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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5046428
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Awesome find! I dream of those kinds of finds. What was the price? I noticed most antique stores price junk traps way too high and rare traps way too low!


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5046886
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Hey Bruce1, that's some great info! I'm in Cortland right now, I'll have to take a tour before I head back north. Thanks! Thanks also to gregs250 for posting the photo, now tell us how much you paid!

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5048418
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There is a DJ #0 on ebay right now. Anyone know what the value would be? I can't find it in the price guide.


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5048518
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Thanks for all the comments. I was very lucky. As a newbie collector is was more than I was used to paying but a lot less than what Parr has it listed.

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5051625
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That " #0 DJ Cortland " on eBay right now is a #1. Cortland #0 Traps are single jaw no teeth. Diggdug the reason its not in the price guide is it doesn't exist.

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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5052328
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So, if we haven't seen one it doesn't exist? Please explain. It is listed in the up to date price guides that I have.


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5052828
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A #0 Cortland Double Jaw Trap with teeth? If you are referring to "The Trap Collectors Guide" By Parr and Andreski ( The most up to date price guide I'm aware of) it is not listed in there. I have never seen or heard of one. If one exists let's see it.

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5052841
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In 1889 Hitchcock Mfg. Co. of Cortland, NY (Makers of Cortland Traps) published a booklet called "Hints On Trapping" In there they list among their traps for sale a #0 Single Jaw. They DO NOT list a #0 Double Jaw Trap. Proof enough for me.

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Marten1] #5053446
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I consider Roger, Marten1 the expert on Cortland Traps, I have visited with him and he is very interested and quite knowledgeable in them.
Thanks for the info Roger again I learned something that I will try and file away. As we all know people piece traps together and try and pass them off for big $$$ and knowledge is priceless.
Thanks.
Mike

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5053687
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I, on the other hand am not an expert. Just a retired guy with a curiosity about many things. I am just curious enough to not put a lot of faith in an omission in a single pamphlet. Just out of curiosity I will keep on asking questions. At this point I believe they did exist in very small numbers. Wouldn't the 2 1/2" inside jawspread be a zero? Wouldn't it be very difficult or impossible to mix and match parts with a size one? If they did exist, Norwich, N.Y. seems like a probable place for one to surface since it is near Cortland.


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5054009
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A new collector learns by listening to the advanced collectors that have researched what they specifically collect, amassed large collections from that particular manufacture, have seen literally hundreds of traps from that particular manufacture, and know what they are talking about. The #0 Cortland does exist, but only in a single jaw.


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5064794
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Nhousecattrapper, I took your advise and with help, found four advanced collectors who have owned a Cortland #0 double jaw with teeth. These men are in their mid 70's and older. They are old enough to not care about getting into a controversy, but they know what they had. One man did say that they were very scarce 50 years ago, and were being locked away in collections then. One collector said that he had seen 5 or 6 of them when he was a very young man. I guess we might as well say that they do not exist for the modern collector.


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5064921
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For what it's worth. here is my opinion again. First I would like to know the names of those collectors, and better yet, see pictures of their " #0 Double Jaw Cortlands ". There seems to be a lot of confusion with some collectors who mistake the #1 Cortland Double Jaw for a #0. Cortland Traps in general are small for their designated size. And remember, a #1 Double Jaw jawspread is measured by the OUTSIDE Jaw, not the INSIDE Jaw. Also I have seen examples of #1 1/2 Cortlands with #1 pans. They came that way from the factory. But they are STILL 1 1/2's. It is entirely possible a few #1 Double Jaw Traps may have left the factory with #0 pans (I have not seen one yet) .But they would still be #1's. So in conclusion, in my humble opinion, the only TRUE #0 Cortland Traps that ever left the factory were SINGLE Jaw Traps.

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5068073
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Very interesting! I hope you find one some day and prove yourself wrong. It should be worth a small fortune! laugh


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Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: trappertom52] #5068268
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Originally Posted By: trappertom52
Very interesting! I hope you find one some day and prove yourself wrong. It should be worth a small fortune! laugh

This just goes to show you Roger that you can't educate those that refuse to learn!

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Gregs250] #5456884
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In 1889 Cortland Catolog # 3 Cortlands were $14.00 per Dozen, used for Otter Trapping, double Longsprings.6 1/2 " jaw spread.I have never seen an Original.
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If one is ever found it may look something like this Replica

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Bruce1] #5457471
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Cortland Factory was known to put wrong size pans on their smaller traps.For example your on the assembly line in 1889 working on Friday afternoon and your job is to put pans on 1 1/2 traps,your pan box is empty but the guy next to you has a whole box of # 1 pans and they will fit right on your trap.There is how it happens.The worker says no one will care, they will never be collectible in a hundred years.Yeah right !Bruce

Re: Cortland Traps (pics added) [Re: Ol' Smoke] #5830858
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Looks correct. I have some with chains (and wedge) like this.

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