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#654685 - 03/28/08 07:13 AM Polar Bear in Fort Yukon
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Alaska, USA
Check this out from the Daily News Minor:

Polar Bear Killed in Fort Yukon

Polar bear killed in Fort Yukon
By Mary Beth Smetzer

Published Friday, March 28, 2008

A polar bear wandering around the outskirts of the Interior village of Fort Yukon, 250 miles inland from its normal coastal habitat, was spotted eating lynx carcasses Thursday morning and was killed later in the day because of safety concerns.

The bear was first spotted outside a cabin on the edge of town by Peter John, said Tony Carroll, who had recently been skinning lynx at the cabin.

Most people didn’t believe him, Carroll said, but as word spread around town, more than a half dozen hunters began tracking the bear.

Zeb Cadzow, maintenance director at the Council of Athabascan Tribal Government, took off work after lunch to join in the hunt.

“There’s usually grizzly around this time of year,” he said. “You want to get rid of it because it’s hungry.”

The men tracked the bear three miles out of town to the Porcupine River, where it moved onto a river island.

At that point, most of the hunters returned to Fort Yukon for a sled dog race, leaving Cadzow, 30, and Paul Herbert, 60, to continue the hunt.

“We assumed we were chasing a grizzly bear,” Herbert said.

Cadzow concurred, thinking the white description meant it was an albino bear or a grizzly covered in frost.

While Herbert waited at one end of the island, Cadzow, on foot, went into the brush tracking the bear.

Suddenly, the bear came out from under a brush pile about 10 yards away. It charged straight at Cadzow, who was carrying an AR-15, a rifle similar to the U.S. Army’s M-16.

The encounter was so close, Cadzow said, he didn’t have time to lift and sight the rifle.

“I shot from the hip, seven or eight times,” he said. “If I had gotten it to my shoulder, it (bear) would have been on top of me. It happened so quick, by the time it was down, it was about 10 feet from my feet.”

According to the hunters, the young female bear appeared to be in good health and wasn’t starving.

The hunters contacted the Department of Fish and Game in Fairbanks on Thursday and are delivering the hide and head today so biologists can have a closer look at the bear. It will be sent to the Marine Mammal division of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for further study.

After perusing some photographs Thursday evening, [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot] Shideler, a Fish and Game wildlife biologist who studies North Slope grizzly bears, is in cautious agreement.

“I’m not 100 percent sure, but it sure looks like a polar bear. The ear set looks right, so does the head profile, and the feet look pretty big which is pretty typical (of polar bears),” Shideler said.

“It’s definitely not a grizzly. The only other possibility is a hybrid. I’m leaning pretty far towards polar bear,” he said. “It’s a super interesting bear no matter what it turns out to be.”

The Fort Yukon hunters and the village of more than 900 people are still in a state of disbelief that a polar bear wandered so far south.

“I think all 900 people have been by my house today,” said Cadzow, who spent the rest of Thursday skinning the bear hide.

Townspeople in the Yukon River village have been fielding calls from friends and relatives around the state since word about the polar bear has spread.

“It’s quite a shock to our town,” wrote Bonnie Thomas in an e-mail. “Our oldest elder, Rosalie Joseph, 102, passed away. She must have some powerful medicine to bring a polar bear to us.”
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#654717 - 03/28/08 07:32 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: Top Jimmy]
martentrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Nome, Ak.
They're adapting to global warming already!
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#654721 - 03/28/08 07:37 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: martentrapper]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Yeah they must be looking for cooler weather by moving south !
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#654831 - 03/28/08 08:49 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
alaska viking Offline
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Registered: 12/25/07
Loc: juneau, alaska
A biologist that can't be sure of the difference between a grizzly and a polar bear?
Come on. Also, is this a DLP? Probably not if I did it.

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#654852 - 03/28/08 09:00 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: alaska viking]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
They are directly related so it could be an iffy thing. Bearpaw or Moosecaller might give us some wisdom here.


I sure don't see it as DLP and who in their right mind hunts a polar bear with an AR ?
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#654960 - 03/28/08 09:56 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
frozeover Offline
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Registered: 10/03/07
Loc: Alaska
check out the idiots on newsminer.com page.
and yeah get a bigger gun.

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#654973 - 03/28/08 10:01 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: frozeover]
northway Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
Loc: Tok, Alaska
The only thing I can think of why the bio said it is probably a polar bear is because of the polar bear/grizz hybrid that was shot in Canada a few years ago. Otherwise, maybe too much booze that day! \:\)

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#654978 - 03/28/08 10:03 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
yukonjeff Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Loc: MTV.Alaska
 Originally Posted By: white17
They are directly related so it could be an iffy thing. Bearpaw or Moosecaller might give us some wisdom here.


