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Is This Important? #5181708 09/02/15 02:33 PM 09/02/15 02:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,361 mequon, wisconsin P Paul Winkelmann OP trapper
Paul Winkelmann OP trapper P Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,361 mequon, wisconsin	I recently received an E-mail that has me thinking about the firearms business lately. Supposedly a conglomerate headed by none other than George Soros ( The man that many say got Obama elected ) bought and then closed Marlin firearms. This story alone would not mean that much but the same outfit owns Bushmaster, Defense Procurement Manufacturing Services, Dakota Arms, Harrington & Richardson, and Remington. When people are paying between $300 and $1000 for guns that should cost half that much and you can hardly find a box of .22 shells nowadays, maybe this message is important. I will be interested in all comments!

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5181869 09/02/15 05:26 PM 09/02/15 05:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,049 St. Louis Co, Mo B BigBob trapper
BigBob trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,049 St. Louis Co, Mo	Per Snopes: FALSE Per NRA: FALSE Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon. Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor. Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5181910 09/02/15 06:03 PM 09/02/15 06:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 757 Schenectady, NY E EatenByLimestone trapper
EatenByLimestone trapper E Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 757 Schenectady, NY	I was surprised that nobody has started chambering lever actions in New cartridges since the lever evolution stuff came out with a pointy tip. It seems like the other.308 rounds would be easy to adapt to and give a bit more range. www.upstatepestandwildlife.com

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5181931 09/02/15 06:16 PM 09/02/15 06:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,049 St. Louis Co, Mo B BigBob trapper
BigBob trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,049 St. Louis Co, Mo	I wouldn't trust any pointy round in a lever action. Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon. Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor. Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5181998 09/02/15 07:08 PM 09/02/15 07:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 757 Schenectady, NY E EatenByLimestone trapper
EatenByLimestone trapper E Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 757 Schenectady, NY	http://www.hornady.com/store/30-30-Win-160-gr-FTX-LEVERevolution/ www.upstatepestandwildlife.com

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5182178 09/02/15 09:24 PM 09/02/15 09:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 7,240 West Michigan G Getting There trapper
Getting There trapper G Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 7,240 West Michigan	Paul, People need to Google George Soros and Freedom Group. They go hand and hand IMO. Who would be buying up gun Co. when there is so much government regulation being put on gun. Not the best investments. What happened to all the Co. that was making lead, there gone. Just something to think about To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5182179 09/02/15 09:24 PM 09/02/15 09:24 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,361 mequon, wisconsin P Paul Winkelmann OP trapper
Paul Winkelmann OP trapper P Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,361 mequon, wisconsin	I'm wrong as usual. Compared to almost everything else ( except wages ) guns and ammo are still a bargain. 1960........................... Today New house $20,000.......... $361,600 New car $2,275............ $31,252 Gasoline 25 cents........ $2.45 Income $5,400............ $26,695 Box .22s 50 cents........ $4.50 Shotgun $150................ $1200 Last edited by Paul Winkelmann; 09/02/15 09:31 PM.

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5182187 09/02/15 09:29 PM 09/02/15 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 25 Michigan DaveK trapper
DaveK trapper Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 25 Michigan	So everything is up by a factor of ~10....except income which is up by a factor of ~5. https://propestmen.com/ohio https://www.crittercatchersinc.com https://www.wildlifecontrolhelpline.com

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5182194 09/02/15 09:37 PM 09/02/15 09:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,361 mequon, wisconsin P Paul Winkelmann OP trapper
Paul Winkelmann OP trapper P Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,361 mequon, wisconsin	And I'm not sure about the income comparison Dave. The 1960 was average income, but the 2015 median household income is $50,050, so I'm not sure I have a fair comparison.

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #5182199 09/02/15 09:40 PM 09/02/15 09:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 25 Michigan DaveK trapper
DaveK trapper Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 25 Michigan	Ahhhh.....two income households. https://propestmen.com/ohio https://www.crittercatchersinc.com https://www.wildlifecontrolhelpline.com

Re: Is This Important? [Re: Getting There] #5183117 09/03/15 04:33 PM 09/03/15 04:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,049 St. Louis Co, Mo B BigBob trapper
BigBob trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,049 St. Louis Co, Mo	Originally Posted By: Getting There Paul, People need to Google George Soros and Freedom Group. I did. Snopes-False NRA-False Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon. Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor. Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!

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