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wire screen trap covers #5227994
10/12/15 03:35 PM
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Just bought some coated black wire screen trap pan covers that are good as I seen anywhere
For 25 $ for 70 trap pieces for 3s and 4s
from keg creek or braveheart on here makes some awesome bait and lure I might add.
screen is good stuff


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5229330
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marty is a great guy

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: mjh] #5232665
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Had pile of call on the screen.I am sold out till next week at this time.The 200 ft. did not last very long!!

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5232696
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Landscape cloth.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: strike2x] #5232847
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Happy birthday Marty

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: braveheart] #5232946
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Dang just saw this post. Put me down for a roll once you re-stock!

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: Smtn10pt] #5233299
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Hey strike how does the fabric increase your pan area?The stuff I have seen is limp like a noodle.

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5233823
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Black screen, at least what I've used, tends to slightly rust in damper soil and/or if left in the ground for a long period of time.
It is the stiffest I've used (vs aluminum) however and perform quite well.
If you trap in drier conditions or the trap doesn't set for a month at a time,(as in some control work) it will work well for you.
Wire screen works best on #3 traps or larger,IMO.
Aluminum and galvanized tend to not rust, at least I haven't noticed it on my line.

Most trappers that I've seen use it, do not use it properly to get the bigger kill area effect.

To do so, one must tuck it to fit beneath the jaws and slightly form it around the pan NOT cut it to fit inside the jaws.


Fiberglass screen I got away from due to rodents digging it up,as it has a slight plastic smell that rodents are attracted to.
LT

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5233848
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It doesn't increase pan area. I want my trap to fire when the foot is dead center no over jaw possibly. I use smaller traps then some so placement is key and I have even put smaller pans on some. I didn't know you were trying to increase pan area. Why not just change out pan or tack an extension on. I like landscape cloth cuz it lets water through, lays flat and doesn't slide under foot. JMO.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: strike2x] #5233931
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This will allow all water to run through and it won't bunch like other screen.I have not tried it on smaller traps.I run all 3-4 dogless Vic. Montgomery.The welding of extra size pan is not for me I use the screen for larger kill area.I have not had this screen in the ground for long periods like a month or more.My traps have the same coating and I see no rust on the for the last 8-10 years.I say use what ever you are comfortable with and have a great trapping Season.

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5233957
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LT., can you elaborate on how you form the screen to your pans? Got a roll of aluminum screening and will be cutting some out this weekend. I'm using #2 bridgers and #3 victor dls. Care to give the dimensions you use?


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5234457
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If you put good screen to a smaller trap and lay it under the jaws and form a little bit to the pan to take the bubble out, keeping your thumb under the pan so it can't fire while forming and it will also increase the kill area or at least I believe it does. Red,I picked up a pint of the showtime bait to try, it's loud, like a bait should be.I need to listen to what you say more often.

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5234503
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I wanted to try some screen this year.Thats an awesome price on it

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: mixed bag] #5234599
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ive gone back and forth with the screen, on dogless# 3 montys,and montanas. always fought the trap firing and kicking dirt in my face. right,wrong or other wise i made wider notches in my covers last year and made a world of difference. saw a demo at the nta western this spring dont remeber who it was but they were forming the cover around the pan like others here are talking about.

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5234737
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It might help some also if on the corners on the lose jaw side to turn down corners it will help when bedding the trap a lot of times that is why I got to eat some dirt.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5235916
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Red mt sorry to get off track but are you the guy that somebody in fur fish game wrote an article about. It was about the sheeps wool on the side of a tree run set for cats. That was a good read and works good in the creek bottoms round here and up in the mountains too.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5236035
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I've used screen for 33 years now. I've used the limp stuff, the super stiff Black stuff, and probably 10 types in between. I've settled on a grade of STEEL screen that I would probably describe as an '8' on a scale of 1 to 10 as to it's 'stiffness'. On a PROPERLY adjusted trap, a screen can be a huge asset. On the other hand, and I've experienced this first hand 1000's of times myself, screens can be a detriment. The key is having your trap pan level adjusted correctly. It seems to be an issue with people, and I deal with it all the time. (helping people adjust their traps). It pains me to see and hear that people try to use screens with the pans of any trap adjusted so the pans are ABOVE jaw level. With the super stiff screens that I see people trying to use, no wonder they have so many pre-maturely snapped traps! If the screen can't sit flat on the pan, there is no way to keep a 'hump' from forming over the pan, that is just simple logic. AS for 'forming' the screen over the pan, I put that in the same category as 'loading' your snares. Are you kidding me? You should be able to set the trap, raise the 'free' jaw, and slide the screen under the jaws. If you learn to 'cup' the screen a little,(in your hand) it will slide under the jaw corners easily. The screen will simply re-gain it's original shape. If the trap is adjusted properly, the screen will be flat.This whole process should take 5 seconds. If there is a hump, especially when using the super stiff stuff in vogue right now, you very well might have problems. You are asking a lot of a super stiff screen when you want it to increase 'kill area', and THEN to let the screen flex enough to take up any and all slack that you have created by not cutting it to the right size, or leaving/allowing a hump to form. I use and sell pre-cut screens for the #3 Montana's. They are 5 1/4" W X 6 1/2" L. They are made of the material that I have settled on after using them for years. I'm using these every single day, and I know what works for ME. And, I also talk to and help 100's of people through PM's and e-mails, and phone calls. You don't have to make things like this harder than they need to be!