I sure don't see it as DLP and who in their right mind hunts a polar bear with an AR ?

No Kidding....most here,would of been out after it with a 22
they get one down by Hopper Bay,every once in awhile.

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#655030 - 03/28/08 10:32 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: northway]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
 Originally Posted By: northway
The only thing I can think of why the bio said it is probably a polar bear is because of the polar bear/grizz hybrid that was shot in Canada a few years ago. Otherwise, maybe too much booze that day! \:\)



I think he may have been hedging his bets. I suppose there is some chance it was a hybrid or some mutant gene, white-phase grizzly.

The polar bears split off from the brown bears of the ABC islands about 35,000 years ago. That's pretty recent relatively speaking so I can understand the guy wanting to be cautious with his statements.
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#655045 - 03/28/08 10:38 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Alaska, USA
You know, this kind of blows the theory of all the "sky is falling" global warming people that say that the polar bears will go extinct if the ice is all gone. Here is a bear that is 250 miles inland that was perfectly healthy and able to survive on land.

If the ice goes away, there is nothing from keeping them from living on land.

-TJ
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#655065 - 03/28/08 10:49 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
northway Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
Loc: Tok, Alaska
 Originally Posted By: white17
 Originally Posted By: northway
The only thing I can think of why the bio said it is probably a polar bear is because of the polar bear/grizz hybrid that was shot in Canada a few years ago. Otherwise, maybe too much booze that day! \:\)



I think he may have been hedging his bets. I suppose there is some chance it was a hybrid or some mutant gene, white-phase grizzly.

The polar bears split off from the brown bears of the ABC islands about 35,000 years ago. That's pretty recent relatively speaking so I can understand the guy wanting to be cautious with his statements.


I agree! Seems to be a little reserved with his statements!

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#655067 - 03/28/08 10:50 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
Alaskan Offline
"AMY SUE"

Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Gnome, Alaska
 Originally Posted By: white17
who in their right mind hunts a polar bear with an AR ?


You mean you don't???? I won't get into it, but it is NOT uncommon to see hunts with a banana clip and their AR.
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#655126 - 03/28/08 11:39 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: Alaskan]
Kusko Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Bethel, AK
DLP??
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#655144 - 03/28/08 11:58 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: Kusko]
Hupurest
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It’s definitely not a grizzly. The only other possibility is a hybrid. I’m leaning pretty far towards polar bear,” he said. “It’s a super interesting bear no matter what it turns out to be.”

so, if it is definetly not a grizzly bear, isn't that saying then in fact it is a polar bear???

and if it was in fact a polar bear, they should be arrested and cited for killing it.
DLP??? no way, they did it.. like swating a hornets nest and then getting stung..

i say jail time if it is a polar bear.

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#655146 - 03/28/08 11:58 AM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: Kusko]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
DLP = defense of life & property
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#655150 - 03/28/08 12:00 PM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
Hupurest
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I know what it means, i was making a statement,
Like " they are claiming DLP?"

how is it DLP when you go into the bushes chasing it and it chases you back????

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#655153 - 03/28/08 12:03 PM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: ]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
I thought it was KUSKO asking what DLP meant so I assumed an explanation was needed of course.


I agree. It sure doesn't seem like DLP to me. I doubt there will be an investigation let alone prosecution.
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#655156 - 03/28/08 12:05 PM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: white17]
Hupurest
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does that set a Precedence????

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#655185 - 03/28/08 12:28 PM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: ]
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Alaska, USA
I know that Alaska Natives (not just Inuit) in Barrow are allowed to hunt and take polar bears, just like they can take seals and walrus. I would bet that the same rules will apply to the villagers in Fort Yukon as well and it probably doesn't matter if it was DLP or not.

-TJ
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#655213 - 03/28/08 12:47 PM Re: Polar Bear in Fort Yukon [Re: Top Jimmy]
Hupurest
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that is a load of crap james....they are 200 miles from the coast, traditionaly I guarantee they didn't hunt polar bears..
Just another convenient "excuse" for the crap..it is subsistence or tradition.... I got an idea how about they susbsist or tradition out of kivalina??? or subsist or tradition the fuel costs and power costs??? or susbsit themselves a new school.

so by that rational, IF for Schnitz and giggles there was one in Anch, and Eklutna native could shoot it???

BULL CRAP.......

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