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Antique trap price and reference guide #5475761
03/27/16 06:25 PM
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What is the best all around book for reference and value of vintage and antique traps?


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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5475793
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This should be interesting crazy

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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5475810
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There are 2 schools of thought on this subject. Both revolving around one individual. I will let some one else take this discussion to the next level.

I have my personal preference but then I haven't been in the trap collecting business nearly as long as some others on this site.


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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5476230
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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5476376
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If you look back to a thread started on 03/05/16 there is a discussion on Trap collectors guide. There are some divided opinions, might be a good idea to purchase both and make your own conclusion....

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5476899
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I'm not afraid to say it. I never have cared for the Vance books.


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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5477091
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I'm not afraid to say that I think it's pretty low for someone to get on a forum to pick on a guy that's almost at the end of his days, nearly chair/bed ridden, on oxygen, unable to defend himself and just trying to make a few bucks by selling some books. For years and years, Vance's books were the go-to books for anyone wanting to know information about collecting traps. I guess that now that everyone has bought the books, used them, and in some instances, even copied them that they're just no good anymore? What the heck is wrong with you people? You collectors should be honoring Robert Vance, not trashing him.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5477135
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My problem with Vance is that he has things in his books that are blatantly not right, in fact I would call them dishonest. Also, I have a good friend that trusted Vance when he bought supposedly rare traps from him for thousands of dollars and they are fake. If Vance's books were so good people would not be talking them down. New collectors are buying misinformation. That is dishonest and I do not stand for people that take advantage of others.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: snakecollector] #5477194
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Originally Posted By: snakecollector
My problem with Vance is that he has things in his books that are blatantly not right, in fact I would call them dishonest. Also, I have a good friend that trusted Vance when he bought supposedly rare traps from him for thousands of dollars and they are fake. If Vance's books were so good people would not be talking them down. New collectors are buying misinformation. That is dishonest and I do not stand for people that take advantage of others.


That's nice. That's real nice. That's two of you, now. Where's the other four? I'm waiting for them to chime in.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: No.4] #5477212
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Back in the 1970's we had Ron Frodeluis and Burts guides.Then Bob Vance had many different books.Now Tom Parr has a guide.I remember selling a trap a Show, a guy said how come you are asking $85.00 for it Vance's book has it at $75.00 I said who is selling the trap Bob or me.Then I said I paid $ 85.00 that's what I want.It sold.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: No.4] #5477238
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I'm new to collectable traps and I can say to people on here have been very helpful and I don't feel like any of them will try to stear anyone in the wrong direction or take advantage of us. The most respected people on here recommended andreski and parr's book and I bought one, along with several traps,from a gentleman on here. I'm not disappointed and i appreciate all the help and advice from all of them. This site is great and the people on here make it that way. We are all entitled to our opinion and differences. That's what makes America so great. I chose to go with the advice given to me and don't regret it. When wissmiss, cohunt, and snakecollector, and others give advice, I wouldn't dismiss it.


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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: Bruce1] #5477265
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Originally Posted By: Bruce1
Back in the 1970's we had Ron Frodeluis and Burts guides.Then Bob Vance had many different books.Now Tom Parr has a guide.I remember selling a trap a Show, a guy said how come you are asking $85.00 for it Vance's book has it at $75.00 I said who is selling the trap Bob or me.Then I said I paid $ 85.00 that's what I want.It sold.


At least the guide was close. Anyways, that's all the books are, they're guides. When it comes down to it, the traps are only worth what the buyers are willing to pay for them.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: No.4] #5477268
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I'll second that! When I look at my guide and watch eBay, wow! Some people are just nuts....


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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5477516
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I have Frodeluis and Burt, Vance, Parr and Gerstell books. They all provide information that is useful for me. I use Parr the most but I'm not giving up any of my Vance books either. A used Frodeluis and Burt is probably your best dollar value book but they have been out of print for quite a while now. Ebay may seem crazy at times, but cannot be ignored. I buy and sell almost all my traps on Ebay so history of Ebay sales prices are the real market price for me. The price guide books do not align with well with Ebay on many traps.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: Pat_tc] #5478323
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There are alot of traps that are not in any books,proto types,one of a kind traps.Just because it's not in a book don't mean that a traps not legit.How do you value a one of a kind.Having some guide books are a must.I have to get some new ones my old Vance book is from 1999.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: Bruce1] #5478512
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Originally Posted By: Bruce1
There are alot of traps that are not in any books,proto types,one of a kind traps.Just because it's not in a book don't mean that a traps not legit.How do you value a one of a kind.Having some guide books are a must.I have to get some new ones my old Vance book is from 1999.

You need to get ahold of Ed, Bruce. I'm sure that if you were to send him an sas envelope, he'd just give you one of his pocket-sized Blue Books. I really like mine.

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5478912
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Bruce, your book is on the way! Hopefully, your address is still
the same?

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: No.4] #5479554
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wish i had a new vances book

Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: tempdog] #5479578
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Does that offer apply to any one that sends Ed a SAS envelope? I would love to have one of those Blue Book pocket guides.


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Re: Antique trap price and reference guide [Re: wissmiss] #5479590
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Originally Posted By: wissmiss
Does that offer apply to any one that sends Ed a SAS envelope? I would love to have one of those Blue Book pocket guides.


After taking into account the fact that you've already bought some books from Ed, he might just give you one! You'd have to give him a call, and ask him, though.

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