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5236197
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is there anyone here that sells precut wire screen covers for mb 450.550, and 650's?

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5236288
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Good post Mr. Graham.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5236464
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John my name is Trey Ferguson. I'm wondering if the covers in your catalog will work on my bridger number 3s. I was on the phone with your wife about a month ago and she was as nice as anybody could be she patiently answered all my questions as best she could and was super nice. I ordered your latest DVD and its solid coyote killing information from start to finish. I have all your DVDs as well as a lot of others and your way of teaching and explaining things are very simple to understand and your methods work for me here in Virginia. You have greatly influenced my style of trapping and made me a better trapper. Im sorry for getting off topic there just wanted to thank you for teaching trappers all across this country to better there game at a very cheap price on your DVDs. I would pay a lot of money to ride on your line for a day.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5236989
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Nicely done John G
Steel screen works best for me when trap pan looks like this for pan height.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5237393
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Just like Red has shown the trap has to have pan slightly below the jaw to work.And run a good 4 pounds of pan tension.I have tried screen in some traps that a cup jawed when set the loose side will not lay down I have since sold those traps you just get to many fingers.I use the Vic. Montgomery 3-4 lay super flat just cut notch all the way set trap wire will get pinched on dog side pull across turn corner up on loose end the whole inside of jaw will be kill area.I have yet so see a bubble with this stiff screen.I have found the thin screen like window is really no better than wax paper except it lets water go through or lets moisture escape.With a 1/2 in of dirt of a dirt on trap to blend properly it makes life simple just shove the trap in trap bed cover and be gone.I have never formed around pan you should never need to turn corners up at edges YES.Like I tell everyone everyone has there certain ways to trap.I think this screen could be coated and grass added for a exposed cat set and be a super deal.

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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #5238525
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is sceen the same size for 3 monty as the 3 montana? can anyone post a pic of a sceened monty3? gettin ready to cut some screen.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: possumpacker] #5241055
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Picking up the screen today will be available Oct.24 for sale.

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Originally Posted By: possumpacker
is sceen the same size for 3 monty as the 3 montana? can anyone post a pic of a sceened monty3? gettin ready to cut some screen.


If someone can tell me how to post a pic on here, I can do it. It's been awhile since I've been on and it appears the format has changed.

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Put them on your computer and select from your gallery if you are having trouble posting from your phone .


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #7170941
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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #7171082
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Imo this is a good thread and an excellent example of different strokes for different folks. It may not work or may not work to the users liking so they find something that works best for them. The great part is that trappers have several different options to try until they find a way that works for them.


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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #7171229
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Marty didn’t have any last year. Think I found some at NO BS though that were somewhat thinner and work exceptionally well for the PDS. And that’s about the only set working for me this year. Very few catches in dirt hole sets.

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #7172440
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John,
I've been using your screen for the last 2 years and it works pretty well. Mostly #3 round jaw Vic's, but I have also used it with MB550's. Sometimes I can even re-use the same piece if it hasn't been torn up too bad.
Thanks.

Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #7173572
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Hardware mesh just like you use on a dirt sifter works also harder to pre cut but work great.

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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: LT GREY] #7401700
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Originally Posted by LT GREY
Black screen, at least what I've used, tends to slightly rust in damper soil and/or if left in the ground for a long period of time.
It is the stiffest I've used (vs aluminum) however and perform quite well.
If you trap in drier conditions or the trap doesn't set for a month at a time,(as in some control work) it will work well for you.
Wire screen works best on #3 traps or larger,IMO.
Aluminum and galvanized tend to not rust, at least I haven't noticed it on my line.

Most trappers that I've seen use it, do not use it properly to get the bigger kill area effect.

To do so, one must tuck it to fit beneath the jaws and slightly form it around the pan NOT cut it to fit inside the jaws.


Fiberglass screen I got away from due to rodents digging it up,as it has a slight plastic smell that rodents are attracted to.
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Re: wire screen trap covers [Re: red mt] #7412738
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Still surprises me how many trappers either don't use it or use it improperly

So, I see why a lot of trappers miss animals that visit sets

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