Re: tips on getting started
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What state are you in? Should have that in Your location. I would get a few more years of trapping Under your belt first, And read read read.
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Re: tips on getting started
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What state are you in? Should have that in Your location. I would get a few more years of trapping Under your belt first, And read read read. Im in Ga. I had a pretty good season and wanted to try to do this for friends until I can drive. I have read lots about ADC trapping and have learned a good bit on here.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Go back in the archives and read about the live trap. Just stay away from the cheap ones. I think most everyone only uses traps from 4 different Co. once they get started. Always remember you get what you pay for. Instead of buying two junk traps when starting by one good one because it will last. JMO. Read,Read,Read.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Go back in the archives and read about the live trap. Just stay away from the cheap ones. I think most everyone only uses traps from 4 different Co. once they get started. Always remember you get what you pay for. Instead of buying two junk traps when starting by one good one because it will last. JMO. Read,Read,Read. Ive read through the archives a couple times but I will keep reading. Im thinking about getting repeating cage traps first because I have 1 small cage trap 1 big cage trap and 1 fox size cage trap.
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Re: tips on getting started
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I would be slow to buy things. Buy as you go and save the money until you need something. Youd be surprised how much stuff you think you "need" sits in the corner. Maybe, if you feel you should, or so you can practice more, buy another trap. I would get another coon size trap, that way you can use it for coon or skunk.
A big question is, do you want to be a TRAPPER or a WILDLIFE CONTROL OPERATOR, there is, as most of us learned by doing, a big difference. That difference will dictate what you buy. Ok I will wait to buy traps I will need 1 or 2 smaller traps though. Skunks are very rare here so I won't need to worry about skunks.
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Re: tips on getting started
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I like it when the young guys get interested. You have the right idea about starting trapping for friends but add family and neighbors in that as well. Get as much experience as you can. My recommendation would be to buy traps one at a time from a company like http://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/ That way you will be getting equipment that will work and last. Safeguard and Tomahawk would be my suggestion. Since you like chipmunks, start there. Add squirrel traps as you can afford them. Add one or two raccoon sized cages when you can afford them and you will be good to go. Try to keep your traps in use. Even if you are not getting paid the traps that are in the field and set will provide an education that can't be had any other way. Don't let yourself get over worked or overwhelmed. Set your schedule to your interest level and enjoy the experience.
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Re: tips on getting started
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I like it when the young guys get interested. You have the right idea about starting trapping for friends but add family and neighbors in that as well. Get as much experience as you can. My recommendation would be to buy traps one at a time from a company like http://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/ That way you will be getting equipment that will work and last. Safeguard and Tomahawk would be my suggestion. Since you like chipmunks, start there. Add squirrel traps as you can afford them. Add one or two raccoon sized cages when you can afford them and you will be good to go. Try to keep your traps in use. Even if you are not getting paid the traps that are in the field and set will provide an education that can't be had any other way. Don't let yourself get over worked or overwhelmed. Set you schedule to your interest level and enjoy the experience. I will ask our neighbor because i saw a groundhog go into a hole in his yard a week ago. I would do it for family but they are in NH and Arizona. I will buy 1 or 2 traps after I get money from my first job. Thanks for the help everyone!
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Re: tips on getting started
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Are u having anyone help like a parent or doing,it,on your own I have a friend that doesn't know a lot about trapping but likes to hunt and fish he catches squirrels and coons in live traps in his yard and I told ill pay him if he helps me and gets me a job from a neighbor of his. My parents are supporting me but my dad doesn't really know how to trap and my mom doesn't hunt or anything. I have got lots of good advice from an experienced ADC trapper I think he's on here by the name of "barehunter".
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Re: tips on getting started
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Just make sure you keep an adult like your in the loop on all jobs. Someone who can look for trouble and make sure you are being safe and that the jobs are safe.
Although I dont really like the "Per animal" method, you should do per animal due to experience, there is less pressure to perform, no one can be outraged by the price. ok I will do that. I'm only going to trap for people my family knows so making sure there isn't trouble isn't much of a problem.
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Re: tips on getting started
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I know, I know, I said dont buy gear until you need it. BUT
I recommend finding out if you have gophers or moles in your area. A couple reasons, they easy to trap, but not everyone knows how or will try. A lot of people will buy a coon trap throw some tuna in it and get a coon, not everyone feels comfortable prodding and finding underground tunnels. Second, its safer. No handling live animals, no roofs, no crawlspaces, just grass. It may not seem as glamorous as big coons, but its pretty good. Also, you want to trap for family and friends, That might be a dozen houses or so. You are really just hoping one out of them has an actual problem. Presence of animals like skunks, squirrels and coon is not a problem, but presence of moles and gophers is.
