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MODS - Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics #900784
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Laminating and base plating is a piece of cake compared to welding chew quards on.
My hat is off to the trap mod people.

Formed and welded these chew guards on some #2 double longsprings . We will see how they improve preformance on coons, ect.

Makes the already modded trap seem more attractive.

Heres a couple of pics.







Ready for those ($ 50.00 coons) LOL

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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #900832
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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Pogo] #901064
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Normally I use no 11's, had these no 2 's and thought what the heck give it a try.


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #901074
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look nice ... i have no doubt ya will be happy with them wink


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Looking good Cletis! Be sure to mke a copy of that post on the archives forum.

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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: ] #901279
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Here are some made from 20 penny nails. Holds almost as good as the grizz.



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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #901528
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cletis, what type of rod did ya use


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Tony Dutmers] #901566
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I wonder it you could just use baseplates and maybe cut them down a little


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Tony Dutmers] #901573
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The mod looks great.
One thing I can't tell from your photo is how the guard is place. I have found they work best set flush to the outside of the main jaw. The slight recess gives you a small space between the guards when the trap is closed. This works like and off set and lets the main jaw close farther.
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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: bwatson] #902120
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Originally Posted By: smashedfingers
cletis, what type of rod did ya use


I used 20 penny nail which are about 3/16 of an inche. I bent them on a jig that I made to form baseplates.

Longear it looks like you were able to use straight guards on whats looks like a 1 1/2 montgomery or the new montana. I had to use a formed guard to clear the pivot portion of the pan.

Macthediver the guard wouldn't clear the pivot portion of the pan positioned at the outside of the jaw, had to adjust to the inner position, still ended up 1/8 to 3/16 from edge which should give me ample bite with the edge of jaw. Some of the welds much to my dismay came to the edge of the jaw which makes the guard look flush.

Have a few more 1 1/2 s to reform the jaws and add a new second spring.

Cletis

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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #902166
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Looks good Cletis,should do fine.Your right,they are tricky to put on and get the straight and aligned with eachother.

Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: DFronek] #902393
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They are 1.5's but you have to be careful about thet pan clearance. And like Mac said put they away from where the jaws close. It was fun moding these traps but I might have gone a little overboard on the baseplates. Later longear


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: longear] #902885
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Adc moved as you requested. , liked your jig you came up with, good idea.


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #902926
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I was thinking you need to make some type of jig similar to hold that style in place as well, shouldn't be too hard to design if someone would put their little pea-brain to work on it.... grin

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How about two pairs of vice grips and a large vise........plus a few words of encouragement over each trap. LOL

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I just used one pair vise grips and bowed the nail in the middle a little seemed to work ok. Later Longear


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Originally Posted By: longear
I just used one pair vise grips and bowed the nail in the middle a little seemed to work ok. Later Longear


I also used one pair of grips per guard, elected to position both sides so I did not have to deal with installing second guard while welds where hot or waiting for trap to cool.


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #903173
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I just hold the guard in place by hand and tack then weld.Trap is secured in the jaws of a vise grip by the base.The vise grips are welded to a 1/2" nut thats threaded onto a rod that is held in a vise.This way I can clamp the trap in do one chew guard turn the trap and do the other side.


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LOL Blak Coyote hold and tack,you missed reading about my welding skills.


(Some of the welds much to my dismay came to the edge of the jaw which makes the guard look flush.)

Im using shielded wire and it makes it difficult to see the bead with all of the fumes.

That is a great set-up and quick too.

Thanks

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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #904157
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Nice Job Cletis! Yes...modifying traps is sure a bunch of work. I've done up some Dukes where there is so little stock trap left...might as well have made the whole trap up from scratch...LOL. Performance wise..well worth the time to mod traps. But after about 5 dozen...you start questioning your sanity...LOL.

I think I'll be saving my time and buying MB 550s and MB 450s anymore. I just got some of those and am very impressed. Must be getting lazy... or maybe just smarter...don't know which...LOL.


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[quote=TasteLikeChicken. Performance wise..well worth the time to mod traps. But after about 5 dozen...you start questioning your sanity...LOL.

I think I'll be saving my time and buying MB 550s and MB 450s anymore. I just got some of those and am very impressed. Must be getting lazy... or maybe just smarter...don't know which...LOL. [/quote]

I'm starting to think the same way TLC . Those 550-450's right out of the box clean and wax add anchor system of choice and go.

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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #906906
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Thought....do you really need BOTH guards? I'm picturing a coon only being able to work one side (the side w/o guard)just thinking out loud here...might be interesting to see what the results would be???

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Guess it matters whether or not you catch a right handed coon in a left guarded trap.........LOL


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Re: Trap mods.......Chew Guards...Pics [Re: Cletis Richards] #907026
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Looks like a fine job to me Cletis. Blak is probably one of the best in the business, so his input is as good as it gets. If he says they look good, then you done it right. Thanks for the pics.


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