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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5058316
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Every winter I set a few traps (#4 victor square jawed coilsprings) bagged in a baggie,under a track in the snow,but with 7' of chain and a drag.Thats a good sized trap to go under a track when an animal follows its trail ,track for track,putting its foot dead center.You can use a 1 3/4 for that little trick,if you dont get too much snow.5" isnt too much,they know to follow the trail.I think that trap has 6 1/2" spread.


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5058317
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i am even moving to big traps when rat and mink traping!


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: trapper les] #5058318
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Originally Posted By: trapper les
Every winter I set a few traps (#4 victor square jawed coilsprings) bagged in a baggie,under a track in the snow,but with 7' of chain and a drag.Thats a good sized trap to go under a track when an animal follows its trail ,track for track,putting its foot dead center.You can use a 1 3/4 for that little trick,if you dont get too much snow.5" isnt too much,they know to follow the trail.I think that trap has 6 1/2" spread.
did you have a pic of this a year or so ago?


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5058544
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No,but I've mentioned it before...I showed a catch of a coyote trailing in to a bait,no tracks though.Blind set in snow,is all.Oldest set around,maybe.


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5058559
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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5058562
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Quote:
i am even moving to big traps when rat and mink trapping!


I believe here in Michigan your limited to a #2coil, maximum when trapping on rats and mink.

Which I think the old Victor square jaw #2 is great for a rat or mink. Body gripping.


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5058570
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I use #2s all the time in mink/rat trapping.


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Just remember with a big trap it is a bit harder to remove a non-target. Other than that use as big as the regs allow and what you feel comfortable with.

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I have spent a lot of years using smaller (1.5-1.75) traps for canines including coyotes, with success. When I started chasing bobcats using #3 Bridgers, I was amassed at how easy they were to stabilize. I believe a wobbly trap is the #1 cause of misses/pull outs.

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Originally Posted By: sparkyd
Just remember with a big trap it is a bit harder to remove a non-target. Other than that use as big as the regs allow and what you feel comfortable with.
why is it hard to remove a non target catch? i have had no problems.


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Originally Posted By: stan meyers
I have spent a lot of years using smaller (1.5-1.75) traps for canines including coyotes, with success. When I started chasing bobcats using #3 Bridgers, I was amassed at how easy they were to stabilize. I believe a wobbly trap is the #1 cause of misses/pull outs.
this is a good point!


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I am not convinced that the expanded pans are a plus when cat trapping. We are limited to a six inch trap here, on land, and I get enough toe caught cats already. Perhaps they are an advantage on larger traps, but not on my legal traps here.


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Originally Posted By: Old Relic
I am not convinced that the expanded pans are a plus when cat trapping. We are limited to a six inch trap here, on land, and I get enough toe caught cats already. Perhaps they are an advantage on larger traps, but not on my legal traps here.
so you are saying you have not tryed one?


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5059302
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He didnt say it was hard to remove a non target catch...he said "it is a bit harder".This stands to reason because a big trap is generally harder to set than a smaller trap.
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Just remember with a big trap it is a bit harder to remove a non-target. Other than that use as big as the regs allow and what you feel comfortable with.
why is it hard to remove a non target catch? i have had no problems.


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: trapper les] #5059307
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thanks for clearing that up.


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Re: big trap rant! [Re: board stretcher] #5059315
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The one thing good about the stanard pan,as opposed to "enlarged" is that the animal steps closer to the center of the trap,sometimes burying its foot deeply,instead of barely getting caught sometimes by a few toes because it triggered the trap at the edge of an enlarged pan right near the jaw.I'me not trapping cats,though,I'me after fox and coyote.I make them step the center if I can.


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this is true!


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There are a great many trappers,some of whom have posted on this thread,that have much more experience than I do foot trapping canines and cats.But,I've been taught to do things the way I do,and as little experience as I have,it's working.

Some time ago,there was a great thread all about 'western cat sets that dont work" or some such thing,maybe on the strictly trapping forum,and it showcased exposed cat sets of all makes and kinds and I could see the enlarged pan shining on these sets,and those traps wouldnt have to be 'big" for this to work.


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