I have only trapped a few, but i like in the tunnel traps a lot more than any other. You will hear his name anytime people talk moles, Steve Albano makes great gopher and mole traps. traplineproducts.com. If for some reason you wanted to go with something else, Nomol mole traps are a little cheaper, and you can find Macabee gopher traps in most stores. In my opinion moles are great to start with.
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Re: tips on getting started
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I know, I know, I said dont buy gear until you need it. BUT
I recommend finding out if you have gophers or moles in your area. A couple reasons, they easy to trap, but not everyone knows how or will try. A lot of people will buy a coon trap throw some tuna in it and get a coon, not everyone feels comfortable prodding and finding underground tunnels. Second, its safer. No handling live animals, no roofs, no crawlspaces, just grass. It may not seem as glamorous as big coons, but its pretty good. Also, you want to trap for family and friends, That might be a dozen houses or so. You are really just hoping one out of them has an actual problem. Presence of animals like skunks, squirrels and coon is not a problem, but presence of moles and gophers is.
I have only trapped a few, but i like in the tunnel traps a lot more than any other. You will hear his name anytime people talk moles, Steve Albano makes great gopher and mole traps. traplineproducts.com. If for some reason you wanted to go with something else, Nomol mole traps are a little cheaper, and you can find Macabee gopher traps in most stores. In my opinion moles are great to start with. Ok I will buy a few of those. It will be more then 12 people that I will tell because my mom was going to post it on Facebook so 25-35 people will know. I probably won't go on a roof if its steep to something like that but I will climb a not so steep roof because I have climbed on quite a few roofs before.
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Re: tips on getting started
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First thing I would do is be very aware of your state wildlife laws as in what you can and can't do as a wo, make a list of questions you are unsure of and note them, ask the instructor who is giving the exam, they should be able to give you the answer on the spot. Although the internet has a lot of truth it's a double edged sword as well, nothing worse than gearing up for something and ready to execute, then run into legal problems. Wouldn't be a bad idea on seeking out a well known trapper with a good reputation who will be willing to mentor you as needed, help is always needed no one has all the answers and if they tell you they do their lying, I call them type of people "google posters". For a trap I'd recommend safeguard I find no problems with them at all, personally I like using single door rear release stock no mods and have no issues with multiple catches or coons unlatching the rear door like some people claim, and if it did ever happen it's nothing that a piece of wire couldn't fix, but it's preference. If you have the money to spend on 175 to 200 dollar cage traps a whack just starting out god bless ya. Famous quote "I'm not an expert but" It's a good idea to become well rounded in the whole "trade" but being efficient at them will greatly benefit you a lot more. This site is filled with good information and some good people. If you're planning on doing beaver work with hancock and Bailey traps be careful on buying used, some people swap out the springs for an inferior spring. I wish you success in your project.
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Re: tips on getting started
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First thing I would do is be very aware of your state wildlife laws as in what you can and can't do as a wo, make a list of questions you are unsure of and note them, ask the instructor who is giving the exam, they should be able to give you the answer on the spot. Although the internet has a lot of truth it's a double edged sword as well, nothing worse than gearing up for something and ready to execute, then run into legal problems. Wouldn't be a bad idea on seeking out a well known trapper with a good reputation who will be willing to mentor you as needed, help is always needed no one has all the answers and if they tell you they do their lying, I call them type of people "google posters". For a trap I'd recommend safeguard I find no problems with them at all, personally I like using single door rear release stock no mods and have no issues with multiple catches or coons unlatching the rear door like some people claim, and if it did ever happen it's nothing that a piece of wire couldn't fix, but it's preference. If you have the money to spend on 175 to 200 dollar cage traps a whack just starting out god bless ya. Famous quote "I'm not an expert but" It's a good idea to become well rounded in the whole "trade" but being efficient at them will greatly benefit you a lot more. This site is filled with good information and some good people. If you're planning on doing beaver work with hancock and Bailey traps be careful on buying used, some people swap out the springs for an inferior spring. I wish you success in your project. I will start to take notes as I think of a question to ask when I take my exam. I have an experienced ADC trapper telling me some things I need to make sure I do and don't do. I probably won't try to cage trap beavers unless I get the money to buy those traps.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Yeah, the price for one is insane considering you can pick up a dozen of 330's for the price of one bailey. I'm not sure of your state laws but in mass most of the beaver work is done with permits using 330's the pro to a Bailey trap is, in some towns you aren't always able to obtain a permit for a 330 so live catch is needed. Most guys won't bother, that means there's room for you to make a little more money for whatever the reason. Just be sure you wear ya helmet when you first start using them, if ever. I have 4 330s and their legal here so If I do have someone say they have a beaver problem ill trap but for now all I have is a friend that will pay me $25 a beaver if I set them but they will check them for me and keep the beaver frozen until I can come and get it.
