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Posted By: JEckman

Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:24 AM

This has boggled my mind on here for too long..

Everyone seems to push cable extensions which is fine. But I've never ever heard of adding chain and a quick/snap link ever ever on coon DPs or footholds. Sure cable could handle the abuse for multiple catches but chain forever... So Why no chain?
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:26 AM

I think my main thing and many other guys may be weight and cost. Especially the way some of these guys trap coons, hundreds of traps with as much chain as the cable would get very heavy and very expensive.
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:30 AM

BS... You don't have to buy chain if you look around...
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by JEckman
BS... You don't have to buy chain if you look around...

What ya going to do? Steal it off kids swing-sets? Lol
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:39 AM

Cable is a heck of a lot cheaper than chain.
Cable is a heck of a lot lighter than chain.
Easier for me to snip cable than chain if I need to.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:45 AM

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, I don't see the need for any extensions. All of my coon traps have standard length chain with a mid chain swivel and a cable stake. Both footholds and DPs same set up.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, I don't see the need for any extensions. All of my coon traps have standard length chain with a mid chain swivel and a cable stake. Both footholds and DPs same set up.


I think he means when guys are looping them around trees and such and using cable extensions for doing so.
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by JEckman
BS... You don't have to buy chain if you look around...

Where do you find free chain? I use stock chain and wolf fang anchors on my DP's but modify other traps with chain and swivels and buy it by hundred foot lengths.
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 02:01 AM

Sure. If no kids is using it anymore
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 02:02 AM

Boom
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 02:03 AM

Stop on over.. Your close enough to me. I been looking randomly for yrs and just don't throw good chain away. It's everywhere..

Turtledale
Posted By: Wright Brothers

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 10:59 AM

Cause we like to bark about the tangled stinkin pile
after pull day lol.
At least they are shying away from wire.

Where you been JEck?
Edit. Just saw you are an international hunter.
Good to see you made the big time. grin
Posted By: Kre

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:50 PM

Am I the only one that hates using cable?
Posted By: k snow

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Kre
Am I the only one that hates using cable?


I wouldn't say I hate it, but it definitely is not fun at times. Kinks, broken strands, tangled messes.

And I stake all my DP's well away from any chance of entanglement.
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 03:32 PM

Hey Wright. I just been teaching my little one to point and laugh at goofy looking people is where I been....

Quick snap and your trap with chain pops right out of a bucket. Freaking twisted up cable is more a pain than it's worth.. I just never have understood...
Posted By: SNIPERBBB

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Kre
Am I the only one that hates using cable?

It's a love hate relationship
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 08:58 PM

How are you guys using these extensions?
Posted By: Tony1967

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 09:54 PM

I quick link a cable to a chain, run the cable around a tree and run the trap and chain thru the cable loop. Pull tight and on to the next one……
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 10:30 PM

Snap link or just a dog chain hookup around a tree or root. Straight to the chain. No kinky cables
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/26/24 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by JEckman
Snap link or just a dog chain hookup around a tree or root. Straight to the chain. No kinky cables

Thanks for the answer.
I was wondering because I've never used any kind of extension on a coon trap. All of mine are rigged to earth anchors, everything all the same so there is no need to find something to attach to.
Posted By: Wright Brothers

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/27/24 11:03 AM

When I was about ten,
I got hollered at by a land owner because a coon in my trap
chewed up a nice oak tree about 4" diameter.

I never forgot about it.
It is not "a" tree,
someone owns it.

He pointed to a patch of iron wood and said have at those.
Posted By: Hern

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/27/24 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
How are you guys using these extensions?

Mountain or woods trapping with soft earth or very rocky or lots of roots, I will cable off trap.
I can make set faster and easier/faster to pull set.

Here's a clearing on mountain side- simple dirthole under root, along a trail.
Cable around tree, other end attached with Quick Link to end swivel of trap chain-
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Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/27/24 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hern
Originally Posted by trapdog1
How are you guys using these extensions?

Mountain or woods trapping with soft earth or very rocky or lots of roots, I will cable off trap.
I can make set faster and easier/faster to pull set.

Here's a clearing on mountain side- simple dirthole under root, along a trail.
Cable around tree, other end attached with Quick Link to end swivel of trap chain-
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Thanks for the explanation, Hern. Very interesting.
Different styles and trapping conditions. Here it is rare to find a location where you can't quickly poke in a cable stake. That has become my go to over the years, and I like to have all my equipment set up the same for ease and speed. Thanks again.
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/27/24 02:01 PM

What kind of cable are y’all using that gets kinked up? I’ve got some DP’s with cable that are 6 years old and still about as straight as when I made them. And that’s with having to untangle them from trees and brush. Think I used 1/8”.
Posted By: TC1

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/27/24 02:49 PM

Never had a problem with cable linking or tangles on my DP’s or cable extensions on my conibears. I’m assuming the issues occur when pulling and tossing into a pile. I simply coil the cable as I’m going back to the vehicle and clip with the spring clip or whatever all in a neat package and no problems.
Posted By: illinideer

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/29/24 11:14 AM

I use about a 1.5 foot of cable with a 3 inch earth anchor made form 1/2 inch black pipe. This give me the option to use the earth anchor or a 1/2 inch rebar stake through the pipe depending on what the ground or creek is like.
Posted By: BC-Buck

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/29/24 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by illinideer
I use about a 1.5 foot of cable with a 3 inch earth anchor made form 1/2 inch black pipe. This give me the option to use the earth anchor or a 1/2 inch rebar stake through the pipe depending on what the ground or creek is like.

