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Pistol scope options

Posted By: 330-Trapper

Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:18 AM

Red Dot

Holographic or whatever they're called

Or. Traditional long eye relief Scope

I need to see and shoot up to 250yds.
Posted By: JTfromWV

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:29 AM

I would pick long eye relief traditional. Most red dots will,cover a 5-7 inch area at that range. I also would need the magnification for my vision.
Posted By: Monster Toms

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:32 AM

What handgun??
Posted By: trap master

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:33 AM

Well at that distance the only logical scope choice is traditional. What kind of handgun and caliber we talking about?
Posted By: jtg

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:34 AM

I like this one. https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-hs507c-v2-acss-pistol-red-dot-sight-acss-reticle
Posted By: gman

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:36 AM

I have two Burris long eye relief pistol scopes.A 2-7 and a straight 10 power.Both are excellent for long range.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Red Dot

Holographic or whatever they're called

Or. Traditional long eye relief Scope

I need to see and shoot up to 250yds.




if you need to see 250 to put a shot in a 6-8 inch vitals , you need magnification

1X is almost more like 0.95X it looks like things are almost farther away than they are I can ring steel with my 1x prism , prism is a blend of etched glass retical with imumination , very fast long but not infinite eye relief
they make a 3x fixed prism
they make red dot magnifiers if you will be doing a lot of close with th eneed to flip to far , but you still don't get a pin point dot

for the money a traditional 2-7 is really hard to beat

2X i have shot running deer at 10 yards all the way out to stationary targets at 420 yards it really shines shooting deer in the 20-140 yard range at 2x fast. with a quick turn your out to 250 easy

if you want to spend a little more money and get even more variable there are 1-6, 1-8 and 1-10 optics now and most of them also offer illumination they call these LPVO low power Variable Optics and they are very popular on AR's



Edit : I did a lousy job of reading the title , pistol scopes , most of the options I gave are for rifle or carbine but if you need 250 you still need some magnification even on a pistol
sadly with the steady increase in rifle and carbine scopes , it seems there are fewer and fewer magnified pistol scopes.

2-7 still seems to be the place to go just with fewer options

Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 01:15 AM

Scott, I'm not giving you any more gun advice. You just get my hopes up that you're going to buy something cool, then leave me hanging. No .350 Legend, no .22 mag. frown



grin
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Scott, I'm not giving you any more gun advice. You just get my hopes up that you're going to buy something cool, then leave me hanging. No .350 Legend, no .22 mag. frown



grin

You didn't mention the possible creedmore
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 01:44 AM

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In 2006 After my Stroke, Many of you gave me advice on a Zero recoil option for Antelope. The Striker. 243.

While recovering at home for months and against my specialist orders I went to Wyoming and took this young Buck at 251 paces.

Now at 82 my Dad will get a chance to shoot it for Deer next season I am re stocking it for R or L hand and getting a new upgraded scope.

And ADC , if It works out I'll still get a New Rifle soon...but getting this Set up for my Dad and I will come first
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Posted By: H2ORat

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 01:51 AM

I like higher power scopes on anything i run (rifle or handgun) and do like my 3x9 burris on my contender -- 2-7 isn't bad either.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by H2ORat
I like higher power scopes on anything i run (rifle or handgun) and do like my 3x9 burris on my contender -- 2-7 isn't bad either.

I took that lope with a cheap 2-7 Simmons back then it was a Miracle Shot through both lungs
I was prone with a short bipod and rear was sandbagged
Posted By: H2ORat

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 02:17 AM

If any good manufacturer put out a 3-4 x 12 or a 4x16 in a handgun configuration I would probably have one. My redfield 2x6 isn't a bad scope. my leopold isn't bad either (except that it is only 1.5 power) but looking through it is making your target shrink.
Posted By: charles

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 04:14 AM

I own two Contenders. Both a 7-30W. One has a Leupold and the other a Burris. Variables to 8x and 9X pistol scopes. My longest shot has been 156 yards off sand bags.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by charles
I own two Contenders. Both a 7-30W. One has a Leupold and the other a Burris. Variables to 8x and 9X pistol scopes. My longest shot has been 156 yards off sand bags.

