Winter time hay sets for cats

I use number 3 sleepy Creek double long springs. Should I go with the expand a pans under the hay or the regular pans?

If you just want cats throw the trap on top of the hay and leave it exposed

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I love expanded pans but only on exposed sets. FYI the SC #3 DLS is my favorite cat trap

Can you guys explain the set and location of them?

I set choke points in travel ways and I am partial to walk thru / exposed traps sets. My favorite is the rub post

There is a lot of reading here and in the archives. Who remembers the young man from AZ or NV who posts his cat videos to youtube?

Here is a recent thread on the topic at hand

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...ing-bobcat-walk-thru-objects#Post7734573

Thank you,

I use straw; it's less appealing to deer than hay is

A good benefit of the haysets is I like how they attract mice. I've heard of people scattering a little bird seed in amongst the hay to encourage mice