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Need help (ground hog) #5533663
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Trying to catch a couple of ground hogs, in town at the local sheriff department. Using live traps only .

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5533714
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What do you need help with? Traps? Bait? Location? Steely determination?

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5533728
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What bait would be best or just try to funnel him in the trap?

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5533808
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If you can funnel it (lay out of earth, buildings, foliage) then By all means you should get it day 1 or 2

I caught 2 at the same time once this year in a single trap by funneling


If you have to bait. I've had a lot of luck using alfalfa rabbit food from pet store along with twizzlers strawberry licorice

Last edited by Michigan Trappin; 05/26/16 02:12 PM.

Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5533907
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Oink oink......

Sorry...couldnt help it...catchin pigs at the cop shop

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5533913
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Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5533963
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I like cantaloupe, but funneling works best when it can be done.

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5534047
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Originally Posted By: Michigan Trappin
If you can funnel it (lay out of earth, buildings, foliage) then By all means you should get it day 1 or 2

I caught 2 at the same time once this year in a single trap by funneling


If you have to bait. I've had a lot of luck using alfalfa rabbit food from pet store along with twizzlers strawberry licorice


How do you present the bait?

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5534062
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I buy the alfalfa that looks like it's from a bail of hay (not pellets)

Put two pieces of twizzlers in broke into thirds or so. I put them In first and put the alfalfa on top. All in the back of cage

Red delicious apple slices never hurt either with one ground all over the top of cage to spread the smell

Both ways have worked

But by far if you can fence/ tunnel them to trap it is the best way caught them in just hours doing it. The time I got the two together I had caught one in there in the morning and picked it up around noon, set another trap and had the two In It together that evening

Also use a clean trap, very clean of all animal smells, unless it is ground hog odor. Makes it better


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5534134
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I used to keep my traps strapped to the top of my cap. The sun and wind cleaned them. Trapping has just started to really boom so I haven't been carrying so many traps at 1 time this year... Yet

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5535816
05/28/16 06:48 PM
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The best bait is none at all, because it is not necessary 98% of the time. I don't even have any. You will save money, save time setting, no rebating and catch just about no non targets while the jobs will sometimes be completed in hours or even minutes. Have caught hundreds of chucks over the past 12 years without bait of any kind, using double door cages with nose cones. It's like using conibears without the worry. I made the switch from bait and single door cages and never looked back.

Frequently clients have tried with bait and failed before we get there. This week a lady tried for a week with single door and bait to catch a chuck. She got 2 squirrels and a possum, no chuck. I set the den in the evening, double door with nose cone. She called at 8 a.m. very pleased that the job was over. I never promise it will go this quickly but just tell them it very often does. Skunks, coon, squirrels, its all the same, just different traps. Traps as short as 18 inches long will do it, which is great because space is sometimes in short supply. In this case the set trap just fit between two fences.

In the past 6 years of sharing what we do, for those who have tried it, none have returned to what they had been doing with bait. One remarked last week, "I didn't have much luck with chucks before, but now they call me the chuck king."

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5535908
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I would have to say those that haven't had success with baits or lures haven't used good products. Consumers usually have been throwing in what is handy or what they think is adequate at the time. Allowing some success some of the time with household items. Big difference in results compared to good lures and baits. Not factoring the trap may have been last used to catch a cat, or raccoon. Some chucks are reluctant to enter some traps due to odor refusals or crowding a den.

I have caught thousands of groundhogs over the years with bait and lure presentations with success coming in mins. or a few hours according to customers paying attention and calling at times before our techs get back to the home base. We can catch chucks with single door cages on demand with lure, bait and a touch of chuck gland in a day if they are living or visiting that den site daily.

If they are nomadic, as they can be at certain times of the year or those using several different dens in an area it may take a few days to a couple of weeks to catch that animal. One just must understand what an animals behavior is in some cases.

I use both methods, positive and baited setups. When gang setting for a family unit I always used baited set ups. For single animals during those times of the year nose cone positive sets are effective as well.



Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5543014
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What if you can't find holes? But they swear they are seeing them on the property? I'm dealing with that right now lol


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Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5543074
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Any decks or sheds? Neighbors property?


And they climb trees!

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5543936
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There is decks, buildings and lots of brushy woody area. I walked around and found no holes. I felt they were just nomad chucks but I certainly can be wrong though


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Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5547243
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Sometimes they will follow a wall or fence line without going under. Perhaps there are some subtile trails to set. Imagine you could drift fence them too if there were some more open areas.

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5548581
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Still no signs of them. As I suspected, they aren't there and there have been no sightings since I set. That is good news too them so it worked out I guess lol


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Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5549190
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They might be back at some point as they can sometimes go a few weeks before returning. Had one the other day that looked like chuck, but I got a skunk under the house and another under the fence. Told them to watch for chuck activity. First sign, I will return quickly and reset.

Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Tommie] #5549272
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I guess I don't see the problem if a rockchuck comes around every few weeks. If they make residence the I can see trying to do something. But I do what the customer wants


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Re: Need help (ground hog) [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5561337
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Originally Posted By: Michigan Trappin
I buy the alfalfa that looks like it's from a bail of hay (not pellets)

Put two pieces of twizzlers in broke into thirds or so. I put them In first and put the alfalfa on top. All in the back of cage

Red delicious apple slices never hurt either with one ground all over the top of cage to spread the smell

Both ways have worked

But by far if you can fence/ tunnel them to trap it is the best way caught them in just hours doing it. The time I got the two together I had caught one in there in the morning and picked it up around noon, set another trap and had the two In It together that evening

Also use a clean trap, very clean of all animal smells, unless it is ground hog odor. Makes it better



I ran out of double door traps and had to use a single door. I was also short of anything traditional for bait, but I remembered this thread and zip tied some red Swedish fish to the top, back of the cage. An adult chuck was in the trap fairly quickly! Thanks for the tip!

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