Sand bagged rear is A must and also A Trigger job. Put me on paper 4" group at 200 yd bench
Posted By: Ridge Runner1960

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 10:26 AM

2.5x8 Leupold
Posted By: Whopper Stopper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 12:14 PM

Go to a rifle scope you will never look back.

I have a Vortex 4-16 Crossfire on my 7-30 Waters, love it. [Linked Image]



WS
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Whopper Stopper
Go to a rifle scope you will never look back.

I have a Vortex 4-16 Crossfire on my 7-30 Waters, love it. [Linked Image]



WS

What did that Scope cost? And what's their Warranty?
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 02:19 PM

vortex warranty is excellent you break it they replace it

sent it a red dot that had a battery issue , they sent me a new one in about a week

I had bought it 5 years earlier

the crossfire is the budget line price is usually 130-200 in this line

they do make a 9 inch eye relief scout scope in 2-7 in the crossfire line https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/1017081657?pid=854643
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 02:29 PM

I'm looking to take off my inferior 2-7 Simmons, cheap scope

And looking for a decent 3 to 9
Or the one WS pictured above
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 02:30 PM

this is the one he has in that pic https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/2420177707?pid=932240
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE

3.7 eye relief,
Is that a pistol scope?

GCPete thanks for the link
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:01 PM

https://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-3x-12x-handgun-scopes.html

Looking at this Burris, Spendy though
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:03 PM

no he told you it was a rifle scope and that if you tried it you wouldn't go back . I think he gets up real close to it with it on a rest

we actually see competitive silhouette pistol shooters doing similar they use a rifle scope and hold it very close to them , but since it has no stock it is a pistol shoot yet and it keeps the weight very close to them for better stability

Vortex makes a 2-7x32 scout rifle scope with 9 inches of eye relief that might get you more where you want to be

magnified pistol scopes are getting much fewer

probably because of the pistol brace , I have a couple braced pistols that run traditional rifle scopes fairly long eye relief scopes but not even the scout style 9 inch , they actually shoot a bit more like a short rifle but make stupid laws find creative solutions.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:08 PM

I missed that first line in his post because I was focused on his photo.
wink
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I missed that first line in his post because I was focused on his photo.
wink

I missed the pistol part in the title the first time , it's all good

this is probably one of those times when it is worth a road trip visiting a store with a big selection take your pistol with the bolt out and the old scope out of the mount and be able to set scopes on your mount and rubber band them down see what will work for you , get down in your prone shooting position and try it
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I missed that first line in his post because I was focused on his photo.
wink

I missed the pistol part in the title the first time , it's all good

this is probably one of those times when it is worth a road trip visiting a store with a big selection take your pistol with the bolt out and the old scope out of the mount and be able to set scopes on your mount and rubber band them down see what will work for you , get down in your prone shooting position and try it

That's funny, I was just going to have a 3rd cup of coffee then take the Simmons off that striker and lay a rifle scope in the ring bottoms.

Great advice to bring it in though. I called one old fashioned Gun Shop that had tons if scopes last time I was there...he said he had Only Red dots for pistols. So I might call around before driving. All shops are 1.5 hours away from me.
Posted By: garymc

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:42 PM

I have the Burris 3-12 pistol on my Remington XP-100 260 and love it. I have an older 2.5-7 Thompson Center Scope on my Contender in 7-30 water. I was hammering milk jugs last summer with 260 at 275 yards easily. I have dabbled a bit with rifle scopes on pistols, but still don't have a preference one way or the other.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 03:45 PM

if you said max 150 I would go red dot , but at 250 well you should look through one at a target 250 yards away and see what it looks like

