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LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... #842042
08/19/08 12:29 PM
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Anything Wrong with NOT treating your well greased traps before season?

Targeting Coon & Mink, will have traps pushed down in mud, and have their protective layer of grease on them.

I'm too "lazy" to dip in water/vinegar solution, let them rust, dye them, wax them...... yada yada yada..... IT'S JUST TOO BORING FOR ME!


WILL IT AFFECT MY CATCH?

I know last season I caught a few dozen coons in shiney traps.

SHOULD I BE WORRIED?

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842048
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i think you already know the answer, but ... id advise cleaning the traps up at the end of the season AT LEAST, or ya will get a bit of trap damage


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842050
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Don't fix what ain't broke then. Thousands upon thousands of coon & mink have fell to this untreated trap.


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Gary] #842052
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AGREED! Gary.

That first warm day in the spring, everything gets a good spraying with the power washer.


Besides k9 traps, I'm semi-anal about them, probably because I hang with Chaz too much. grin

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Dead Coyote] #842056
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In this book I read once it says you have to clean them properly while wearing gloves, and then dye them properly, and then wax them. But you have to wear your gloves to keep human scent off of them. It said if you skip any of those procedures your catch will drastically drop off. So I took it to heart and do it every year, and you should do the same.


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Gary] #842057
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Trapping and being lazy should not be used in the same sentence.

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: PA TRAPPER] #842059
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Originally Posted By: DANE
Trapping and being lazy should not be used in the same sentence.



AGREED!!



BUT, Trap PREP & Lazy, can CERTAINLY be used in the same sentence! grin

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842065
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My cannine stuff is done the right way. For the rest of the body grips and stuff that I place in the water or in cubbies I just give them a quick wash or boil if I'm doing my cannine stuff.

I'd think a rich farm kid would have plenty of time on his to take care of his supplys. LOL. laugh


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Tightchain] #842067
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LOL

Like, I said, it's just boring to me. I have a short attention span. If a butterfly glides across the lawn, I'm chasing it, and my traps boil over........


MIGHT give Newt a holler for some F-1, since I FORGOT IT AT THE NTA CONVENTION, SON OF A GUUUUUN! grin

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842081
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What's Montour do all the trap setting as your chasing butterflies. Now that has me rolling hard. LMAO


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Tightchain] #842085
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LOL

Montour doesn't do anything to his traps but spit shine them, and put em in the ground, he rolls hard, and kills hard too!! Even the butterflies! grin

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842124
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Someone please consult Lynxcat on the excessive use of uppercase in this thread.

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: boyswannatrap] #842130
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I don't do anything to mine unless they are K-9 traps. Mink and coon sets? Never. I may spray paint them black to blend better, but that's about it.


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: TrappinK-9's] #842160
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I have noticed that untreated traps do fine in water UNTIL the water level drops and they are exposed to air. Then the rust sets in overnight.

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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: TN_Trapper] #842170
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ya also get dog, and pan notch damage .... also rust build up on the notch and dog ya dont get the crisp action i like to have for mink


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842225
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While growing up I stored all mine in and old outhouse.. K9 and water traps, never treated them Still caught plenty of fur as a young pup back then.. Most of this contamination stuff is hogwash...

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842265
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For gawdsake nick you hafta treat them traps who knows what kind of mayhem you may unleash if you buck the traditions established by years of trapping experience. Its just not worth it now put down your fru fru drink, get your feet out of the pink inflatable kidde pool and go get busy with those traps.

Besides how will we ever be able to respect you if we all know you didn't do any prep work on those traps when you are posting all those muddy iowa coon pics this fall

LMAO


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: mudtracker] #842385
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Nick, I am not going to answer ya for fear of offending somebody.


"I stop putting catchy phrases in my signature because too many of you morons keep stealing them to put on your facebook pages....."


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: j morris] #842408
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Bob Wendts does not dye ? traps

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: CRAZYFOX] #842448
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Me either! Just boil clean and wax. What's the differance if your going to bury them in dirt anyway. Just make sure you clean them up at the season's end, if not before.


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842579
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Originally Posted By: Nick C
LOL



MIGHT give Newt a holler for some F-1, grin


nothing but logwood dye for my traps. But thats how I roll.

