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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783956
07/11/08 04:51 PM
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 Originally Posted By: j lord
charles have you ever had a coyote put a stick in a foothold???


ill play.

Nope.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783959
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now, WHY would a beaver go in its lodge with a allready old aten stick?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????

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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783962
07/11/08 04:52 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins
I can't say that I've every known a situation where a beaver threw a 330 with a stick on purpose.

I have known them to throw 330s though. I watched one do it, not once, but twice. The beaver approached the submerged body grip and right when it got to the trap, it did a forward summersault and it hit the trap with it's tail. I would have thought that the beaver recognized that it was a trap when it got close and turned quickly and accidentally fired the trap..... except I reset the trap and watched the beaver do it a second time. This was about ten feet from where a ditch emptied into a pond. The beaver would swim around the mouth of the ditch until I got done setting and then I backed off.... then it would come in and do its trick. I had Backbreaker behind the trap and I reckon that beaver wanted to get to it. If I'd have not approached the trap immediately after it fired it, I don't know if it would have gone past the fired trap to get to the lure. I pulled that trap because I was sure it would have been a waste of time leaving it. A CDR at a fake castor mound where the ditch entered the pond took care of this beaver.



Boss, if he does that to a Belisle he only does it once. I have pictures


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783964
07/11/08 04:53 PM
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lol me either, so i don't think a beaver is any smarter than a yote.

if a beaver could do it, don't ya think a yote could too? ;\)


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783965
07/11/08 04:56 PM
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Mr. Karma, I've also caught beavers with green sticks in Dukes. Beaver and sticks were there. Don't matter what trap it is when sticks miss the trigger until the head is pushin on the trigger.



Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: j lord] #783966
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 Originally Posted By: j lord
lol me either, so i don't think a beaver is any smarter than a yote.

if a beaver could do it, don't ya think a yote could too? ;\)


suckhole

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Paul Dobbins] #783968
07/11/08 04:57 PM
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Charles, Didn't I take that picture?? LOL

I see nothing.....I know nothing.....

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783973
07/11/08 04:59 PM
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you did.

and remember me calling you on the phone the next day, after you were back home, and i was pulling it out of the den, alive?



there he is, the stick poking educated last beaver in the pond.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #783975
07/11/08 05:01 PM
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LOL, LOL

Remember the coyote we called up, that about run us over.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783986
07/11/08 05:20 PM
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yea!

he came from YOUR direction....

then, in all his intellegence, stopped at a well copied mouth originated bark, not only once, but TWICE!

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #783989
07/11/08 05:21 PM
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I am no pro but I have caught lots of beavers and rats. I have never seen beaver work a connibear and throw it but. I have watched their patterns once they become trap wise. There is no question that beaver sometimes become aware of traps being a threat in their living area. I like most trappers have had success in areas where beaver have become trap wise using snares. The beaver are still there but they are NOT SWIMMING THROUGH A BODY GRIPPER. That doesnt mean that one will not slip up and do it but once they become wise to the trap their instinct is very keem
I also feel that they intetionally fire traps by using sticks and mud. I have not seen it but my experience tells me that mature beaver are not only protecting themselves but their young as well.
I will go a step farther and here some fellow trappers will really think I am stepping out on a limb but I belive that hard trapping pressure will make muskrats wise as well. Not nearly as wise as beavers, but we make a mistake when we underestimate the animals we pursue.
Good luck.

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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: kybeaverman] #784002
07/11/08 05:38 PM
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Smart coyotes don't dig up traps, they never go near sets!


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #784007
07/11/08 05:41 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CharlesKS
OK, beaver pros,

my boss says he dont believe a beaver will use a stick to fire off traps, as i was telling him they do, ive had it happen

pics would be awesome.


Yes Charles beaver will seek out and destroy traps using "weapons of opportunity" (sticks). Once a trap is located by the forward or recon element of the colony, they send out the signal to the rest of the colony. This signal is a high pitched squeal that cannot be heard by the human ear, but can be heard by every beaver in a 2 mile radious. The beaver then pinpoint the source of the signal within + or - 2 feet. They converge on this spot where they get an intel dump from the recon element. Once the brief is complete the security element will punch out and set up blocking positions at likely avenues of aproach. The recon element remains behind with HQ, and the assult element makes its move on the objective (the trap). This 3 beaver element usually has a primary and secondary breacher, both of wich are carrying sticks, the third is just there for moral support. With one swift, precision movement the primary jams the stick into the trap setting it off and forever keeping the colony safe. I hope this helps.

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: ] #784011
07/11/08 05:44 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Buzzard



A educated beaver will just turn into a ghost but still be there


An educated beaver is about like having hemorrhoids removed by a dentist.

Rickey

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Uncle Fester] #784014
07/11/08 05:46 PM
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I always thought it was the keebler elve's that put those sticks in my trap, lol.


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784027
07/11/08 05:58 PM
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CHIMPANZEES CAN USE STICKS AS TOOL!

Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: CharlesKS] #784028
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They also have 97 percent of the same dna we have!

How much does a beaver have? lol.


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784053
07/11/08 06:34 PM
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just my opinion, but if you have ANY old educated criiter, they will try to avoid gettin snapped, lol


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: NACooner] #784077
07/11/08 07:03 PM
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i'm sorry but i just can't give that much credit to a beaver, a rodent with a brain the size of a walnut imo, is not going to think "i bet if i hit these two little metal sticks with this soft chewy stick that i can make this 'trap' close and it won't be able to hurt me or my kids and we can swim around all we want".

now get accustomed to seeing a square object that "the last time i got close to one of these things it almost bit me", yeah i can believe that.

you folks that have had "square" 330 conni shy beaver ever tried a RBG and see what happens??

i set a square one in a den entrance and that beaver didnt go near her den for three days, i put a RBG in place of the square one and i caught her two nights later.


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Re: HELP ME settle a BEAVER issue [Re: Jtrapper] #784083
07/11/08 07:07 PM
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IMO...they do not trigger them on purpose. It is accidental. They try to "thread" the stick they are carrying through the 330 and maybe make it trip...or get caught head and stick. I've also caught beaver with sticks and their feet in MB 750s. Once again...just putting the stick down, picking it up etc.


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