Re: Making Fish Oils
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I used small bluegill and perch whole. Packed into mason jars. Popped small holes into canning lid. Used a square of tshirt material over lid but under ring. Tied each jar to a different apple tree branch so sun would hit it. After 2 months, I strained them and let the different liquids separate. Was not much left for solids. The clear beautiful golden oil floats and can be decanted for use, the other liquid is really nasty water and can be used for trailing scent Coon trapping. Works great.
I heard it had to be stirred occasionally. That's why the jars were tied in trees. When the wind blew and it stirred them for me.
Make sure to use a tree far away from houses.......
Made a lot of oil. Had quite a few quarts of throwbacks.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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I do like bob jameson on a smaller scale. fill a couple five gallon buckets with fish that are froze. froze makes it easy to whack into chunks with an axe. bucket lids are vented with an aquarium stone. after a few months of hot summer I pour the contents through a window screen saving the liquid and discarding the solids. the liquid is allowed to separate in a container like the one above at least a week.
heres a tip. if your neighbor has a dog he wont keep home leave the solids where fido can find them. especially effective if fido is a indoor outdoor dog.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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02/28/17 11:47 PM
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my hats off to you guys i have tried numerous times to make sun rendered fish oil but all I get is fish juice! it has some oil to it because it wont freeze I use those 55 gallon plastic barrels with gaskets and draw bands for the lid no venting needed in three years ive added fish to that barrel every spring to this day I do not see a visible layer of oil and ive tried catfish spoon bill and gizzard shad. Don't think I can add any fish this year its over half full of liquid now.I believe adding more fish would cause it to hit critical mass. Oh well guess I can start another barrel. Makes for a good place to get rid of my catfish and spoonbill carcasses no guts just heads and skin and skeleton
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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03/01/17 02:54 AM
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so you use what we call the red meat on a spoonie the un edible part I use that and the head and skin a lot of times the red meat is attached to the skin like you said about a half inch to 3/4 " thick thicker by the tail. were do you get spoonbills from bob?Iwould save mine for you but a guy from WV has asked for them but in the future maybe how much would you like you could get barrels full at fish skinning stations at any of the snagging boat ramps, not uncommon to see a hundred or more heads and scraps in the water, only thing you wouldn't be able to obtain is the eggs
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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You're talking about rainbow/brook trout types, correct?
Down here, they'd be hard to come by. I'll probably give a few of the fish that seem to be oily a shot.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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my area catfish are easily obtained all breeds of catfish and bullheads are considered trash fish. Every time I do bullheads I get a thick black tar looking substance but boy oh boy is it strong! I don't believe the flys can even stand the smell
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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my area catfish are easily obtained all breeds of catfish and bullheads are considered trash fish. Every time I do bullheads I get a thick black tar looking substance but boy oh boy is it strong! I don't believe the flys can even stand the smell I get a chuckle out of hearing bullheads are "trash fish". I hear it often. Guys I work with said it last week.... I like calling them "buttercats". They're GREAT to eat, as long as they don't come from nasty water (just like other fish) lol
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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most of ours come from cattle ponds! only time they are fit to eat is the spring time after that their name comes into affect mudcats that has to be a southern thing, but I think the bullheads there are a lot bigger than ours here a 3 lber is big, and typically they are half pound, and have the sharpest fins of any fish hands down. They have more names than carter has pills
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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aix you can have my share of the yellow bellys I will stick with channel cats and flatheads and I hate blue cats greasy nasty fish those go in barrels too gut free big ones get released.Ihelped a friend skin and fillet a cooler full one day after running lines the oil slick those blues left on the water in the cooler turned my stomach. trash fish I my opinion. But a lot of guys like them so I wont waste them. We throw net shad by the barrels full in the spring. But I have only one recipe for shad and haven't put it to the test yet! cinnamon shad coon bait
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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Used to roast bullheads over fire and eat them. Poke a stick in mouth and roast till skins peel off and eat like corn on the Cob.
