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Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting

Posted By: Trapper7

Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:43 PM

There is talk that environmentalists want to ban lead for high school trapping shooting teams in MN. If this happens, the cost for ammo would easily double or more. Many charitable gaming organizations support schools financially for this activity. Charitable gaming organizations get their charitable funds through pull tabs and E-tabs with the largest source coming from E-tabs. The end of this year there will be no E-tabs as we know them in MN resulting in a huge reduction of funding for schools and other non-profits. This will severely diminish the amount of financial support that will be available to high school trap shooting teams. This change is mostly supported by the MN democrats with only 6 democrats not supporting it.

High School trap shooting is the largest growing extracurricular activity among high schools in MN.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:46 PM

We can't have children shooting evil guns.
Posted By: DelawareRob

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
We can't have children shooting evil guns.


Did they stop selling steel shot?
Posted By: DelawareRob

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:48 PM

That sucks. You got a contact or link to the bill so we can respond?
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:49 PM

It's not about lead or steel shot. It's about ending trap shooting.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by DelawareRob
That sucks. You got a contact or link to the bill so we can respond?

At this time there isn't a bill yet. But, pressure from environmental groups may force one. They had a newscaster this morning talking about how the earth is being contaminated by all this lead shot according to an environmental group. Their concern was the growing number of schools getting into trap shooting will be a major contributor of this pollution.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
It's not about lead or steel shot. It's about ending trap shooting.

How right you are!
Posted By: Tray

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/28/24 11:00 PM

I have bought several cases of steel 7s in trap loads for dove hunting public ground here and not had to pay much more than what we pay for lead trap shells. Cost wise it might not be too bad, problem will be availability as it can be hard to find steel trap loads.

Idiots probably don’t even realize that most of that lead is collected and recycled from those trap ranges.
Posted By: BigBlackBirds

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by DelawareRob
That sucks. You got a contact or link to the bill so we can respond?

At this time there isn't a bill yet. But, pressure from environmental groups may force one. They had a newscaster this morning talking about how the earth is being contaminated by all this lead shot according to an environmental group. Their concern was the growing number of schools getting into trap shooting will be a major contributor of this pollution.



That’s hilarious given that most of the decent sized clubs are mined fir recycled shot
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 12:49 AM

the irony is steel costs less by the pound than lead as it gets more common and less undesirable it will probably even out to be nearly the same price.

a box of steel #7 is 15 dollars and the box of lead 7 1/2 is 11 dollars

it is probably going to change the game probably not too much 27yard line shooting

but your right it isn't being done for safety it is being done to create more barrier to the sport and kids using guns and training youth in safety and it is done "in the name of safety" to actually systematically demote real safety.



Posted By: trapperkeck

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 12:58 AM

I find it odd, they want to ban a naturally occurring element that neither increases, nor decreases in the environment. Somehow, moving it around is detrimental?
Posted By: ceelmo.trap

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 01:18 AM

Sorry to say but there is a bill drafted on the lead issue its on the senate list bills and it can be found on the the gov.web site.it has to do with all things outdoors.
Posted By: ceelmo.trap

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 01:23 AM

Its bill SF 3792 Senator McEwen is named supporting it.
Posted By: Woodsloafer72

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 01:23 AM

Can you post a link?
Posted By: Woodsloafer72

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 01:25 AM

Apparently this is the year for stupid. Just read a news article that there's a bill to prohibit painting without a license.
Posted By: ceelmo.trap

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 01:29 AM

Sorry bite but not that brite wish I coulld.
Posted By: ceelmo.trap

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 01:36 AM

https://mn.gov/governor/ will take you to where I find stuff at hope this helps.
Posted By: Yellowbelly

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 02:22 AM

They did this in California said the condors were eating the bullets out of wounded animals. Never mentioned the fact ddt was used in ag for years. It's basically a way to price people out of shooting or hunting. If you can't outlaw the guns find the next best loophole.
I believe there is a bill for lousiana in the works or was that would ban lead on all government owned wildelife management areas.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 02:37 AM

Make so it has to be reclaimed that should make the tree huggers happy with it being reclaimed.
Posted By: Woodsloafer72

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by ceelmo.trap
https://mn.gov/governor/ will take you to where I find stuff at hope this helps.

Thanks
Posted By: Ohio Wolverine

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 03:08 AM

I know New Hampshire banned lead in fishing weights years ago , and other states were talking about it.
Many states have banned lead shot for waterfowl hunting.
Isn't steel harder on gun barrels than lead?
I believe Bismuth is replacing lead in fishing weights .
I though it was being used in making shot at one time.
Think something about it not forming round shot was a problem.
Posted By: Vinke

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 03:25 AM

Lead shot is a environmental money grab.
I have been paid a lot of you guys ( and gals and liberals) money to keep swans off of area that are “high risk”::,:::

If i ever see ya,,,, i will by you a beverage and say thanks…..
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Vinke
Lead shot is a environmental money grab.
I have been paid a lot of you guys ( and gals and liberals) money to keep swans off of area that are “high risk”::,:::

If i ever see ya,,,, i will by you a beverage and say thanks…..


what's the matter with BUY
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 03:19 PM

My point is that there are two problems when it comes to students and trap shooting if lead is banned. Cost for an alternative shot and availability. The other problem is with the elimination of E-tabs in MN. Our sportmens club donates to 5 local schools funding their trap teams. Our revenues will be reduced dramatically the end of the year when E-tabs as we know them are eliminated in MN. That means the amount of financial support we will have available for these trap teams will be half of what we are donating now.
Posted By: Ohio Wolverine

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 02/29/24 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
My point is that there are two problems when it comes to students and trap shooting if lead is banned. Cost for an alternative shot and availability. The other problem is with the elimination of E-tabs in MN. Our sportmens club donates to 5 local schools funding their trap teams. Our revenues will be reduced dramatically the end of the year when E-tabs as we know them are eliminated in MN. That means the amount of financial support we will have available for these trap teams will be half of what we are donating now.


I've got a good idea what a pull tab is, but just what is an E tab?
Posted By: ceelmo.trap

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 03/01/24 03:29 PM

A pull tab on computer game,just a pull tab in another form you still buy.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 03/01/24 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by ceelmo.trap
A pull tab on computer game,just a pull tab in another form you still buy.

Right. It's a computer generated pull tab. Much more popular than the paper pull tabs are.
Posted By: Vinke

Re: Lead Shot Ban For HS Trap Shooting - 03/01/24 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by Vinke
Lead shot is a environmental money grab.
I have been paid a lot of you guys ( and gals and liberals) money to keep swans off of area that are “high risk”::,:::

If i ever see ya,,,, i will by you a beverage and say thanks…..


what's the matter with BUY


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