Do you have pictures of your setup? Sounds like interesting and how do you drive your anchor?
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/29/24 09:09 PM

I stake the coons to the ground using stock chains, maybe an added mid-chain swivel on some. Unless the ground is too rocky to stake them, I see no advantage to cabling or chaining them to a tree or similar. Rather that is a disadvantage if they wrap around the tree or tangle in sticks stopping swiveling or compressing the DP springs.
Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/29/24 09:56 PM

For me there is only one main reason for using cable extensions to secure your traps. That is to avoid drawing attention on public lands or anywhere around visible houses. The pounding of any staking system can be heard for a greater distance then you think. Sound travels. Wrapping a cable around a big sapling or wood drag is quiet and you're on your way
Posted By: KYBOY

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/29/24 10:32 PM

Im gonna go way against the grain here.. now I dont hardcore coon trap but ive caught my share over the years. Much of the time i use about 6' of chain and a small/medium sized drag. I
mostly pre hook the drag and 9/10 its right there waiting on me.. I also like this because I can walk the bank and just pre hook the trap in roots or whatever and mink/rats just drown there at the set.. Not really a rig I use to target just coon, more of a do all creek bank rig that just works for me..[Linked Image]
Posted By: JEckman

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/29/24 11:43 PM

I like it KY... When I originally swapped to just chain I was blowing cash on k9 traps. I think a dozen or 2 rigs with a drag plus the rest quick snap be the ticket
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/30/24 01:11 AM

I’ve used old truck brake rotors as anchors if I can drive to the spots. I push the cable through one of the holes and attach the other end to the DP. Ain’t had a coon yet that could move one, lol.
Posted By: illinideer

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/30/24 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by BC-Buck
Originally Posted by illinideer
I use about a 1.5 foot of cable with a 3 inch earth anchor made form 1/2 inch black pipe. This give me the option to use the earth anchor or a 1/2 inch rebar stake through the pipe depending on what the ground or creek is like.

Do you have pictures of your setup? Sounds like interesting and how do you drive your anchor?

Here it is its a 3 inch piece of 1/2 inch black pipe with a 1/4inch nut welded to it. I can either drive it into the ground or use 1/2 rebar as a stake and the pipe will pivot around it just fine. I also use this anchor with my canine sets I use either 14inches of cable or #2chain I considered it to be my poor mans super stake. The driver is a piece of 5/8rod with the last 3 1/2 ground down so it will fit inside the anchor with a nut welded above for a stop.
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Posted By: BC-Buck

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/30/24 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by illinideer
Originally Posted by BC-Buck
[quote=illinideer]I use about a 1.5 foot of cable with a 3 inch earth anchor made form 1/2 inch black pipe. This give me the option to use the earth anchor or a 1/2 inch rebar stake through the pipe depending on what the ground or creek is like.

Do you have pictures of your setup? Sounds like interesting and how do you drive your anchor?

Here it is its a 3 inch piece of 1/2 inch black pipe with a 1/4inch nut welded to it. I can either drive it into the ground or use 1/2 rebar as a stake and the pipe will pivot around it just fine. I also use this anchor with my canine sets I use either 14inches of cable or #2chain I considered it to be my poor mans super stake. The driver is a piece of 5/8rod with the last 3 1/2 ground down so it will fit inside the anchor with a nut welded above for a stop.

Excellent idea and being able to use with earth anchor is a win/ win. How much luck do you have on pull day. Thinking IL clay might need to be cable cut.
Posted By: illinideer

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/31/24 01:05 AM

For the rebar I use a big pair of vise grips clamp it on to the top and rotate it back and forth any you can work it up and out. If I'm using the earth anchor I have a puller for them but most of them whether it's the coon sets or canine. I will mark them with some of the hi vis survey tape orange, hot pink or what ever there is availible and pull them early spring once the frost is out of the ground. As long as I get them out of the ground before the farmers start working fields the land owners are ok with it. As for IL clay I'm in West Central IL, Brown county where are you at ?
J
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: Chain on coon traps - 01/31/24 02:18 AM

Here’s a tree before with a DP cabled around the tree…
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And the same tree after a catch, lol.
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