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stamping on hawley norton springs #4776655
12/03/14 09:28 PM
12/03/14 09:28 PM
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saskatchewan/canada
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I was lucky enough to get a buy on a nice little hawley small cast pan with an arched OC spring stamp. Trap looks all original. This year I bought a #4 american made hawley with arched kenwood stamps. Anyone else find any hawleys with stamped springs?

Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4776673
12/03/14 09:34 PM
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Mike: I cannot remember ever seeing either of the spring stamps you describe on a Hawley trap although I have seen traps with Kenwood pans. I have a #1 1/2 Hawley that has a Community marked pan(no Oneida)that I have also not seen before(to my recollection). The trap with the Kenwood stamp should be especially valuable.

Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4777556
12/04/14 10:26 AM
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None of my H&N had stamped springs. Congrats on a cool trap.


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Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4780488
12/05/14 08:33 PM
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LOTS OF MINK, I've never seen an original Hawley with stamped springs. Got to the point that I don't even look close anymore. But that's going to change after reading your post. Thanks again for some good info!

Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4780536
12/05/14 08:49 PM
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Did it have the kenwood swivel on the chain where it attached to the trap?

Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4780669
12/05/14 10:00 PM
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Mike, I believe in never say never with the old Newhouse traps. Here is a photo of a Hawley 0 with Very Best stamped on the spring. Greg


Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4780709
12/05/14 10:18 PM
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Mike, Nice find, any arched "Oneida Community" or "Kenwood, NY" stamped springs are hard to find. For those that don't know, the arched "Oneida Community" is the Canadian version of the arched "Kenwood. N.Y." stamp. Oneida Community hade a trap factory in Canada as well as the U.S. Hawley & Norton springs are not marked. If you find a spring stamp whether it is arched or strait lined, it is a Newhouse spring. In fact that is what the first line of the stamp says: "S. Newhouse". The hole idea of the Hawley & Norton trap brand was to make a quality trap that was less expensive. Newhouse springs are better springs and there for more expensive to produce. Oneida Community made both Newhouse and Hawley & Norton traps and they could not afford to put Newhouse springs on a trap and sell it for less money. That said, I do believe that when the need arose, they would use Newhouse springs to fill an order if they did not have the springs they needed but I do not think that this was a common practice. Us trappers modify traps all the time, if the spring broke or got week they would not through the trap out, they changed the spring. Either way your trap is a great find. As for Hawley & Norton pan stamps, the first model just had "N.Y." at the bottom of the pan. The second pan had I believe "Community, N.Y.". The third pan "Oneida, N.Y.". The forth "Kenwood, N.Y." Fifth pan "Oneida Community, N.Y.". All of these cast pans, then they went to riveted sheet metal pans marked "Oneida Community. N.Y." and then "Animal Trap Company". That is for the U.S. made Hawley & Norton traps. There are other versions, latter ones with patent dates.

Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4781518
12/06/14 01:31 PM
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Hi Greg, Nice, very rare spring. What is your opinion of that spring? It is stamped "Animal Trap Comp., Abingdon, Ill.", they did not make Hawley & Norton traps. But Oneida did buy them out and I think these traps were put together at Oneida using parts that they got in the purchase. The Animal Trap Comp. that did make Hawley & Norton traps was after 1925 when Oneida Community sold out the trap business and the Animal Trap Comp., Lititz, PA name was used for the takeover. Great trap, Dean

Re: stamping on hawley norton springs [Re: lots of mink] #4781607
12/06/14 02:41 PM
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The #1 has the canadian kenwood swivel and from what Ive seen there is a size difference in the US and Canadian made kenwood swivels.

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