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Woodpeckers #4840515
01/06/15 10:06 AM
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Coondog6 Offline OP
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Hello,

Have potential client that is getting a federal permit to terminate two woodpeckers. What is a good woodpecker trap?

Can't shoot them in Mass.

Thanks

Chuck


The measure of a man is what he will do when he knows he won't get caught.

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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4840635
01/06/15 11:15 AM
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It is called the old Victor wooden rat trap. I prefer the old style but that's just me. The new ones with the big yellow pan work just

fine. Fill the V-notch with woodpecker suet, drill a small hole through the trap and screw it where ever the woodpeckers are pecking.

I prefer the pan on the bottom but I'm sure they'll probably work any way you attach them.

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4840675
01/06/15 11:42 AM
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Make sure YOU have the paperwork in YOUR hand before starting.


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4843712
01/07/15 09:20 PM
01/07/15 09:20 PM
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What kind of turn around time are you all seeing on permits?
Got a vacant, most of the time, log home that is getting trashed right now.



Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4843841
01/07/15 10:02 PM
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My potential client I first spoke to her 11/16/14. I explained to her then that woodpeckers were federally protected and in order to terminate them you needed a permit.

She called me back on 1.5.15 and told me that they were expediting her permit and she would have it by 1.12.15.

We will see if she gets it then.


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4843943
01/07/15 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
It is called the old Victor wooden rat trap. I prefer the old style but that's just me. The new ones with the big yellow pan work just

fine. Fill the V-notch with woodpecker suet, drill a small hole through the trap and screw it where ever the woodpeckers are pecking.

I prefer the pan on the bottom but I'm sure they'll probably work any way you attach them.


I like this, I just turned down a woodpecker job, they wouldnt have liked my prices anyway. I will have to talk to Fish and Wildlife about permits

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4844747
01/08/15 11:38 AM
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Let the customer get the permits. We used to get them ourselves but it's so much easier to let the client do it. I don't know about

the rest of the country but we have no shortage of woodpeckers and none that I know of that are threatened or endangered. Once they

have your permit money, the government leaves you pretty much alone. I am sure that they approve of hiring a professional as opposed

to taking your shotgun and blowing your rain gutter in two, at 5 o'clock in the morning, in the middle of a subdivision.

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4846138
01/08/15 10:39 PM
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Paul. I'm curious why you prefer having the customer get the permit?



Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4846265
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I think it would be more credible to the fed's if the customers applies for the permit. Time is money and filling out paperwork that may not be approved will be a bill that would be hard to collect. JMO MTCAT, sorry but had to jump in on this one. Been there.


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4846464
01/09/15 12:48 AM
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What Everet said and also you know that if the customer takes the time and money to get a permit, they usually have a more serious

problem and will be happy to pay you to get rid of it.

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4846974
01/09/15 11:40 AM
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I fill the permit out on behalf of the customer, except their SS#, its all part of a package deal that includes:
1) Initial deterrent strategy (if applicable), most home owners have already attempted deterrents on their own prior to calling...
2) Permitting process, I've never been turned down on a permit
3) removal of birds
4) final repairs

Taking the permit application process in to my control allows me to ensure it is done correctly and I don't miss out on a large repair job because they couldn't fill it out properly. Its like insurance to ensure I don't miss out on the sale.

JMO

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4847419
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When i am on grey squirrel work, i catch a lot of greater spotted woodpeckers in the cage traps, obviously i release them.

Brian


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4848854
01/10/15 09:47 AM
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I spoke with the Mass. Director of PAC's. He was very surprised that my potential client was going to receive a federal permit for her woodpecker problem.

Chuck


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4848979
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Im just as surprised as Mike...they are tough to come by...


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4850048
01/10/15 09:21 PM
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And if your getting a permit to terminate...why can't you shoot them ?

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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4850172
01/10/15 10:11 PM
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I have NEVER been turned down on a permit...

Joe... maybe its in the city...

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4850336
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Maybe Chris...In Mass. you can shoot a pellet gun in someones yard, as long as you don't shoot over a road or Rairoad tracks.. In Mass. they will give you a permit, most of the time though the birds are long gone by the time you get it ! Oh...and a Mass. hunting license..

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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4850347
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And where the permits come from is 10 minutes from my house...


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Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4850709
01/11/15 09:22 AM
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I would say pellet guns are illegal in 99% of the locations we typically service. Ive never tried to shoot one before... but I would think trapping would be less time consuming? How long does it typically take to successfuly shoot one?

Re: Woodpeckers [Re: Coondog6] #4851619
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Don't ask me..i never have ever tried to terminate a woodpecker ..except for being a teenager walking around the woods! Im just saying, the use of pellet guns is available if we don't shoot over a road or railroad tracks


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