tryed these 2 first i've ever tryd what am i doin wrong??? i set them and they hardly stay set without anything touching the pan and i have the pan tension a lot more stout then i would normaly use

I'm not seeing the pics or links to pics.

the bottom was my first a little far in a beleave and the top was my second

is the dog tip flat or is it rounded?

What did you do to the end of the dog? You need to file it too. I file mine at an angle.

i squared it off

yeah i have problems with this but i think i figured it out you need to make the second notch a little shallower as the arc of the dog wont catch on some thing that deep. also sqare up your dog tops. i did mine with a dremel though.....

what kinda angle do u file it at??


in the pictures did i do that part right or is there somethin i outta change?

http://malcolmhess.home.mindspring.com/triggers.htm

Pay close attention to the angles.

~ADC~

thnx ADC printed the picture of and will try it again tomarrow hopefully with a lil btr results

What difference does it make if the dog is filed at an angle or flush?

With the dog filed at an angle you reduce any drag and get a nice crisp fire.

If you look at the mechanics of the 45 degree slope insures a crisp break when the dog leaves the notch.

Also if you short notch the pan or have a short notch in the night-latch method you are assured of full engagement reguardless of the level or angle the dog approaches the notch.

With the dog squared and coming in at an upward angle the bottom of the dog will hit first limiting engagement.

The first time I saw the night latch with an angle on the dog was at the NTA convention at Hutchington Ks at a gentlemans table, one look first hand the mechanics were obivious and an improvement. The gentlemans name was Charles Dobbins.

Cletis.

It looks to me like your step is too deep in both directions. That is a pretty large jump for the dog to make and still stay set. Start small and increase as needed.

Few points, keep you PAN LEVEL, when filing.
I like to file the UNDERSIDE of my dog at a slight angle and make sure the TOP of the dog is FLAT.......sometimes there is a bump on the end.

Don't forget to close the slop out of the dog eye.

..........just checked out ADC's link, good info.