

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 12:20 AM

I'm telling you they will definitely humble a guy.
Posted By: backroadsarcher

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 01:07 AM

For the heck of it drop a snare in the run and see what happens. If its the same 330, is the water feet enough for a dive stick? Try the snare if not.
Posted By: Muskratwalt

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 01:18 AM

Got one today missing a front foot all healed over in a BG by the hind foot. Been trying to catch it for a month. Missed it twice. It didn't leave much sign , didn't move often, and definitely knew what traps were.
Posted By: Yukon John

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 02:48 AM

That always relieves a guy.
Posted By: Aix sponsa

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 07:21 PM

Several people have shared their first hand observations already, but the real question is what is the plan to correct it?

In my humble experience and opinion, this is a good example of when catching the last one, there’s great value making the best blind sets that you can. When I’ve been after problematic beaver, I chose to make fewer, better sets. If I wanted to use 330s, I’d use dog down, T triggers which leave half of the jaw space clear so that an approaching beaver seemed to have a clear passage. Secondly, I’d look for the tight spaces that they were already frequently using. “Submerge your traps” is a common phrase, but I believe if legal, blending is more important than submerging. If the trail went through aquatic vegetation, I’d set the either half submerged (and appearing completely open) or submerged trap in place then use the same type of vegetation or woody cover from that location to make the trap disappear. If you can submerge AND blend in a tight space that they travel, that’s a wrap.

No exposed trigger wires, or at a bare minimum, vertical trigger wires pushed to the side to give the illusion of a clear space to pass then make it look like nothing is there. To do this means taking advantage of the best locations—-not building a fencing fortress where it doesn’t belong. It’s their world, and major (sometimes even minor) changes can complicate the situation.

Snares are a fantastic tool for catching beavers, and so are well placed footholds. If someone is trying to catch “some” beavers, they can get away with a lot more as catching “a” beaver is easy. I do believe a person is better off making the highest quality sets they can when they’re trying to catch the “last” one on a regular basis. Sometimes even the last one is easy, but when it isn’t, it pays to do it right from the start.
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 07:42 PM

Very good post Aix.
Posted By: KYBOY

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 03/01/24 08:46 PM

I believe truly that beaver can get square shy .. Ive seen too much trail cam footage of them avoiding body grips.. Then I also think when you have snapped bodygrips or foot and tail catches its from beaver turning at the last minute, getting close to the trap but not going through..Or trying to pull themselves over it..
Now if your just gang setting for fur it does not matter so much but if your trying to remove them all its a pain.. Thats when I go too all footholds, blind sets, sac oil or food lures..etc
Posted By: Zacmied

Re: Beavers tripping traps!! - 04/01/24 01:14 AM

Have had the same problem trying to get a couple adults out of a nuisance job creek. Ended up using my duke number 4s on drowner cables with a castor mound set. I set half way between a front foot target and a back foot target hoping for a back foot after it had committed. Had an adult 2 days in a row and that's a wrap there. Switch it up. If they don't like the 330 give them something else. The most important thing that taught me is to hit them as hard as you can with as many good sets as you can right off the bat. It is much easier to catch the kits after catching the adults and 2 year Olds then it is to catch the youngins and then try to catch the adults. Goodluck and tight chains!
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