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#642603 - 03/21/08 09:06 AM Sodium Benzoate
jason Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Ridgeway,MO
How much of this stuff should a guy use in a gallon of bait to preserve it?

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#642606 - 03/21/08 09:08 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: jason]
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Most say one cup SB/gallon of meat base is enough. I use double that because it didn't work fast/well enough for me at 1cup/gallon.

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#642608 - 03/21/08 09:08 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: jason]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: rual retreat va. soon be 19
think it's 4 tablespoons to the gallon but use a bit more.
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#642610 - 03/21/08 09:11 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: cotton]
jason Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Ridgeway,MO
ive always just dumped a pile in there, never really measured, does fish based bait require a little more?

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#642612 - 03/21/08 09:12 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: jason]
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one pint or two cups per gallon works for my fish based bait.

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#642616 - 03/21/08 09:14 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: ]
jason Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Ridgeway,MO
alright thanks alot, what about the glycerin to keep it from freezing?

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#642619 - 03/21/08 09:18 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: jason]
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again one pint/gallon on the glyceryn as well is what I use. Works great!

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#642620 - 03/21/08 09:19 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: ]
jason Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Ridgeway,MO
thanks alot!

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#642637 - 03/21/08 09:34 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: jason]
Mark June Offline
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Registered: 05/17/07
Loc: Ft. Calhoun, Nebraska
Folks, the amount of SB or glycerine or even glycol to use depends ABSOLUTELY on what's being preserved. Fish and shellfish products require more most often and the ratios shown on this post are pretty accurate. You add more... it stops faster. These ingredients are super cheap compared to some agents we lure makers use to stop decomposition so go ahead and pour it to 'er!
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#642688 - 03/21/08 10:26 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: Mark June]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: South metro, MN
Jason...go to the "Archive" section under Lures, baits and urines. Its in there along with some other real good stuff.
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#642704 - 03/21/08 10:50 AM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: Calvin]
possum skinner
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hmmmm ... if'n I was selling SB I'd agree with the above ratio's ... BUT I don't so ... why use excess when you can get the same results using what's actually needed?

I could fry one dinky chicken wing in a gallon of oil ... yeah fry oil is cheap and I'd end up with a fried chicken wing but what a waste of oil ... when it could have been done with way less with the same outcome?

For general meat base baits such as red meats (g-hog, beaver etc.) approximately one cup or 8 ounces per gallon of ground/chunked meat is sufficent ... yes, it will take several days to achieve a "stop" ... but what is wrong with that? If that four, five or seven days is so critical you're doing something I don't understand \:\)

Yes, fish baits will require more ... personally I think it has something to do with the fish meat density and the rapid break down ... but ask around fish is hard to stabilize consistently even by seasoned "pros" ... so yeah on fish ya might want to pour it to 'er! ... lol

Glycerine is a antifreeze far more than a preservative ... I think the misconception comes from the fact that the thick oily glycerine coats the meat chunks or ground meat ... blocking air to it ... thus if anything slowing decomposition but not truely preserving it ... the amount used would be based on quantity as much as desired consistency

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#642831 - 03/21/08 12:14 PM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: ]
MikeTraps2 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Ames, IA
Another big thing to remember about glycerine is too much can kill the odor of the bait!

I found this when I used to make my k9 bait, just enough and the bait smell was great to much and you could barely smell the bait.

Probably due to what PS said above about it covering the surface area of the bait and not lett air inor out.

The glycerine is an antifreeze agent not so much a preservative as PS also pointed out

just my 2 cents.

MikeD

as for SB to add to baits I use about a cup mixed in warm water to a gallon of red meat (the water helps it coat the bait better)
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#642908 - 03/21/08 01:00 PM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: MikeTraps2]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: South metro, MN
Asa wrote (in Archives)

Fish will take at least a couple of weeks to settle down once sodium benzoate is added especially if it has been tainting. Fish also requires additional preservative over what is needed for meat, about 12 ozs per gallon of fish instead of 8 ozs. If you bottle fish right away chances are you will explode the bottles with gas buildup inside of the bottle. Ace
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#642911 - 03/21/08 01:02 PM Re: Sodium Benzoate [Re: Calvin]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: South metro, MN
Asa wrote, also:

I believe that sodium benzoate better penetrates more thoroughly and acts quicker if one dissolves it in warm water first. Ace
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