Re: Advice needed please
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12/30/14 05:03 PM
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Did you every sign a non compete form? I would talk to a lawyer just to be on the safe side.
Mark M. Bethell Wildlife Control
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Re: Advice needed please
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12/30/14 06:47 PM
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Working for someone else and having your own business is a big step. I wish you well! Glad to see more small business get going.
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: Advice needed please
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12/31/14 07:06 PM
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How about your wife starting and owning the business and you are her employee. Your former boss is just blowing smoke IMO. In some area's there are groups of business people that will help you set up a business. Free advice. They will help you with a business plan etc. Tap every resource that is out there. Good luck, keep at it!
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: Advice needed please
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Eric Arnold
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Since you've already got an appointment with a legal counsel, I'd say wait until you speak with them. This is something we're dealing with ourselves right now and there are a lot of ins and outs with it.
Generally speaking, the first item to find out when looking at non-competes is if your state recognizes them. Some states recognize them in great detail, some states recognize them but require more of an open interpretation, while other states won't even acknowledge them.
Second, the non-compete must be realistic with it's restrictions. Trying to claim an entire state as an exempt area is generally not realistic unless the company is the only one in existence and/or offering services that duplicating would be considered as a theft of intellectual property or something along these lines.
Third, make sure the non-compete you have is signed and dated by both parties. A contract requires two signatures so if only one is present, it is much harder to defend in a legal battle and may not be valid. Additionally, you want to keep records of anything you were promised that did not happen such as benefits, raises, time-off, etc.
Fourth, if you decide to do something, do it above board so that their can be no hint of you're trying to pull one over on them. Having a friend or family member create a company then hire you makes it look like you're trying to skirt the agreement, don't do it. Instead, look at creating a company that focuses on a specific service the other company doesn't offer or does very limited work in.
In most cases, in states that recognize non-competes it would be acceptable that the ex employee not open their own business or work for another business within a reasonable distance of the employer's business (generally 1 - 2 hours), take the employer's client list, contact or market services to the employer's clients, or work for an individual or business performing like services that is a client of the employer, or use equipment or skills that can be considered proprietary or intellectual property of the employer's business. Additionally, there is a "realistic" time frame involved that can range from 6 months to 5 years (with 2 years being the average) that once met ends the non-compete agreement.
Eric Arnold Publishing Editor W.C.T. Magazine Editor The Fur Taker Magazine
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Re: Advice needed please
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01/03/15 06:41 PM
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I am having a hard time finding what I am looking for on the TWRA website. If anyone wants to PM me please feel free. I am a respectful man and do not want to post his dirty laundry on a public forum. Thanks again to everyone! Happy New Year....And may this be your best year yet! Not sure the question you ask has anything to do with Wildlife. More into contract law in general.
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Re: Advice needed please
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Patriot, you can't use the business logo "Sorry It Did Not Work." Our employees already use that slogan regularly.
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Re: Advice needed please
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Thanks Warrior. I have been using my google fu for the last three days. I have found a lot of information. I have a appointment set up to meet with a business lawyer next week to review the non compete. Fingers crossed! I received another letter from my former boss today bragging about how he caused another former employee to go bankrupt for trying to start his own business. Reminding me yet again of the outcome I would face. I am not even going to touch a trap until I know I am free and clear! Whistling past the graveyard. Make sure you keep all those letters in a safe place. Good luck and keep us informed.
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Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Advice needed please
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Maybe a Davy Crockett coon skin hat and Paul that was very witty.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Advice needed please
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In a lot of cases your truck is your number one advertising agent. I seen a truck this year that had 100% of the truck covered with wildlife and his name of his business. I am going to kick my truck up this year. I just finished my yearly report and my numbers are down. When driving around just look at the service truck and what they are showing and telling you. JMO
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Re: Advice needed please
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Paul Winkelmann
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Everet, I'm usually the one who doesn't like advertising on a truck, van, car, or bicycle. If people are happy, that's all that
matters. We had our finest year ever this year and with the exception of our oldest vehicle, we have no advertising at all. I don't
expect that what works for us will work for everyone else. I actually like trucks that are covered with wildlife, but our customers
don't.
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Re: Advice needed please
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Paul: How many years have you been in business and also what is the ratio of new calls to repeat calls. Patriot trapper is new to the business. I have a very small service area. But again this is not what I do for a living. I am retired. Mole are my bread and butter. I tell people they have a healthy lawn when you have mole and it makes them feel better. Have your customers told you they did not like your advertising on your trucks?
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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