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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5807116
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Whoops and best is Livestock guardian dogs

Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5808342
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Rikki, all eagles are protected under the Eagle Act and trumps any state laws. All raptors including eagles are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. Also trumps all state laws. To legally take raptors it takes a state + federal depredation permit. Federal permits to take are not handed out very often and usually not at all to the general public. With eagles you have to have a federal permit just to harass them . By federal law you can not even honk the horn at one to make him fly without the permit.


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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809697
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Well I am a master falconer and you can certainly apply to take eagles under state and federal laws if you apply and the fed and state agree. Having eagle permits if you have gone through the training and apprenticing is long but I have had many friends that have flown and hunted eagles. I prefer accipiters.
I was not suggesting you do this without a permit.
If you are losing stock to eagles, and it is your living you should contact your local fish and game, they would contact a master falconer. If it is red tails, or something else non eagle you might want to check into a permitted falconer. The feds and state might say yes, might say no- does not hurt to ask. All my friends that have flown eagles got them through the aforementioned situation or rehab.

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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809713
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but by far the easiest which i mentioned before is Livestock Guardian dogs. We have a few of those, without which we could not ranch at all.

Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809861
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I have looked into falconry for control at our airport. I seen where master falconers can use eagles but not kill eagles. What kind of bird do you use to hunt eagle?


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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809888
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eagles
Rabbit
mostly

ground dwelling smaller mammals
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For bird abatement it is yet Another Permit

Most use falcons lure trained for that. tho you must use a bird bred in captivity

It is then necessary to have several to use, so one can rests

saker, barbary, peregrine, gyr

need to be at least a general permit holder for that but it may have changed.

Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809911
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I am not talking about using the Eagles to hunt, rather hunting eagles.


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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809934
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the methods used to live capture birds of prey for falconry vary.

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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: rikki] #5809949
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I know how to catch the birds to use for hunting. I am not talking about live capturing birds.
Originally Posted By: rikki
What kind of hawks?
Some raptors preying on anything farm related can be taken legally by a permitted falconer including G eagles. each state is a bit different.

This works for a while, glitter tape- alot of it

Radio playing loud awful stuff- not country western- the hawks like that.

And scarecrow.


"Taken" on a depredation permit means lethal means. That's what I was talking about. Totally different deal.


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Re: Hawks for you adc guys [Re: 2cylinder] #5809957
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Ok

'taken' in falconry is live capture.

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