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842850
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At least do them all out the first year with the clean, rust, dye, and wax. Then you can get lazy after that. I usually do mine each year as an excuse to get away from the wife and play with my traps and drink a few barley pops. Gun Nut

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842859
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nothing wrong with it at all if you like mistreating your equipment and have the $$$$ to buy new traps.


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Gun Nut] #842863
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the only thing you need to worry about is using Bob`s "Yada,yada,yada"
you should be sceeerd,that trip did you in laugh

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: foxkidd44] #842870
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Nick How hard is it to wax a trap?
Come on, 1/2 an hour to heat up the wax, 1 minute per 3 traps, in no time your done, traps are fast, protected .
I just have never found it that hard to wax, mid season blow off the dirty ones at the carwash and rewax....B....


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: foxkidd44] #842878
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Originally Posted By: foxkidd44
nothing wrong with it at all if you like mistreating your equipment and have the $$$$ to buy new traps.



Mistreating is the word you used.

Like I said, they have a protective covering of grease. Plus, isn't it advocated by EVERYONE to rust your traps before dying or dipping? So how would leaving them in the water or land, exposed, to get an EXCELLENT coat of rust on them be considered "mistreating" ?


LOL, DONNIE, "Yada, Yada, Yada" is something I picked up from SEINFELD!

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: brianroberts] #842885
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Originally Posted By: BrianRoberts
Nick How hard is it to wax a trap?
Come on, 1/2 an hour to heat up the wax, 1 minute per 3 traps, in no time your done, traps are fast, protected .
I just have never found it that hard to wax, mid season blow off the dirty ones at the carwash and rewax....B....



I agree, I agree. My coyote traps will get waxed.


The 7 dozen new Duke 1.5's I got for coon/mink will be naked this season.

Just had to stir T-Man up a bit, ya know, an out of the "norm" dye/wax/dip post. grin

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842887
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Nick you are absolutely right.I always like the greasy and shiny look on my coon traps.The rainbow in the water after I place my trap is a welcome sight to all critters that pass by.Last but not least I also add tin foil to the pan for more shine.It seems as though the bigger boar coon love the shine.Big Iowa boars like the bling bling brotha.LMFAO!!!!!


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: Montour Cooner] #842920
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should be fine for anything other than canine trapping till next spring,then i would dye if rusty

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: coonman220] #842933
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Nick, I have a "few" traps to dye. Bring them on up and you can throw them in my pot!

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: BigT] #842939
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lol, Yeah, a "few"

I also have a "few".

If I start having Nightmares, I'll use F-1.

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: ] #842974
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It doesn't take long to treat them.

If you don't mind buying traps sooner than you need to, then don't do anything with them. Many people take pride in good treated traps, good sets, and well handled furs.

To each their own.... smile

Have fun!!


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You'll end up with more energy and more fur in the back of the truck!

Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: conibear1] #843026
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would depend a great deal on where one trapped, trapping the small farm ponds or deep ditch runn offs in northwestern kansas where the acids and salts from 40 years of dumping oil feild water has occured and those oily traps will be pitted beyond recognition in about 5 days, run off ditches below hog confinement building or cattle feedlots are often as bad as well as settleing ponds, its not what ya can get away with for many folks, its where.


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: conibear1] #843031
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Nick go to bed! Some day when you grow up you can be like your big brother Bob, or was that K-9?


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Re: LIVING ON THE EDGE...NOT DYING, WAXING, DIPPING... [Re: trapperray] #843083
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Nick, that moving water in the "cricks" will wash the mud off them traps, that shiny pan showing will get them coon curious and they will start playing with traps, flipping them out of the trap bed... tripped empty traps in your future! Combined with the slow reaction of the trap from not bieng waxed adding too many toe catches, leading to escapes...

I really don't know if any of that will happen but if it does, now I can say "I told you so! laugh "

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Most people like to dye and wax there traps to keep them in good condition for several years to come.


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Ive ran brand new traps straight out of box a time or two.....I think the oil film floating in water camoflauges the trap.

Once got down to last 1.65 brig in box, had a flat bank that wouldnt hold a hole, so I tore one end off box, planted it upside down and threw some fish in it, set trap at open end. 3 coons 3 nights till box kinda "melted"

The secret RK N.T.B. (new trap box) cubby set.

Hows that for a freebie!! LOL. See what you could of had at the NTA for free, 100s of NTB in dumpters all over fairgrounds.


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