Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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The #2's work fine but a little hard on the feet. Were these traps modified? Laminated and swiveled well. Im talk 1/4 or 3/16 lam.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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04/27/15 03:28 PM
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Yes same as the Duke 3's . No problem getting pan tension set..just file on the dog.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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The 3s look like the same shape/size as my dukes 3s.Why are the 2s hard on their feet?No problems with getting pan tension set?? Your dukes look like victors you mean. These traps are just dog less victors. The 3s and 4s are the same and the #2 montys are dogless 1.75 victors . I havent used screen yet will try some this year. I think pan tension is way over rated so I can't answer that. I just set them. Some out of the box, some waxed, some dyed. Feet are bottomed out on the pan most of the time
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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The 3s look like the same shape/size as my dukes 3s.Why are the 2s hard on their feet?No problems with getting pan tension set?? Your dukes look like victors you mean. These traps are just dog less victors. The 3s and 4s are the same and the #2 montys are dogless 1.75 victors . I havent used screen yet will try some this year. I think pan tension is way over rated so I can't answer that. I just set them. Some out of the box, some waxed, some dyed. Feet are bottomed out on the pan most of the time I was thinking the same thing. Only thing that's confuses me is the JCC baseplates for the #3 Monty are different than those for a #3 Victor.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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I've used the #3 Vic FOJ (with lams) as a trap for either/or fox-yote set. No problems on the feet- Which was why i suggested the #3 (FOJ)
They are COYOTES! Not "coy-wolf" not "coyote-wolf hybrid". Just plain old coyote
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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04/29/15 09:25 PM
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They use the same pan on the #2,3 and 4. When I did my #2's I trimmed it down some looks like Doug did to.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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05/01/15 03:22 PM
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The 4s I've used held wolves here. I use screen covers on all mine works great 3s and4s just make sure to file to get enough tension , so it will not fire making set.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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02/28/18 08:19 PM
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I believe Red puts 3 triangle file strokes on upper side of “dog slope” right where it turns and goes vertical....that’s what he told me anyways and I did to some of mine. I was surprised how little it takes
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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02/28/18 08:34 PM
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Nycoyote, Btomlin gotter right. It takes very little for 3 lbs you will find the stiffer the screen more tension needed. just give it a stroke at a time until you get what you want that's how we all done it. We all do it a bit different on traps hope it works well for ya .
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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02/28/18 09:23 PM
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I like to file a nite latch into mine. I will say they are some fast little traps. The only problem I have with them is I don't own enough of them! They keep the most consistent pan tension of all the dogless traps I own. majority of mine are 2.5 -3 lbs .I want to be abel to catch any foxes that work my sets lol and stinkers
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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02/28/18 09:40 PM
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Here you go best I got This picture is of a Bridger 3dog on trap I converted to a dogless
Last edited by red mt; 02/28/18 09:41 PM.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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02/28/18 09:41 PM
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That helps... Thank you guys
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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I got some #2s in a trade and some of them won't set. Even with the pan all the way down the jaw won't clear. Looks like I'm going to have to file quite a bit off. I was planning on bending the jaw tips up and this has a tendency to suck the jaws in slightly so this will only compound the issue. Has anyone else had this problem? It sounds like the pan assembly needs to be loosened up where it attached to the frame so it can slide forward a tad or the frame bent up where the pan assembly attaches to move the dog toward the center of the trap. I'm new at the dogless also so I could be completely wrong btw. I wouldn't do anything until Red Mt. posts though.......
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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Take cross member to the trap bend towards you that was a oops Moment lol Pair of big channel lock pliers.or a trap adjuster if you have one not big deal really
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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03/03/18 07:20 PM
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I got some #2s in a trade and some of them won't set. Even with the pan all the way down the jaw won't clear. Looks like I'm going to have to file quite a bit off. I was planning on bending the jaw tips up and this has a tendency to suck the jaws in slightly so this will only compound the issue. Has anyone else had this problem? Sounds like the problem I recently had with some 3s. I fixed it by bending the pan up a little. Now it will drop farther and let the dog clear the jaw while setting. You just have to tweak it up/down until you get both jaw clearance to set and a level pan after it's set.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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03/04/18 11:41 PM
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I just bought a dozen #3's a few days ago. I've ben filing the dog shorter to make sure the jaw clears. Old Monty's from the 70's-80's didn't have that issue. But these will work well when ready to go. No need to file to get the jaw to clear all got to do is pull cross member to the trap a bit vice works well easy push away to get jaws closer to the dog
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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03/06/18 12:44 PM
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Well after reading this post I ordered a couple of #2's to mess around with. J
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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I got my num 2's today overall I like the trap very consistent pan pressure both are breaking right 2.5 lbs, really strong springs and the jaw face has no sharp edges.
Mine don't lay as flat as Doug66's I think I need to open up the eye some on the pan hinge point so I can bend the cross member back to get it to lay a little flatter. I will base plate them and upgrade the chain later on. I did cut off some of the pan length J
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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They are mainly the only traps I use, besides for the couple MB 550’s I have. Until I find something better, I am sticking with the Monty dogless.
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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06/17/21 08:50 PM
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So I got my first Montgomery style dogless traps today. They are actually from wolf creek. I’m messing around with the dogless trigger setup. Is it possible to night latch them? There isn’t a lot of travel, but more than I’ve had with the bridgers and some other factory nightlatched traps I’ve used in the past!
Pretty happy with them other than that! . This how I night latch my Victor Montgomery’s https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...ontgomery-3-dogless-original#Post6441072
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Re: Montgomery dogless traps
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06/19/21 10:42 AM
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Couple strokes with a file is all it takes.
Kenneth schoening
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