I loose the target easily in my red dot at 200 and that isn't a brown target on a brown background

you can use the simplified fast range estimation for looking at distances , I have gone to some big stores like gander and cabalas and when I was down to 2-3 scopes ask them to accompany me to the front of the store I needed to see more distance , I had paced off the parking lot from where I had parked and knew where my distance was I would looking to see something at

when I bought my binoculars it was at a street sale I was comparing how far I could read peoples shirts or see faces in blocks

simplified range estimation without optics

100 face
200 no face
300 no hands
400 no head
500 no light between legs if they are walking
600 they look like a /\ triangle

you could even park your truck at 250 and put a target in the window so you can see it from the front door of the store
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 05:25 PM

I was just looking through a 2x old straight tube Redfield rifle scope ,Rubberbanded like was said on the Striker.
Using my tripod shooting stick . My wife measured forehead to Scope at 2" to see fully. Now that's so short of eye relief because it's an early 70's scope. So a modern Rifle scope with a 3.5" relief would be even better.
In the shooting house/ blind on the window sill it really could be A close riflescope or long eye relief pistol Scope used. Same for a tripod set up.
This Striker has ZERO Movement backwards from recoil, it will kill unprotected ears, but seriously zero recoil. So no ScopeEye
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I was just looking through a 2x old straight tube Redfield rifle scope ,Rubberbanded like was said on the Striker.
Using my tripod shooting stick . My wife measured forehead to Scope at 2" to see fully. Now that's so short of eye relief because it's an early 70's scope. So a modern Rifle scope with a 3.5" relief would be even better.
In the shooting house/ blind on the window sill it really could be A close riflescope or long eye relief pistol Scope used. Same for a tripod set up.
This Striker has ZERO Movement backwards from recoil, it will kill unprotected ears, but seriously zero recoil. So no ScopeEye



hold it where is would be most comfortable in a prone , seated and shooting house type senario , not where you can see but where it is comfortable for you


pistol scopes are typically 15 inches

scout scopes are 9 inches eye relief

most Vortex rifle scopes are 3.7 inches

that 9 might be a sweet spot for you , the other thing is if it won't interfere with the bolt handle you could cantilever the scope back further with the right mount
Posted By: wyote

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 05:42 PM

I have Bushnell 2X6 elite's, Leupold 2.5X8, and Burris 3X12's that I use for my longer range single shots.

I don't usually scope my six guns but I do have a leupold delta point pro red dot with a 2.5 inch dot on my FA 454.

I've had no problems on any of those scopes.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I was just looking through a 2x old straight tube Redfield rifle scope ,Rubberbanded like was said on the Striker.
Using my tripod shooting stick . My wife measured forehead to Scope at 2" to see fully. Now that's so short of eye relief because it's an early 70's scope. So a modern Rifle scope with a 3.5" relief would be even better.
In the shooting house/ blind on the window sill it really could be A close riflescope or long eye relief pistol Scope used. Same for a tripod set up.
This Striker has ZERO Movement backwards from recoil, it will kill unprotected ears, but seriously zero recoil. So no ScopeEye



hold it where is would be most comfortable in a prone , seated and shooting house type senario , not where you can see but where it is comfortable for you


pistol scopes are typically 15 inches

scout scopes are 9 inches eye relief

most Vortex rifle scopes are 3.7 inches

that 9 might be a sweet spot for you , the other thing is if it won't interfere with the bolt handle you could cantilever the scope back further with the right mount


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I've Decided that either A 3.5" relief or a 9 would be comfortable and would work Better than a Dedicated pistol scope
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 06:08 PM

I'm not holding my breath until you buy one. LOL grin I think that money of yours aint seen the light of day in years. laugh
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 06:15 PM

there are a lot of options now in electronic hearing protection , lets you hear even better than normal then cuts out for the shot

I have a few rifles with muzzle brakes , great to see the bullet impact the target at 200 yards less great to stand next too. the gun doesn't move but all the air around it does.

