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still havin fun killin $2 bills #5272872
11/17/15 12:04 AM
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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5272924
11/17/15 12:47 AM
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Good for you Joshua! I'm sure your trapping partner has a lot to do with your enthusiasm. Maybe it's just a coincidence but I had a

muskrat job myself today. The memories of trapping with a brother, grandpa, and especially dad, live forever.

P.S. Did you really catch that mink on Welch's PB&J?

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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5275120
11/18/15 02:28 PM
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Great Josh, those are memories.... Did you send those pics to Gma ?


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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5275406
11/18/15 06:40 PM
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This is $85 beaver....cant sell on fur market

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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5276098
11/19/15 01:03 AM
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I have never sold a fur since I went into this business full time. But if I had, how would anyone know the difference? Is there

something that tells you that the hide came from an ADC pest? By the way, it is legal to do so here. Josh, I did catch two muskrats

on the job I was on. That's worth about 13 days of fur trapping I'd guess.

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5276235
11/19/15 08:24 AM
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It is the principal and what i believe....i have not been dishonest in business and i dont intend to start now....a few years ago my dnr agent told me that when caught during fur season that it was ok to keep the fur....he retired out of field work and while he is head of wcos now in iowa...his guys under him now say i cant.....since they write the tickets...i wont

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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5276253
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Talk about wanton waste of a resource. I think all wildlife that can be utilized under a seasonal circumstance should be handled in such a manner. Particularly in that instance.

That is where there are problems in some DNR licensing and regulatory laws. I find that there are some common sense issues that get skewed as you climb the ladder of advancement in many such areas. Our state for the most part has reasonable laws and guidelines but there still remains some gray areas that need to be addressed to make things more clear with regards to interpretation of the law.

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5276526
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When you actually think about it, this has to be one of the dumbest laws ever passed. The animal is already dead and in your

possession. Do they think that if you're already getting fifty bucks for catching that muskrat, that selling the fur for two dollars

more is somehow going to turn you into a wildlife violator? I can't grasp the thinking on this law. The reason that I don't sell the

fur is because my time is more valuable than skinning, fleshing, stretching, drying, and selling a hide for two bucks. When the

market is as bad as it is now, I also think that no one, with the exception of kids, should sell fur. Just my opinion.


P.S. Bob, I don't want you to think that I am wasting a resource. Most of our furbearers are caught live and relocated, including a

bunch of muskrats that I live trapped this past summer.

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5276805
11/19/15 04:21 PM
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I agree with the dumb part...would rather use the fur....i end up using the carcass as a draw for coyotes to an area

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5280292
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[i]I also think that no one, with the exception of kids, should sell fur. Just my opinion.[/i]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^. As long as the market treats fur sellers like bastid stepchildren, don't give them the satisfaction of providing a product the garment producers use to make money.

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5291703
11/30/15 12:03 AM
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yesterdays catch...day before was same except minus one mink

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5291740
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Looks like fun Josh. Our fur trapping season has been open 3 weeks and I still haven't been out. But will go take care of my farmers and landowners where I've been trapping since grade school. Started when I was 10, now 57. Never missed a year! Seems as though some folks think that when rat prices are low they must quit digging into shorelines and dams? Should I tell the farmers the excavating/bulldozing costs for repairing their dams will be 80% less since the furs are not worth much? After doing commercial wildlife work 6 and 7 days a week from March through October, I look forward to getting out for some recreational trapping. At the same time maintaining my annual trapping locations with about 30 landowners. Trapped rats for 75 cents, and for 12 bucks. Can't stockpile animals, and it makes zero difference in populations whether they are trapped heavily or not at all. And as both a fur trapper and wildlife control operator, I actually DO understand the huge difference between the two. There's not a single landowner on my fur trapping list that would EVER pay for wildlife control, and it doesn't bother me a bit.


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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5291758
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I started fur trapping in 1955. A large, prime mink brought $35 back then. The average wage back then was $85 a week. I agree with Ron

about my farmer friends not ever paying a nickel for ADC work. Oh yeah, and they've all sold enough land to be worth 3 or 4 times what I am.

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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5291768
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Yep.... my grandpa was one of the best mink trappers around earlier than that. His nickname was "mink". He worked for the state, and would make far more money catching mink in the winter than driving the state snow plow!


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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5291777
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I actually have ONE farmer who will NOT allow fur trapping, but when he has beaver problems he HIRES me to trap them under my commercial permit. Says he owns too much ground and is worth too much money to take a chance on fur trapping "protections" offered through state game laws. He wants me doing it commercially as he knows I'm insured, and doesn't care what it costs. Funny how people can all be so different.


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Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5291817
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People are funny that way...one farmer is beggin me to trap beaver but wont let me drive in his property...i told him as soon as he is willing to let me drive in on my atv i will kill the beaver but until then he can keep em...also told him i will also require ability to trap coyotes and other fur while in there or beaver wont be enough

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5292224
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You guys are right. Nearly every kid I grew up with was a farm kid and all of them could chase their farming ancestry back to the

Garden of Eden. Lots of fun watching the kids that barely graduated from high school growing up to become millionaires. But they

still try to convince you that they are practically penniless.

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5294860
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Up to 16 mink and 97 muskrats

Re: still havin fun killin $2 bills [Re: TRapper] #5294997
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I have noticed a lot of mink killed on the roads this year. The terrible fur prices have a lot to do with that, I'm sure. When we had

the snowfall last week I was amazed at the number of rat houses on all the marshes that I would not have seen without the snow cover.

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