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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157088
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Well no beaver and no repair to dam. Water down about 4" so a really put a hole in the dam this time almost another 16"'down. Don't know if it was just the one three year old or if there are more Don't see how if there is another that it won't try to fix dam now.

In regards to the conis being on top, the spots belo are mostly blocked. But that is why I set the two also at the log.


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If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157656
08/12/15 10:10 PM
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Ok went back tonight and the water is a foot lower. Had to remove the H-stands and put the conis on the bottom


A question for you guys who have been doing this for years, is it possible for there to of only been one beaver at site, or could a mate have left with any kits?


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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157681
08/12/15 10:26 PM
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All that page wire fencing that showed up overnight likely has the larger beaver spooked.It will take a while for them to come back.
I would get rid of all that page wire,back off for a few days and see if the beaver come back later(likely after the next rain),then make some sets that look more natural.Set the deepest part of the creek or channel,and use several dive poles a few feet apart to get them to swim on bottom,and into the trap.You don't need any fencing if you set deep in the channel,the beaver will swim in the deepest part when forced down.You can set two or three traps side by side if the channel is wide,or one in front of the other a couple feet apart if the channel is narrow.

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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157715
08/12/15 10:46 PM
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Spooky beaver are best left alone till they chill out. You can set conibears on frames side by side but the only worry is a frame getting pulled up and springing the rest of the traps. Also, when one beaver gets caught and moves the trap there is a "hole" for the next one to pass through without hitting a trap, a vacancy as it were. With cages the entire area is covered. When one catch is made the other traps are never disturbed in any situation, just remain in place ready for the next beaver. After a catch is made in one trap that hole is now blocked with a closed door, leaving openings with the other traps ready to catch. On the bottom set deep is the way to go.

Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157771
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Traps set side by side close,only work for multiple catches when block stakes are used.If you don't utilise the block stakes one beaver can spring more than one trap,defeating the purpose.The block stakes are an integral part of setting close.
Also when setting deep water that makes the wire trapstands impractical you need to learn to construct the "tee pee" set,which is good for any depth of water.

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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157948
08/13/15 08:14 AM
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There are still beaver. Over night the repaired the original dam I started at and built a new dam 15 yards in front of my sets ( pictured below)

So I guess I should have just trapped it the way I fur trap, using castor mounds and blind sets


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: TRapper] #5157974
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Originally Posted By: TRapper
Set up a small stream today in a golf course...they were fine with beaver til they started cuttin down trees laying on golf course lol


The owners of the course may of not been happy but I bet the golfers were! We always rejoice at the demise of a tree at our course.

Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5157994
08/13/15 09:03 AM
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I'll bite, what's a block stake? Staking solid in clay for instance where traps won't move is o.k. but some soil is loose meaning the trap may move and allow the beaver to spring others, not what you want.

Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5158122
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A block stake is a strategically placed stake between two traps set close side by side to prevent an animal from firing the trap next to it.Near 100% effective when positioned properly.Traps also have to be supported well.In some cases the tee pee stand is a lot more solid than a superstand.

Block stakes illustrated for beaver.
Tee pee stand illustrated.This set up is good for setting culverts that are several feet off bottom,as the trap can be positioned at any depth. Good for soft bottoms for same reason.
I cut stakes for tee pees and drowners on site so you don't have to haul around a bunch of junk.They can be left on site for use at later dates.


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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5158354
08/13/15 04:12 PM
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Took a minute but figured it out, to block the beaver from hitting a second trap so the body won't spin. I used the Lefler frames for a number of years when they first came out when I used 330's and loved them. Always said I would rather have 2 traps and 2 frames rather than 4 traps without frames. I too have set multiples side by side and did pretty well when in solid. Looks like the "block stakes" would be very good in that situation. When you freeze the tops of the frames in the ice it would be like iron, so at least the frame won't move.

Top pictures look chilly, from Northern Ontario this morning? Like they say in B.C., 9 months of winter and 3 months of rough sledding!

Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5158590
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Wont be long,Jim,lol.Yes most times when a beaver gets in a second trap it is from twisting his body and his tail or one back foot is in the other trap.The block sticks prevent this,leaving the other traps working for more fur.


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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5159182
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I always love learning something new. What some have done for years is brand new for others. Important to catch stuff while keeping the other sets working. Remember setting 3 conibears once and ended up with a beaver neck caught, foot caught and tail caught in magnums. Took the better part of 45 minutes to get the mess back in order. Learned what not to do. I am truly amazed at the ingenuity of so many who have come up with practical solutions to all kinds problems and always happy when they are willing to share them.

Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5159320
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Setting multiple traps at one location has a lot of advantages.The main one being on an extended check of 3 or 4 days,or even longer on winter lines a good location will keep producing fur,the whole time.


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Re: Beavers .... Finally [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5163716
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Originally Posted By: Michigan Trappin
There are still beaver. Over night the repaired the original dam I started at and built a new dam 15 yards in front of my sets ( pictured below)

So I guess I should have just trapped it the way I fur trap, using castor mounds and blind sets


If the beaver is repairing the dam every night , you should be able to shoot him about dark thirty .
I recommend 12 ga. # 4 buckshot ( also double tap just to be sure )

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