I had a muzzle break on a 10.5 inch 223 pistol , it already had so little recoil the brake just made it unpleasant to shoot and didn't seem to change the muzzle recoil enough to matter

the 308 rifles with brakes it makes recoil significantly less
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I'm not holding my breath until you buy one. LOL grin I think that money of yours aint seen the light of day in years. laugh

I Haven't had appreciable spending money since my Brown Bear hunt with Waggler in 2018

So that being said...I'm running through my options...I decided against a New Caliber which would thin out My Ammo money in the future. I'm souping up my Savage Striker in .243 so both Dad and I can use it . I am hoping to still have Ammo money afterwards.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I'm not holding my breath until you buy one. LOL grin I think that money of yours aint seen the light of day in years. laugh

I Haven't had appreciable spending money since my Brown Bear hunt with Waggler in 2018

So that being said...I'm running through my options...I decided against a New Caliber which would thin out My Ammo money in the future. I'm souping up my Savage Striker in .243 so both Dad and I can use it . I am hoping to still have Ammo money afterwards.



Just messing with you Scott. But you know buying guns is like having kids, if you wait til you feel like you are comfortable to afford them with the amount of money you have, you may never have them. laugh
Posted By: Whopper Stopper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 08:02 PM

If you want to shoot it or look through it, I am only in Forest Lake. I do get to Pine once in awhile.

The Crossfire gives you fair eye relief. When you get on your target you simply back away a couple inches from the scope. You will still see the cross hairs just fine, just the field of view will be smaller. With a few shots, you get used to it. I went the Burris route when I first started with the TC. Once I started with rifle scopes I sold them.

WS
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 08:39 PM

I know that ADC- It must be Age....I just took a couple weeks to weigh out my options and I'm Glad I did.
This .243 Savage striker sat in my Safe for 15 years not being used.
Now it will get a lot of use. And I didn't need a 350 L limiting my shots.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Whopper Stopper
If you want to shoot it or look through it, I am only in Forest Lake. I do get to Pine once in awhile.

The Crossfire gives you fair eye relief. When you get on your target you simply back away a couple inches from the scope. You will still see the cross hairs just fine, just the field of view will be smaller. With a few shots, you get used to it. I went the Burris route when I first started with the TC. Once I started with rifle scopes I sold them.

WS

I'm 99% ready to buy this

Vortex Crossfire II 3-12x56mm AO Hog Hunter Riflescope w/ V-Brite Reticle CF2-31049, Color: Black, Tube Diameter: 30 mm, 19% Off w/ Free Shipping
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Whopper Stopper
If you want to shoot it or look through it, I am only in Forest Lake. I do get to Pine once in awhile.

The Crossfire gives you fair eye relief. When you get on your target you simply back away a couple inches from the scope. You will still see the cross hairs just fine, just the field of view will be smaller. With a few shots, you get used to it. I went the Burris route when I first started with the TC. Once I started with rifle scopes I sold them.

WS

I'm 99% ready to buy this

Vortex Crossfire II 3-12x56mm AO Hog Hunter Riflescope w/ V-Brite Reticle CF2-31049, Color: Black, Tube Diameter: 30 mm, 19% Off w/ Free Shipping


remember to buy new rings , 30mm is larger than the 1 inch you had on there. extra high 56 is a big bell on the end
Posted By: Whopper Stopper

Re: Pistol scope options - 11/30/21 08:55 PM

Looks good. Just be sure the rings for the TC are high enough for scope clearance.

WS
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 12/01/21 12:22 AM

WS it's for a weaver base on a Savage Striker

GREENC.PETE. Thanks I called Optics Planet back and ordered the Xtra tall Vortex pro rings for 30mm
Glad you mentioned that.

Thanks both of you. I have to call in and pay for that order tomorrow but they're holding the Cyber CYBR coupon price.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pistol scope options - 12/01/21 07:33 PM

Update for ADC

...MY scope is ordered with new 30mm rings
Vortex Crossfire II 3 to 12 x 56

Money's spent ADC cool
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