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#5845406 - 03/13/17 11:50 PM Nuisance Beaver
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 1159
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Do you use a much different technique, trap, or lures for out of season nuisance beaver trapping than you do during season? Just curious if their actions and behavior is different throughout the year. How do you trap the new young beavers. Tricks to avoid incidental otter? I have a spot that I'll be nuisance trapping this year. They are bank beavers in a large creek, and are really hammering the oak trees. Thanks


Edited by AJE (03/13/17 11:52 PM)
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#5845645 - 03/14/17 08:55 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
Jim Comstock Offline
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Registered: 02/11/11
Posts: 42
Loc: New York
Using castor for beaver is a great way to avoid otter, in or out of season. Castor sets placed in thick stuff in which you have made a small opening for the trap or traps will bring the beaver to you, large and small, male or female and castor does not attract otter. I like to place castor on the bank and keep the traps back from the lure, 5 to 50 feet usually, but I have sometimes had traps even farther from the lure depending on situation. Beaver will find it. The public won't find the castor sets either since there is no apparent rhyme or reason to what you have done, nothing obvious to find, no trail, no cross over, no castor mound either, just lure on the bank.

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#5848744 - 03/16/17 09:39 PM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
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Well I would disagree on otter not being attracted to beaver castor.


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#5852611 - 03/21/17 07:27 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
shorthair Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1459
Loc: Maine
I've caught otter using castor but I think it is the slide type Entrance/exit spot that may attract them. And when I say castor is Dobbins Back breaker. Maybe there's something else in it they're attracted too. Oh, and we're talking experience that counts beaver by the whopping dozens, so take my experience with a ounce of castor:)


Edited by shorthair (03/21/17 07:28 AM)
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#5852645 - 03/21/17 08:06 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
Jim Comstock Offline
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Registered: 02/11/11
Posts: 42
Loc: New York
Yes, I have caught one otter at a castor set, that I remember, in the past twenty something years where there seemed to be no reason that I could see for the otter to be attracted to site. The day, the set is a vivid memory. I remember being incredibly surprised. In that same time period I know I've taken 1000 beaver with castor, cages, snares, conibears and a footholds. The key was not setting at a beaver crawl out or anything either a beaver or otter had made, not setting on the dam corners or setting near or on otter toilets, but making the castor set in a secluded location in thick stuff unto itself, nothing open, so that only a beaver would be interested in it, and no mound either, just lure. The castor I used had no major additives, just castor with a few drops of whatever I had to enhance.

The other main element in otter avoidance is setting at dark just as the beaver emerge. In this way the beaver are the first critters to come to the site. Sets made at 8 p.m. or later in summer are likely to make a catch in a couple of hours or even as short as minutes, meaning that when a non-target does arrive at the site the trap already has a beaver in it. Castor sets are and can be made to be pretty much species specific. The idea in any beaver trapping to avoid otter is keep the number of sets down, use castor to bring the beaver to you and to catch the beaver as quickly as possible so that otter or others creatures have no time to reach traps. A pair of beaver can be taken in a few hours with but 2 sets. Late setting with few traps even helps with channel sets.

Additionally, if swim through cages are used with castor, with the traps set just above the water level a couple of inches, a live otter can be released. No matter what the targetted animal, its nice to be able to remove the problem critters while leaving the rest intact, as in positive sets for skunks, chucks etc. Nothing is perfect or foolproof, but you can bring the odds way down.

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#5852693 - 03/21/17 08:44 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
Boco Offline
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Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 10947
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Avoid crossovers and other natural travel routes that both otter and beaver use,this includes bank holes and den holes and their runs.
Castor sets,set heavy and get the beaver and pull.The longer you leave sets,the more chance you have of catching an otter.Learn to identify dry land crossovers,and keep your castor sets away from these also.
Nothing is 100% but castor sets away from travel routes will be extremely low chance to catch otter.
Setting the triggers on your 330's off to the side will help you avoid otters and other non targets(not as effective with submerged traps).


Edited by Boco (03/21/17 08:52 AM)

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#5853690 - 03/22/17 09:02 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
Jim Comstock Offline
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Registered: 02/11/11
Posts: 42
Loc: New York
Yes, time is of the essence, very important. The least amount of time sets are in at a given location, the better, fewest total trap nights. Dovetailing with cross over avoidance is trap theft. In secluded areas, no problem, but in urban /suburban sites, houses, people, a cross over set is easy to spot and what a trap thief looks for. During the off season if you are spotted by a trapper looking for trouble, he will easily find you on a dam or crossover. A short stay will diminish the chances of theft. Again, in a secluded area you can set crossovers with swim through cages just above the surface so that otter can be released.

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#5854632 - 03/23/17 11:00 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
Michigan Trappin Offline
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Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 2336
Loc: MI
Beaver floats can be a good thing (not exclusive as all beavers will not go in)

But I like to add them where people and dogs may be present as I can put them out away from shore
Like this

Or put them out in the thick stuff where there is no channels or dry area for a castor mound

This one worked two days ago

Again there are not the go to sets but they have there place
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#5855180 - 03/23/17 08:00 PM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
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Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Good info.
I'm getting ready to make a beaver float (if I refine 1 & it works, I'll make a couple). Is any kind of straight solid dead tree (in the 3-5" thick range) effective for the frame?


Edited by AJE (03/23/17 08:01 PM)
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#5855516 - 03/24/17 08:11 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
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Loc: MI
I use 2X4 with a piece of 1" foam sandwiched between them, this give the cut out for the springs of the 330 also
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#5855628 - 03/24/17 10:17 AM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 1159
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Do you find a float works with various brands of body grips, or do you design it for 1 size/make/model?
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#5856306 - 03/24/17 09:41 PM Re: Nuisance Beaver [Re: AJE]
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Loc: MI
The ones I have I built to fit my duke 330s

Can't imagine that there would be enough difference in others. I just slide the springs in to the sides.
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