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#5847848 - 03/15/17 11:32 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: RiversNorth13]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 1142
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: RiversNorth13


I didn't know New Hampshire had wolves and as far as ours being smaller is not accurate .
Wolves are not big coyotes , use adequate gear or you will be paying the price !


Nice wolf! That's a dandy.
I don't think ours average as big as out west, but it's not like yote trapping, you got that right.
I've been through Wi's wolf trapper training course a few years ago. Interesting course for those that have access to 1 like it.
Way to go on that trophy. Good photo. smile
As far as size of trap, I think some of the traps they use in Canada still aren't legal here, particularly before 12/1. The instructor (govt trapper) used a double long spring, but I forget which 1.
Those guys on the Wilderness Forum sure do know their stuff. Some interesting reading. Good point.
Freedom Brand makes a nice style saber-tooth drag that might be worth looking at. I think I was told to run around 9' of heavy chain if I remember correctly.


Edited by AJE (03/16/17 12:20 AM)
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#5847912 - 03/16/17 05:46 AM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
luvcanids Offline
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Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 534
Loc: SE PA ,VT,
80 # would be one great coyote--trapped northern Vermont for years and caught a bunch of coyotes. Weighed many and usually had a couple each year that went over 50#. Had a few that I aged by the teeth [no expert] that were 1 1/2 years old and weighed in the high 40s. Seldom saw a female in the 40s. #4 hvy mod Dukes and #3 mod Sleepy Creek and B&L DLS did most of my work. Later years PIT pans on all and were a great improvement in deeper pad and leg catches.


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#5848282 - 03/16/17 02:07 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: luvcanids]
Mac Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1507
Loc: Maine
I would like to see me a 80 pound coyote.

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#5848284 - 03/16/17 02:12 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 1142
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Me too.
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#5848384 - 03/16/17 04:13 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
DERRYNHTRAPPERJO Offline
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Registered: 03/01/17
Posts: 19
Loc: NEW HAMPSHIRE
Perhaps 80# is an overshot. However, every coyote male or female caught this year is in the 3x- jumbo category. Does anyone on here with im sure many years experience , have an idea what a 3x or jumbo dog would weigh? Just curious..
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#5848579 - 03/16/17 07:12 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
ducky Offline
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Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 234
Loc: androscogin county maine
as a mainer and being even closer to the "confirmed" wolves in canada i say 80 is way over kill, 55 lbs is a dang good yote and i personally have seen 2 go over 50 one was caught 3 years ago in a field about 1000 yards from a elementary school and it was 51 next was my personal best i caught in the next fieldover on oct 22 this year at 53 pounds, sure there big but nothing like the powers of a wolf that is 70-110 pounds , if a stock duke 1.75 can hold one its not like a wolf and the 51 was in a stock duke 1.75 , but just my 2cents
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#5848656 - 03/16/17 08:21 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
DERRYNHTRAPPERJO Offline
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Registered: 03/01/17
Posts: 19
Loc: NEW HAMPSHIRE
I use only Montgomery and bridger #2 and #3's. I learned my lesson long ago with undersized and low quality steel.
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#5848661 - 03/16/17 08:24 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
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Registered: 03/01/17
Posts: 19
Loc: NEW HAMPSHIRE
Im not going to make friends with the animal i want to make sure its there when i check my sets. #3's just grab above the pad. I. Think sqare jaws make a big difference as well.
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#5848671 - 03/16/17 08:30 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
DERRYNHTRAPPERJO Offline
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Registered: 03/01/17
Posts: 19
Loc: NEW HAMPSHIRE
I use only Montgomery and bridger #2 and #3's. I learned my lesson long ago with undersized and low quality steel.
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#5848969 - 03/17/17 09:11 AM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
Taximan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 2345
Loc: SW Montana
NAFA lists 2XL but I don't see anything bigger.Coyotes here,rarely go over 30# and my adults go 45-48".An early pup this year was under 42".A yearling wolf will go 80#.

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#5850868 - 03/19/17 12:31 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
Zagman Offline
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 364
Loc: Central New York State
I am NOT saying an 80 lb coyote doesn't exist, but supposin' they do based on NAFA grading sizes is not good science or proof....but rather, purely supposition......our NY pups makes 2XL or better at NAFA, but its a stretch to go from a 35 lb coyote to 80 based on 3XL-4XL-5XL....

A LOT of what I want to say AND show, regarding coyote size, is in this thread......

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea..._as#Post5427485

Not sure how to just have it show on thread, but the pics and such I want to demonstrate are in that thread......

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#5850921 - 03/19/17 01:45 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
ebsurveyor Offline
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Registered: 09/10/11
Posts: 338
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO
Perhaps 80# is an overshot. However, every coyote male or female caught this year is in the 3x- jumbo category. Does anyone on here with im sure many years experience , have an idea what a 3x or jumbo dog would weigh? Just curious..


45 pounds

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#5851271 - 03/19/17 06:49 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
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Registered: 11/10/13
Posts: 2230
Loc: Bland Virginia
Most people don't weigh there coyotes and those are the trappers that say they always catch 50lb yotes. Are biggest ever was a 45lb female and second biggest 43 lb male. We weigh all are Virginia yotes. 30lbs is average weight on females and 35 on males. Fifty pounds to us would be huge coyote.
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#5851308 - 03/19/17 07:24 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 990
Loc: Southern Michigan
Actual 50 pound coyotes are rare, but I have weighed 4 in the last 3 years out of close to 200. The heaviest are Deep chested like there bigger cousins. The average male is 40 and females 35. Some adults are more robust than others. Alot of mine are 48 -50+ inches on boards. Body weight is not a true measure, some are fat some are skinny just like all life forms. Then there are 25 -30 pound adults showing up that are more like western yotes. Weird dynamics for sure..
As stated above look at the wilderness thread for rock solid wolf info


Edited by trappergbus (03/19/17 07:25 PM)
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#5851322 - 03/19/17 07:29 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
rick olson Offline
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Registered: 04/19/12
Posts: 1578
Loc: Northern Mn
I know from all the trappers around here i never heard of a 50lb coyote.45lbs have been the largest including my largest as well.

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#5851772 - 03/20/17 09:22 AM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
ebsurveyor Offline
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Registered: 09/10/11
Posts: 338
Loc: PA
I have put between 100-200 BIG WOODS North Maine coyotes on a GOOD Scale. The largest was 47.5 pounds.


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#5852362 - 03/20/17 08:53 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
trappergbus Offline
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 990
Loc: Southern Michigan
I must have an terrific forage base then, all of em had lots of fat.
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#5852520 - 03/20/17 11:42 PM Re: Longspring for wolves [Re: DERRYNHTRAPPERJO]
mad_mike Offline
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Registered: 01/01/08
Posts: 445
Loc: Southeast Alaska
OP, the SC 4.5 is up to the task without any mods.

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