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Re: tips on getting started
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It is when the works not there, I'd let the job dictate when to buy traps unless you get an abundance of calls and absolutely need them, then I would buy. No sense in spending money when your not making any, figure your traps into your jobs, accumulating traps will come in time. You can have two dozen traps if you don't have the calls to put them on, it's wasted money. True, but that sonly 2 sets to make and now I have a few friends that I told will get thirty percent if they get a customer for me. So I will have jobs to do but I won't buy a few dozen traps just 1 dozen then wait until I get started.
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Re: tips on getting started
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I would stick mostly with ground dwelling animals to start. Squirrels and raccoons require a lot of ladder work as a NWCO. Being you are from Georgia I believe you have Armadillos? If you can master those guys you will do well. Groundhogs are another animal that can be tough to master. Great to see someone your age with some drive, not just sitting around texting:) Check your laws also unfortunately uncle Sam frowns on anyone under 18 with a work ethic. You may have to be 18 to work for money legally. Sticking with friends and family should not be a problem, but unfortunately you never know who you can trust. If ever giving the chance get a summer job with someone in the construction industry (framer, Roofer) Knowledge of building construction is a must as a NWCO. I started part time and put 100% of my NWCO income back into the business prior to becoming a full time operator. If you have an MP 3 player download and listen to all the wildlife pro pod casts it is a well of knowledge. so even though I have a license I might not be able to trap for Money besides family and friends?
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Re: tips on getting started
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I wouldn't worry about it Cole. If you get stopped from working, you'll probably make the headlines in your local paper and have so
much business that you'll have to hire help. lol ok thanks. Is the ADC magazine going to get here next month?
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Re: tips on getting started
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Since you aren't an adult you can't enter into a legally binding contract which means you cant go out and get insurance. That hasn't stopped millions of kids from going out and becoming entrepreneurs and it shouldn't stop you either. It may stop some people from hiring you and it should probably stop you from taking some jobs.
I would just caution you to be careful. You would be doing your customers a disservice if you got hurt on their property.
Trap from the ground, don't even own a ladder until you can get insured. Just had an employee fall off a ladder couple of months ago. $55k in medical and six weeks off. I was insured and life goes on. You aren't able to have that protection.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Since you aren't an adult you can't enter into a legally binding contract which means you cant go out and get insurance. That hasn't stopped millions of kids from going out and becoming entrepreneurs and it shouldn't stop you either. It may stop some people from hiring you and it should probably stop you from taking some jobs.
I would just caution you to be careful. You would be doing your customers a disservice if you got hurt on their property.
Trap from the ground, don't even own a ladder until you can get insured. Just had an employee fall off a ladder couple of months ago. $55k in medical and six weeks off. I was insured and life goes on. You aren't able to have that protection. I won't use ladders I told my dad I probably won't do ladders and he said " heck no you won't do ladders yet" lol but theres groundhogs moles chipmunks raccoons and possums in peoples trash squirrels that I can trap on the ground so I won't be at loss of jobs. Theres a big neighborhood across the street from my house so once I get experienced I will ask around there for jobs.
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Re: tips on getting started
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My advice, is to buy the best tools and traps you can afford. That way you only gotta buy them once and they'll repay you in the long run.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Traps are of course the first line of defense, all important, not to be skimped on, but not a stand alone by any means. What is needed is a system, a plan of attack for skunks, squirrels, chucks, coon, armadillos etc. which means the type of traps required will be reflective of techniques employed. In a nutshell, baitless trapping with humane safe traps able to take animals coming and going, like body grippers in fur trapping, are at the heart of a successful ADC program.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Me, personally, I wouldn't go near no-moles.I've tried 'em, but they're not for me. I'm in the business to set traps as quick as possible to catch as many moles as possible.
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Re: tips on getting started
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Paul, I guess we could meet you, that is if you didn't keep dodging us at conventions. LOL Judy is getting a complex. Maybe we won't tip our hand if we're going to a convention, just sneak up on you.
For years I wrote articles and promoted what I believed to be the best equipment, always after using it myself so that what I put my name on was from my own experience, not hearsay or speculation. I never had any arrangements or wrote anything for compensation like Paul, but was more than happy with the satisfaction in knowing I had shared beneficial information about gear that would help others to succeed on their traplines. It was a no lose for the manufacturer as well as the readers who tried out his traps and were happy they did. The same happened with other products, like Lefler 330 frames, Victor 280's, KB stabilizers, Northwoods 1 3/4 etc.
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