Probably make good oil.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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I bet if you smoked them shad then ground them it'd be a killer coon bait I bet your rite any smoked meat works on a coons appetite hotdogs are good on coons too stab a piece of hotdog on a dogproof trigger and watch out
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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limb or jug line those big blue cats. you know. the ones that are to big to make good table fare. the ones in fisherman magazine mounted the no science ban on commercial fishing for.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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all of the above and the occasional rod a reel one that's a lot of fun they are getting rather hefty in MO water not uncommon to hear of 60-90 pounders caught! Personally ive seen 60 pounders caught on rod and reel. They are like Asian carp worthless but a blast to catch and can really put your equipment to the test. Spring rod a reel fishing on a good river rise and a bloody chunk of shad guy never knows what's going to come knocking! The sound of bait clickers screaming in the wee hours of the am exciting!!!!!!!
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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most of ours come from cattle ponds! only time they are fit to eat is the spring time after that their name comes into affect mudcats that has to be a southern thing, but I think the bullheads there are a lot bigger than ours here a 3 lber is big, and typically they are half pound, and have the sharpest fins of any fish hands down. They have more names than carter has pills Down here, A legitimate 3 lb bullhead would be worthy of a framed picture on the wall imo I don't think any catfish out of a pond that dries up would be good to eat. Bullheads survive dry ponds due to estivation. Most other catfish survive dry ponds due to....well, actually they don't usually survive. Sharp spines, yes, but don't forget about their bite. They bite hard enough to make you remember the lesson of not doing it. Been there already... .
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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yes those little sobs bite like a Rottweiler cant believe you like to eat those fish I don't care for fish so if im eating it its going to be the best their is crappie or good catfish no carp or buffalo big gills are ok as long as you can fillet them and get a decent fillet my favorite is flathead belly meat.Spoonbill is good as long as its skinned properly all the red meat is cut off and discarded. But generally when im cooking spoonbill we fry a big mess of frog legs, good eats their.Sorry for leading your post astray
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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It's all good....it's not like it's a poppin' thread anyway. Very quiet over in the Lure Formulation forum......
I only want to eat good fish as well. Just to be clear, let me say it this way: When it comes to catfish, bullheads are at the top of my list IF, and ONLY IF they come from good water. I wouldn't eat crappie that came from stagnant water (right before they died due to bad water).
When they come from COOL, clean water, they're as good as it gets when it comes to catfish. The problem with them is they are able to survive conditions that other fish can not, due to estivation. They bury themselves in the mud and wait for rainfall to refill the pond. This means that they taste like chit, I mean mud.
Clean, cool water bullheads are great to eat.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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I conned a buddy into lipping a big bullhead like a bass, man that was funny! In about 2008, a knucklehead that I didn't care for then and don't care for now put an Obama sticker on my truck. Thought it was funny.,,,,the same day, we happened to be fishing together when I caught a sheepshead. I held its jaw down and showed him its teeth. I told him that he should touch the teeth to see how much they felt like human teeth. He said "but it's gonna bite me". I replied "I'm touching them now and it's not biting me..." He put his finger in the sheepshead's mouth, and I let go of the jaw. It latched on and bit the fire out of him. He got so mad and asked why I did that. I told him that I didn't appreciate him putting that clown's bumper sticker on my truck.
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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im not bob but pure fat will get you oil within the next day now I can render fish oil from straight fat and most times its so clear you think its water! Has more of a raw fish smell not the rotten smell from sunrendered using the whole fish minus the guts. Bill good luck on the spoonies our season opens on the 15'th
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I conned a buddy into lipping a big bullhead like a bass, man that was funny! It was probably like tryin to get a buggger off your finger wasn't it
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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same thing here no expansion but gasing yes if anything it starts shrinking within a week, I have tried numerous small batches in glass jars to monitor got a 1/4 cup once off of straight belly fat the only time I ever collected true bonafied sun rendered fish oil! bto is so much simpler. But I haven't gave up on the fishoil yet! Someday maybe I can get it down
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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off subject but after fleshing a otter the other day it reminded me of the smell of rendered oil from pure belly fat next year ima keeping all my otter fat to render. could be a waste of time but you never learn un less you try!
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Re: Making Fish Oils
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have you ever tried it lol I just remember certain smells and fish is one my brain will never forget. Kind of like the it tastes like chicken thing the standard to compare all things against.I have rendered skunk oil bto and chicken fat with success going to try otter and snapping turtles nextand I cant get the grasshopper bait out of my mind. I will perfect that one or die tring! I have it at mediocre now but that's not good enough
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